What is the benefit of doing pledges?

SilverBride

Every day I see players saying they need to do their pledges and looking for others to do these with, but I always wondered why. What is the benefit of doing pledges? I assume it's an Undaunted thing, but I don't understand what's so great about them.

SpacemanSpiff1

undaunted keys, dungeon gear, boss helms, transmute stones, whatever other reason

jaws343

You get keys which can be used to buy Monster set shoulder pieces, as well as dungeon themed style pages. Also a small amount of transmutes.

Personally, now that I have all of the shoulder pieces outside of a few, I use the pledges as a nearly guaranteed way to queue for the dungeon to clear my dungeon set stickerbook pieces. Since it is likely that others will also be queuing for the same dungeons due to them being pledges.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

If you aren't subbed and have no DLC -> there is no purpose really.

Other than that, you get geodes for the transmutation station -> Useful.

spartaxoxo

Transmute crystals and keys that let you finish monster sets, because it's one of the only ways to unlock the shoulder pieces to them. Monster sets are powerful two piece equipment sets that are less necessary in the past but still popular. They give extra abilities or buffs themed around the dungeon they come from.

kwinter

Some actually enjoy running dungeons. DLC drop motif pages. Also some achievements will give titles , skins or personality’s

SilverBride

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

spartaxoxo

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

The Daedra summon is one monster set. But there's a lot more of them, and they aren't all flashy like that or summon things either. Some of them give straightforward passive buffs or are more subtle with their proc animations.

SpacemanSpiff1

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

okay

Ilsabet

I'm lazy about doing pledges, but these days I mostly use keys to get the shoulder outfit style pages from the applicable NPC's randoboxes.

FluffyReachWitch

Back when I was running pledges all the time, the appeal for me was transmute crystals, so I could get the most out of my gear. Didn't really have any other options for getting dungeon and overworld jewelry in Bloodthirsty, for example.

Keys, I would use less often because once I got a shoulder I actually needed I would stop spending them.

Aside from that, the Undaunted skill passives are useful to have in order to make your character tougher in both PvE and PvP, and pledges give decent experience toward them. I don't go into Cyrodiil without Undaunted Mettle 2/2.

CompM4s

Mostly keys, sometimes you get lucky and the random daily is also the pledge, so keys plus transmutes.

Ragnarok0130

For me keys for monster shoulders, transmutes, and monsters helms

thorwyn

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

There are many different monster sets, some of them are quite good, many are no more than medicore. Since monster sets are all 2 piece sets, they are the natural complement for your 2 5-piece sets. However, since the introduction of mythic items, the popularity of monster sets have gone down a bit. You usually don't want to lose one 5 piece bonus. So many people are running 1 mythic + 1 piece of a monster set (+magica, +crit, whatever)

Ragnarok0130

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

@SilverBride what kind of content do you run? Monster sets are part of most end game content builds from dungeons and trials to PVP. If you’re just roleplaying, decorating or overland questing you really don’t need them. You can also hide them via a costume, hide helm, or an outfit like i do since I normally don’t like the way they look.

The appeal is in their buffs and abilities not their look.

dmnqwk

Pledges = Stuff.

1. Keys
2. Monies
3. Transmute Crystals

Each pledge offers 1 key if you do the normal or veteran dungeon, and 2 if you do the hardmode in the veteran dungeon (hardmodes are often click scroll/banner to activate, but a few have a more complicated requirement). The keys will buy you monster set shoulders to pair with the helms that drop from the veteran dungeon bosses. 5 keys lets you buy a 1 in 6 chance to get the shoulders you want.

On top of this, you get monies from dismantling the drops, as well as a chance for style pages to drop in veteran dungeons (I did an rnd the other day, got Nazaray Style Page which I sold for 3.5m golds in under a day.)

Finally, when you want to make sets of gear, the best way is now to use your stickerbook. It costs 75 crystals to craft a piece from the stickerbook, with the cost reduced down to 25 depending on how much of the set you have. (this also applies to monster shoulders/helms). This lets you get best traits on them more easily.
Each pledge offers 1 transmute crystal for a normal run, 3 for a veteran run and 5 for a hardmode veteran run. It's always advisible if you're going to do a random that day to pick up the pledges, then do your random in case you get lucky and complete the pledge in it (fairly likely).

Sallymen

As a proud owner of over 2k keys, I can confirm that doing pledges are worth it.

SilverBride

It makes more sense knowing what benefits there are. I don't participate in any veteran content, although I do enjoy soloing normal dungeons and occasionally solo Dragonstar Arena to level my companions.

As far as monster sets, besides the unwanted effects from using them, I don't want to have to redo a lot of my armor to not lose my full 5 pieces sets because right now I am using the helm and/or shoulders to complete these sets.

I do use the Pale Order ring on 3 characters and Oakensoul on one.

Scaletho

Well, the number is transmute stones are ridiculous low. 3 in normal, 5 in Vet iirc.

