A list of Skill Changes that need to happen in 8.1.3 and 8.1.4

Holycannoli

sharquez wrote: »

Ugh if you want frags just use it. it's not like you use that 15k magicka for anything else, leave crystal weapon alone. Wish it would just go back to how it was before they started needlessly messing with it.

Exactly this. We have Crushing Weapon if we want that. Crystal weapon is not much different now, and at least Crushing Weapon applies Major Breach, and can proc Nocturnal's Ploy (or can it?)

I wouldn't mind a stam morph version of crystal frags though.

sharquez

My point on why a stam frags idea is silly at this point is this: If you are using it as a ranged spammable, slot snipe. if you are only activating it on the proc then just slot it anyway because its cost wont impact you as it activates off any ability.
Crystal weapon was pretty much perfect before they over tuned and then nerfed it in a span of 3 months

MashmalloMan

Wouldn't say perfect, but it was better. I'd take that and the 6 seconds over whatever the pts has done to it..

At this point in a hybrid meta where the lines between skill morphs are minimal, I would also avoid going in the direction of another Stamina Crystal Frags, however..

I would 100% take a melee vs ranged approach instead of ranged mag vs ranged stam with similar flavour.

Aka, instant Stam melee spammable. 33% chance on casting an ability to increase the next use by 33% damage. Leave the 1k pen or change it to Sundered.

This is all they had to do from the get go, we asked them to copy/pasta surprise attack and they for some reason, copy/pasta-ed Crushing Weapon, a spammable that is extremely divided in terms of likeability.

Both skills get the same proc condition for parity, but they're vastly different playstyles offering melee vs ranged, melee has a weaker ceiling, but is more consistent.

This also removes any worry about giving Sorc more delayed burst which we already have via Bound Armaments and Haunting Curse. The whole reason CW is being nerfed in the first place is because it overloads our delayed burst kit that was reinforced with the hybrid changes.

Dumb reason, but their reason nonetheless.

francesinhalover

sharquez wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Just remove crystal weapon from the game and give stam sorcs a alt version of crystal frags

Also make dots 10sec and 20, 15 just doesnt work with anything on this patch

Ugh if you want frags just use it. it's not like you use that 15k magicka for anything else, leave crystal weapon alone. Wish it would just go back to how it was before they started needlessly messing with it.

You can just use crushing weapon from psijic skillline

ESO_Nightingale

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Wouldn't say perfect, but it was better. I'd take that and the 6 seconds over whatever the pts has done to it..

At this point in a hybrid meta where the lines between skill morphs are minimal, I would also avoid going in the direction of another Stamina Crystal Frags, however..

I would 100% take a melee vs ranged approach instead of ranged mag vs ranged stam with similar flavour.

Aka, instant Stam melee spammable. 33% chance on casting an ability to increase the next use by 33% damage. Leave the 1k pen or change it to Sundered.

This is all they had to do from the get go, we asked them to copy/pasta surprise attack and they for some reason, copy/pasta-ed Crushing Weapon, a spammable that is extremely divided in terms of likeability.

Both skills get the same proc condition for parity, but they're vastly different playstyles offering melee vs ranged, melee has a weaker ceiling, but is more consistent.

This also removes any worry about giving Sorc more delayed burst which we already have via Bound Armaments and Haunting Curse. The whole reason CW is being nerfed in the first place is because it overloads our delayed burst kit that was reinforced with the hybrid changes.

Dumb reason, but their reason nonetheless.

yeah i'm not sure how you'd really fix crystal weapon. it seems like most of the designs for new spammables they want to go with now involve having ranged as an option for it, which really hamstrung warden, necro, stamdk and stamsorc.

birdik

Nightblade:
Deathstroke, Grim focus, Teleport strike now have instant animation.
Siphoning strikes now last 30 seconds and provide major brutality/sorcery