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oakensoul nerf not dark convergenge?

Rlacoste
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Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.
  • deleted221205-002626
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    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.
  • Sandman929
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.
  • silver1surfer69
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    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    Conversions was nerfed a bit to my knowledge nd i totally agree this set is ridicolous op. In the hands of a very exp small scale grp it is hell. But i disagree on oakensoul. It is op as hell, saying someone that is using it on a dk...
    PC/EU
    Starstréam - NB, Loveknight - HybridDK (4*), Stahlstrahlenreiter - StamDen, Azgul Grahl Bashrugk - HybridSorc (5*), Tínúvíél - StamCro, Thógard - StamPlar
  • FrankonPC
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    Dark Convergence was nerfed by increasing the cooldown on the proc
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!
    Edited by deleted221205-002626 on July 25, 2022 12:57PM
  • Sandman929
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps
  • deleted221205-002626
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    FrankonPC wrote: »
    Dark Convergence was nerfed by increasing the cooldown on the proc

    I think that was the wrong way todo it.. its a fun pve set.. They should have increased the pull delay by 1 more sec maybe so people have more time to react and block etc.. that would have more far more difference for those having issues than changing the cooldown imo.
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    Oakensoul was helping low dps pve players, so zos had to nerf it. /sarcasm
  • deleted221205-002626
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!
  • Sandman929
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!

    Yes...that's the incredibly annoying part. How is this confusing? It's got nothing to do with being OP, it's an annoying zergling set, just like every set before it that was meant to deal with zergs, it IS the zerg.
  • deleted221205-002626
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!

    Yes...that's the incredibly annoying part. How is this confusing? It's got nothing to do with being OP, it's an annoying zergling set, just like every set before it that was meant to deal with zergs, it IS the zerg.

    Do you find it equally annoying having to block/move from siege and other hard hitting ground effects? Asking for a friend! =p
  • Sandman929
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!

    Yes...that's the incredibly annoying part. How is this confusing? It's got nothing to do with being OP, it's an annoying zergling set, just like every set before it that was meant to deal with zergs, it IS the zerg.

    Do you find it equally annoying having to block/move from siege and other hard hitting ground effects? Asking for a friend! =p

    [Removed (but deserved)]
    Edited by Sandman929 on July 25, 2022 1:24PM
  • Sandman929
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!

    Yes...that's the incredibly annoying part. How is this confusing? It's got nothing to do with being OP, it's an annoying zergling set, just like every set before it that was meant to deal with zergs, it IS the zerg.

    Do you find it equally annoying having to block/move from siege and other hard hitting ground effects? Asking for a friend! =p

    No point in continuing, it's pretty clear the type of player that enjoys DC
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    @Sandman929 I'm right there with you. Maybe (hopefully) DC is less of an issue with upgraded servers, but it remains just as prevalent as ever on console.

    DC isn't the entire issue, it's just where the issue starts. DC, plaguebreak, vicious death, rush of agony, occult overload. I don't even run in groups, but all it takes is one additional person nearby and it's lights out.

    A longer cooldown does nothing when so many people run it.
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    Why do I keep reading the title for this thread as, "Oakenfold nerf?"
  • deleted221205-002626
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    I doubt it, it still means I have to block an annoying AOE pull every few steps

    if you want to avoid it yes!! if you dont want to avoid it then no nerf is gonna save u!

    Yes...that's the incredibly annoying part. How is this confusing? It's got nothing to do with being OP, it's an annoying zergling set, just like every set before it that was meant to deal with zergs, it IS the zerg.

    Do you find it equally annoying having to block/move from siege and other hard hitting ground effects? Asking for a friend! =p

    No point in continuing, it's pretty clear the type of player that enjoys DC

    Correct! Because once the server upgrades are complete you WILL see its easier to avoid than ANY ground effect ingame!
  • Sandman929
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    SkadiMZ wrote: »
    @Sandman929 I'm right there with you. Maybe (hopefully) DC is less of an issue with upgraded servers, but it remains just as prevalent as ever on console.

    DC isn't the entire issue, it's just where the issue starts. DC, plaguebreak, vicious death, rush of agony, occult overload. I don't even run in groups, but all it takes is one additional person nearby and it's lights out.

    A longer cooldown does nothing when so many people run it.