You need a busload of pledges to get a decent amount of TS. Not worth it.

Ilsabet

SilverBride wrote: »

It makes more sense knowing what benefits there are. I don't participate in any veteran content, although I do enjoy soloing normal dungeons and occasionally solo Dragonstar Arena to level my companions.

You might consider keeping an eye on the pledge schedule and picking up pledges for the dungeons you're soloing. Since you're doing the dungeons anyway, might as well get the bonus key and Undaunted skill line credit in case you ever find a use for them.

SilverBride

Ilsabet wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

It makes more sense knowing what benefits there are. I don't participate in any veteran content, although I do enjoy soloing normal dungeons and occasionally solo Dragonstar Arena to level my companions.

You might consider keeping an eye on the pledge schedule and picking up pledges for the dungeons you're soloing. Since you're doing the dungeons anyway, might as well get the bonus key and Undaunted skill line credit in case you ever find a use for them.

Oh that's a good idea. Thanks.

etchedpixels

For transmutes group as a four, one of you bring a low level each time and cycle through all your toons - you can get 100 crystals easy. Pledges just aren't worth doing for that.

AcadianPaladin

@Ilsabet has the right of it for me. I love soloing WBs and non-DLC group dungeons. I can't solo all of them but have a good list of those I can. I pay full attention to Maj and Redbeard's pledge schedule generally do one solo pledge a day. Firstly it is fun and, unlike delves or public dungeons, I can revel in having the dungeon totally to myself and my companion. Secondly, I don't PvP or random dungeons so getting 1 transmute gem per day over the long haul works okay for me.

Dawnblade

etchedpixels wrote: »

For transmutes group as a four, one of you bring a low level each time and cycle through all your toons - you can get 100 crystals easy. Pledges just aren't worth doing for that.

The daily with a lowbie / non-ESO+ in the group is great for XP / xmutes. The pledges are only good for keys to play the 'what shoulder you have 100 of can I give you again' game.

morrowjen

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

Before mythics, monster sets were a necessity for a lot of builds. They would give a good boost to dps or other stats. Mythics as well as all the other recent changes have made monster sets less necessary because you can run a mythic and any number of gear combinations instead and often get better results.

The first monster helm I got I deconned because I thought it was ugly and had no idea how gear really worked in the game. Thankfully, we don't have to worry as much about a set's style because we can go to an outfit station and change that.

Pledges can be a lot of fun but unfortunately sticker books and mythics as well as other changes have devalued the activity. You get more value for your time by doing a random normal or running a random battlegrounds. I'd like to see ZOS add value back to doing pledges.

Ratzkifal

There are also outfit styles for monster sets available for keys. Some of those actually look pretty good, especially the shoulder pieces. You don't have any other way of accessing these style and being able to make use of them even when not wearing the monster set in question is a (fashion) game changer.

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jecks33

for me it's because I enjoy dungeons more than trials.

Brrrofski

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't see the appeal of monster sets either. I think this is what causes the huge in your face Daedra thing to appear when some players are in combat. No thanks.

You're losing out if you don't use them.

There's barely any builds out there that don't at least use 1 piece.

Not all of them spawn stuff. Plus using 1 piece of 2 different sets is stronger than getting a single bonus from using 2 pieces of a 3 or 5 piece set.

Keys can also be used to buy shoulder motifs for whatever one is available at the time. Can make you good money if you get one and hold on to it for a while.

Ragnarok0130

SilverBride wrote: »

It makes more sense knowing what benefits there are. I don't participate in any veteran content, although I do enjoy soloing normal dungeons and occasionally solo Dragonstar Arena to level my companions.

As far as monster sets, besides the unwanted effects from using them, I don't want to have to redo a lot of my armor to not lose my full 5 pieces sets because right now I am using the helm and/or shoulders to complete these sets.

I do use the Pale Order ring on 3 characters and Oakensoul on one.

@SilverBride you don't have to give up any 5 piece sets to run a monster set, now if you just don't want to spend transmutes to reconstruct that's a perfectly valid position but I do think the moster sets would help with a lot of content and really enhance any build.

For my raid healer set up I use 2 x 5 piece sets and a monster set one such setup would be SPC/Hollowfang/Symphony of Blades 2 piece set, or 2 x 5 piece sets, 1 piece of the monster set and a mythic depending on the build such as Rojo/Spaulder of ruin/with a monster helm. There's a lot of flexibility in set construction in ESO.

SilverBride

Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

@SilverBride you don't have to give up any 5 piece sets to run a monster set, now if you just don't want to spend transmutes to reconstruct that's a perfectly valid position but I do think the moster sets would help with a lot of content and really enhance any build.

If 2 of the pieces of a 5 piece set are the helm and shoulder and I replace them with a monster set, then I would have to find 2 different pieces to bring the set back up to 5 pieces. This means I have to figure out what I could replace without breaking my other 5 piece set. That's easier said than done.