Should non-PvP'ers wear Green Colored Clothing for "Do not attack, just here for ticket quests" ?

OnnuK

We can respect this color, and do not attack them, and post zone messages to non aware players.

Living_Tribunal

Lol no. I don't pvp but I know full good and well at any time I can get poned doing my dailies. Makes those tickets much more exciting!! Honestly, with all of the non-pvp events these kinda posts surprise me. However, most people are cool, and will usually leave you alone. Most people...

SpacemanSpiff1

they can wear whatever color they want. other players will still attack

Fata1moose

I only see red when an opposing faction is on screen. Punch kick stab! Just instinct.

Danikat

I like the idea of having a way for players who don't want to PvP to signal that, but I'm not convinced it would work. Firstly a tiny minority of players visit the forum and they won't all see this topic so the majority won't know it means anything. Secondly some would deliberately troll them, as they do now with anyone they suspect is there for PvE or anyone they see doing quests.

I still think it could be a good idea to have some sort of identifier, mainly as a way to signal to each other that they're not going to attack so if someone who just wants to do the quest sees another player wearing green or whatever they know not to worry about them.

I also think some PvPers could have fun counter-trolling the gankers by 'dressing up' as PvEers and then fighting back. Of course the majority of gankers would just run because they're unwilling or incapable of fighting anyone who fights back, so it wouldn't be real PvP but it could still be fun.

But I can't see any way to get the system well known enough that it would actually mean anything.

Jaimeh

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

No, because regardless of the event it's fair game and within the rules (though it is kind of lame, because if you are a serious pvper what kind of fight do you expect to get from a quester), so if you want to participate you have to go through the activity in question. Scouting dailies are the safest, pick a campaign where the scouting missions takes you somewhere near a keep you hold in your alliance so you don't have to ride away to enemy territories and when you approach you can stealth while you are scouting. Then if it's an enemy resource you can wipe at the NPCs and death-port to the base, for an easy quest completion.

Grandchamp1989

YES. So all tamriel citizens can enjoy the Cyrodiil / IC and get their ticket quests done.

Would be maybe kinda funny if the same 20 people browsing the forum agreed on not killing green people.
Then some roleplayer browse by and think he's safe. Then he goes through the trouble to dye all his armor green, login to cyro for some safe, quick tickets only to have an absolute army of people chasing him down.
"No! No! I'm green!? The forum told me I would be safe!? What happened?!!"

But hey sounds like a fun idea. +1 for green safety. Come thursday if I see people decked in green I'll try to not kill them.

Sylosi

Cyrodil is basically a roleplay mode for bads.

Which is why your idea will not work. Your chances of finding someone who actually values even vaguely decent PvP (also known as an actual PvPer), that therefore isn't interested in rolling their face across the keyboard against some guy who won't fight / is new / is terrible, is pretty slim.

The excitement over Midyear Mayhem is a fine example of that. To an actual PvPer, someone interested in decent, skilled, competitve PvP gameplay, Midyear Mayhem is just making PvP that is already very weak in those respects even worse, yet the roleplayers of Cyrodil actually get excited about it.

Auldwulfe

Other. Brainstorm here:

I'd love a toggle switch that put a marker over my head that told people I was PVE --- and if they kill someone that has the toggle, there is a penalty.... .same as it would apply to ANYONE using the toggle, that attacked another player .... maybe a 50% penalty to exp, etc for X hours of actual play - like a reverse exp scroll, etc.

Auldwulfe

Sparxlost

NO they should run back to pve land where they belong
i wont stop just because you are wearing green...
FOR THE PACT!!!!

Blinx

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

attracting attention to themselves would just make them more of a target, no one would adhere to this anyway, it's a pvp event afterall, everyone is fair game.

Vevvev

This idea is so easy to destroy. The moment I get attacked by someone wearing green that social contract ends, and now they all have to die since I can't trust them.

One example of a social contract that didn't work out is holding block means you don't want to be attacked.

I saw a Nightblade in the Imperial City cloak while heading my way and I held block. I did it so when the Nightblade hit me I wouldn't get stunned, however this Nightblade thought it meant I didn't wanna fight. Far from in fact because I was fully prepared to kill him.... and I did. Found him, tore him out of cloak with magelight, and lit him up.

Then I started getting very angry tells thinking my defensive tactics was me standing down or something like that.


Social contracts like this never work in online games.

Sarannah

LOL! This will only make PvPers go: "Oehw, easy target!"

We should just not have PvP events.