    Plaguebreak, IMO, is a close contender for most annoying set. I still can't believe ZOS made a set that actually allows you to actively kill your own faction.
    DC is an annoyance unmatched by anything, but PB is ZOS sanctioned trolling since you can kill friendlies by purging them
  • ccfeeling
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    FrankonPC wrote: »
    Dark Convergence was nerfed by increasing the cooldown on the proc

    I think that was the wrong way todo it.. its a fun pve set.. They should have increased the pull delay by 1 more sec maybe so people have more time to react and block etc.. that would have more far more difference for those having issues than changing the cooldown imo.

    Pvp > pve
  • ZiggyTStardust
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    Now no doubt Dark Convergece is overpwoered (and getting nerfed), but Oakensoul is too strong in pvp right now too. Maybe not in large group fights where DC would become a big issue, but it gives a large advantage in small scale encounters.

    Though I do think they should give it pve specific buffs so it will continue it's job of helping struggleing players compete there
  • TechMaybeHic
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    Lag has been creeping back over time and can make this a pain again at times. Its hit or miss yet still annoying. For as lousy as I hear this set is, you fight against a zerg and the entire courtyard gets covered by it.

    I just hope the cooldown reduces the ground covering. It sucks when a coordinated group bombs with one, but to some extent, it's like "OK those guys are going to nuke people one way or another anyway" but the constant spam...
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    sinnereso wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    sinnereso wrote: »
    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is. When yo encounter a fight in Cyro, you are fighting the Dark Convergence OP exploiters and they want to make grp players stronger than casuals. casuals mean nothing. Oakensoul does not pull you through walls or extend 100M when you are in a leap or you're streaking by. Break free doesn't work in lag very well so Dark Convergence is as bad as NB stuns, you can not break free. BUT IT'S OAKENSOUL that warrants a nerf?

    40k heavy attacks so nerf light attacks? I see your reasoning(I really don't)

    Dark Convergence is a toxic set to fight against and I avoid fights and only PVdoor. What's the point? PVP is PVE now.

    Exploiting is ok, having fun isn't..

    You need to leave Oakensoul alone, it helps people with disabilities. Mental Health is real and this set makes it easier for some who may have cognitive dysfunctions. Focusing is a real issue for many people on this planet.

    As a person with disabilities and playing this game since 2017. Ther'e many things out of my reach. Your vet dungeons, your normal trials, Maelstrom is easy for YOU, not us. Oakensoul helps us attempt these. I actually even attempted Vateshran, nope couldn't do it. Too many things to focus on even with oakensoul.

    DCON is the easiest set to avoid in pvp and why most aren't even using it anymore. You literally touch block when u see it and its avoided.

    As long as the server cooperates, sure. But that's rare on console. DC deserves a nerf just on the grounds that it's incredibly annoying and is definitely not "not being used"...it's everywhere.

    once u get the server upgrades you'll feel differently.. on PC/NA lag is completly gone and its wonderful again!

    Lag has been creeping back over time and can make this a pain again at times. Its hit or miss yet still annoying. For as lousy as I hear this set is, you fight against a zerg and the entire courtyard gets covered by it.

    I just hope the cooldown reduces the ground covering. It sucks when a coordinated group bombs with one, but to some extent, it's like "OK those guys are going to nuke people one way or another anyway" but the constant spam...

    an added 1sec delay to pull imo would have still been more effective for people struggling with lag. I doubt increasing the cooldown will have much effect, they'll just coordinate more and drop 5 of them at a time all around you!
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    Rlacoste wrote: »
    Why? Oakensoul isn't OP. Dark Convergence is.

    Disagree. for the price of oakensoul I do not have to lose time rebuffing or swapping bars. Since several skills are just used to proc a buff, it makes spamming way easier -- paired with major heroism for ult spamming and its just insane how much utility you get from one piece of gear. Mythics were meant to be OP to start with and have had several nerfs.

    WRT to Dark Convergence -- I keep it on my magsorc as an alternate set because the magsorc has been nerfed so much. I do not run it all the time [usually i use PB or Vampire cloak], just when facing overwhelming odds. I rarely get good kills with it, but use it as an effective stam drain/snare so others around me can smack down giant groups, or to help drain the inevitable unkillable tank. Generally it is not that hard to live through a DC bomb these days.
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    Oakensoul is still arguably the most stat dense mythic in the game even with the nerf. There will still be really powerful set combinations you can run with it and not having a back bar/having 100% uptime on some skills means your sustain is a lot easier to deal with, allowing you to stay on your front bar and apply more pressure.

    There's the density of just the buffs it gives as well as the passive bonuses of not having to buff with rally/entropy/armor etc. It's at least closer now though to other mythics which is nice.
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