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KingShocker
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So this is probably not a great time to bring this up, buuutttt.... when are we getting more morph options? I've been patiently waiting since beta.

Honestly, it was the peak hype of the game for me back in beta. I can still remember my first morph, it was strife, I morphed it to funnel to help heal my friends (believe it or not funnel health was good a long time ago).

I was like "wow skills that evolve as they are leveled this is so great, I can't wait to see what I can morph it into next" that was 8+ years ago. I mean it's not like I'm asking for spell crafting (another long-forgotten ZOS promise). It's just that I'm sooo tired of grinding for gear to get my theory crafting fix. I get it, grinding gear is how you get your log ins but would it be so bad for the combat team to make some bold changes instead of the constant homogenization we see every patch? I wouldn't care if newer morphs were something we had to earn either (like through achievements or loads of experience).

I know the pts notes are probably not the place for this but they should be. I should be reading exciting changes like these in the notes that keep me excited about the game and not pages of disappointment. (also I'm too lazy and passionate to copy pasta this into another thread).

side notes:

1. why is having a power gap between new and veteran players such a bad thing? the power fantasy should be your bread and butter not something to crush.
2. If I wanted to play any more mini-games I'd download them onto my phone. it's like instead of getting exciting combat evolutions we keep getting candy crush and magic knock-offs instead.
3. I was replaying last year's content because I was taking a break from the game and I gotta say I love fagrave, when will that house be available again?
4. If you read all that, thank you for your time :smiley: 4.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    adding new morph options is a huge undertaking from a development standpoint. not only is it expected that these morphs should be balanced, but they also need to be unique from the other morphs. some skills really don't need more morphs. so if we did get it, most of the new morphs would feel incredibly bad or even boring. i don't think it's a good idea.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on August 1, 2022 1:42AM
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  • Sandman929
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    It'd be nice but I'm sure it's right after stam whip, ZoS revisiting existing useless skills, the return of dynamic ulti gen, balancing PvP and PvE separately and fixing stuck in combat...in short, it's never ever happening no matter how much sense it makes.
  • Sandman929
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    There are still base skills and both morphs that are pointless. Zos isn't in a rush to look at those either.
  • KingShocker
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    adding new morph options is a huge undertaking from a development standpoint. not only is it expected that these morphs should be balanced, but they also need to be unique from the other morphs. some skills really don't need more morphs. so if we did get it, most of the new morphs would feel incredibly bad or even boring. i don't think it's a good idea.

    honestly, a lot of that's just a lack of creativity. I come up with new morph ideas all day when I get bored. maybe a I should make a thread of all my morph ideas at some point.

    Sure it would be a large undertaking at some point but that means your counterargument is that I expect too much from the zos team.

    ...which is sadly a very strong counterargument.

    look at it this way, if you don't like the idea, and let's say hypothetically they did add new morphs, you could simply just not play them. why expend the effort to rain on other parades?

    I think it is a great idea.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    adding new morph options is a huge undertaking from a development standpoint. not only is it expected that these morphs should be balanced, but they also need to be unique from the other morphs. some skills really don't need more morphs. so if we did get it, most of the new morphs would feel incredibly bad or even boring. i don't think it's a good idea.

    honestly, a lot of that's just a lack of creativity. I come up with new morph ideas all day when I get bored. maybe a I should make a thread of all my morph ideas at some point.

    Sure it would be a large undertaking at some point but that means your counterargument is that I expect too much from the zos team.

    ...which is sadly a very strong counterargument.

    look at it this way, if you don't like the idea, and let's say hypothetically they did add new morphs, you could simply just not play them. why expend the effort to rain on other parades?

    I think it is a great idea.

    i like the idea but i think it's so incredibly unrealistic that they wouldn't do it.
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  • Lykeion
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    Given the catastrophic balance dev showed in U35, I don't think adding more morphs is a good idea
  • Goldtistic
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    I think they need to morph lesser used ultimates and skills to be more unique and usable (like charged atronach, shattering prison, defensive rune, etc.). After doing this and achieving some semblance of balance, then I would agree that they should go for a 3rd morph on skills to spice things up.

  • Mr_Stach
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    I think there's a lot to consider where approaching the "More Morphs" situation.

    I don't think it's just more time, more money, more work, effects, animation, sound, QA, balance, feel thing.

    Will people use the new morphs, what do the new morphs bring to the table that we already don't have? I feel like there plenty of morphs and abilities right now that are so underutilized that the might as well not exist. I say before we start building extensions onto our crumbling building, let's work on what needs to be fixed now, make sure the morphs and skills are all in a good spot then see where we stand.

    I'm all for more morph options as well, I just don't want Zos to essentially add 50 morphs to the game that nobody uses OR everybody uses and the other morphs become the red-headed stepchild and fall into nothingness.
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