TechMaybeHic

Other. Brainstorm here:

If you go to color or some sort of signal to say you are not a pvper; for every player that would let you go, there will be one looking for that soft target. And there would be those using it to then attack players who thought they were not a threat so could increase chances you get targeted.


I suggest learning common paths of other players, stay out of them, and sneak

jaws343

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

You can wear whatever color you want. You can hold block, or not fight back. I'm still going to try to kill you if I come across you in a PVP zone.

Your intention for being in that zone doesn't make you any less of a willing target for PVP.

Faded

Other. Brainstorm here:

It has nothing to do with being "worthy." It's a stupid idea to paint a target on yourself.

They'll be fine.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Why not just paint a bullseye on their chests. LOL

Arato

Other. Brainstorm here:

OnnuK wrote: »

We can respect this color, and do not attack them, and post zone messages to non aware players.

I think griefers would just target the green.
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Ankael07

YES. So all tamriel citizens can enjoy the Cyrodiil / IC and get their ticket quests done.

By all means wear them So I can know whom to target first. Youre not entitled to safety in Cyrodiil

Kiralyn2000

Pointless. The people who're going to Kill Everyone, will Kill Everyone.

Arato

Other. Brainstorm here:

Sarannah wrote: »

LOL! This will only make PvPers go: "Oehw, easy target!"

We should just not have PvP events.

PVP events are dumb. PVP should not be required for the tickets for the annual festival rewards.

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[edited for baiting]

Kirawolfe

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

No.

I'm not a pvper, I have no intention of becoming one. But I love the IC and Cyro zones. I go in to IC before it gets too nutty (like right now) and do the dailies for turn in during the event. I enjoy every minute of it because it adds some true peril to the game, unlike the majority of questing/overland (I also don't mind questing/overland being the way it is, this isn't a dig on that).

I am not optimized for PVP and I've been killed a few times. I don't care. I'm never carrying enough Tel Var to make it a big loss anyway.

I think of it like entering the water - yes, a shark might eat me, but dammit, it's their territory and I'm the one who decided to jump in. %)

Auldwulfe

Other. Brainstorm here:

Kirawolfe wrote: »

No.

I'm not a pvper, I have no intention of becoming one. But I love the IC and Cyro zones. I go in to IC before it gets too nutty (like right now) and do the dailies for turn in during the event. I enjoy every minute of it because it adds some true peril to the game, unlike the majority of questing/overland (I also don't mind questing/overland being the way it is, this isn't a dig on that).

I am not optimized for PVP and I've been killed a few times. I don't care. I'm never carrying enough Tel Var to make it a big loss anyway.

I think of it like entering the water - yes, a shark might eat me, but dammit, it's their territory and I'm the one who decided to jump in. %)

I agree, I carry as few Tel'var stones as is possible for me to do...... if you are going to be one of the sociopaths, you will not get much profit on it with me.

Auldwulfe

JKorr

Actually asking for an event outfit that has a huge bullseye embroidered on the chest would be a better idea.

Seriously, anyone who is already going to go target pve players because that's how they roll will be after anything green because they'd have done it anyway. Having targets identify themselves will only make it easier.

TechMaybeHic

Other. Brainstorm here:

Thinking about it more; a lot of pvpers will know anyway. PvPers and PvEers often just move different

rpa

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

I dont PvP and I think Ive ever been attacked once while doing a scouting mission. If that time I went through a gate at same time as enemy emperor crowining zerg does not count.

It's all about How Not to be Seen

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VokGd5zhGJ4

opalcity

Other. Brainstorm here:

Some PVPers are cool and will recognise that you're questing/shard-hunting etc and leave you be. Some PVPers are meh and go for you when you're fishing, or trying to do the keys in the last event.

If you had a green tabard/white flag system, you can guarantee that the meh players would go for those players.

Also, I would imagine that the system would be subverted by players pretending to be questing and then gank or spy on enemy territory.

El_Borracho

Other. Brainstorm here:

How about a giant target instead. If I go into Cyrodiil, I expect to be attacked.

Tornaad

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

As someone devoid of the slightest trace of pvp skill and who blows up at the slightest hint of an attack from anyone who has seriously played pvp longer than an hour, I say absolutely not.

Yes, I get frestrated when I get ganked in Imperial City 5 times in a row on the way to the simplest of quests, and yes I will even scream and yell, but I still say never.

Why? Because that would ruin the point of the event.

Four_Fingers

If I wear blue colored clothing will Captain Blackheart surrender?

alanmatillab16_ESO

NO. They should be worthy for the event ticket, and learn to defend/hide

There should be a heck no option. If you enter a pvp zone you automatically consent to pvp.

This is coming from someone who dislikes pvp in mmos.