Whitestrake's Mayhem 101 - July 2022

VaranisArano

I made this meme for another thread, then decided I liked it enough to include it as a helpful note for any PVEers who are worried about ganking. You can't guarantee that you won't get ganked, but you can make yourself look like a tough, alert opponent. Even if you know you're quaking in your boots, the ganker only sees your HP, your active buffs, and how alert you act.

Like this:

Brrrofski

Really good guide that will hopefully reduce the worry some may have while trying to get involved with the event.

@ZOS_Kevin maybe this could be stickied? I think it will go a long way to improve the event for many.

VaranisArano

Brrrofski wrote: »

Really good guide that will hopefully reduce the worry some may have while trying to get involved with the event.

@ZOS_Kevin maybe this could be stickied? I think it will go a long way to improve the event for many.

They included it in their guide article, actually!

Thanks for reminding me that I should link that here, too.

Community Guides: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/62593

It's got lots of great build ideas for specific playstyles too, which is great because I'm not a theory crafter at all.

Brrrofski

VaranisArano wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Really good guide that will hopefully reduce the worry some may have while trying to get involved with the event.

@ZOS_Kevin maybe this could be stickied? I think it will go a long way to improve the event for many.

They included it in their guide article, actually!

Thanks for reminding me that I should link that here, too.

Community Guides: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/62593

It's got lots of great build ideas for specific playstyles too, which is great because I'm not a theory crafter at all.

Ah cool, that's good to see!

ZOS_Kevin

Yep! We included in the guide article for this go around. I believe we did pin the guide last WhiteStrake's Mayhem. But since it is in the community guide round up, we'll keep pinning the article for next Whitestrake's Mayhem.

Savina

@VaranisArano

Thank you for the time and effort involved in putting this guide together. This is a great beginner guide for anyone looking for information on getting involved in day to day PvP activities also. Can't thank you enough and I'll be referencing this to new players or new to PvP players in the future.

marius_buys

marius_buys

Kallykat

Thanks for this!

FlopsyPrince

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Battlegrounds are more noob friendly. Even if you suck and die lots you will be rewarded. The non deathmatch modes are still pvp but more tactical then brutal

I suggest new people join up in battlegrounds

I haven't done a single battleground because I don't want to gimp my team.

shadyjane62

marius_buys wrote: »

And where the locations where your are most likely to get ganked and lose your stuff.

VaranisArano

shadyjane62 wrote: »

marius_buys wrote: »

And where the locations where your are most likely to get ganked and lose your stuff.

Gankers tend to be built like glass cannons. They need to hide out in stealth for safety until they see an appropriate target, meaning someone who's low hp or distracted enough to be unlikely to fight back too hard.

Therefore, they tend to lurk in places where they know players are going to come. In Imperial City, that's nearby the spawn points and entrances, near the district flags, near the sewer center, near the bosses, and around specific quest locations. That's because they need their weak opponent to come to them or to be distracted for the best chance at a devastating first attack that kills the target and lets the ganker escape. The risk-reward of that playstyle is such that if they don't get the kill in the first burst, they risk dying and losing their stuff

So you might get ganked from behind while fighting a District Boss because that's a fantastic distraction. You might get ganked near an entrance because the ganker could sit there and pick who they wanted to fight. You might get ganked at a quest location for both reasons. I've had all those and more happen to me while questing in Imperial City, which is why I don't carry much Tel Var and just shrug, rez up, and try again by another route.(Except the times I forget to bank my Tel Var and promptly get a painful reminder to do so. )

If gankers are a big concern for you, I'd recommend either using stealth to hide from them as best you can (a PVE Thief/DB murderer type build should do fine) or build to make yourself look like a tough target. High HP, proactive buffs, proactive healing, and using Detect pots or skills will go a long way towards helping you avoid or survive the first burst attack of a ganker. It might feel weird for doing PVE-style questing and boss fighting, but it's better to be built like a PVE tank than a PVE DD in Imperial City when it comes to not being a ganker's first target.

Whatever your build, when you get hit by a ganker: break free, dodge roll, block, and heal - then you can think about fighting back once you've survived.

VaranisArano

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Battlegrounds are more noob friendly. Even if you suck and die lots you will be rewarded. The non deathmatch modes are still pvp but more tactical then brutal

I suggest new people join up in battlegrounds

I haven't done a single battleground because I don't want to gimp my team.

This event is a good time to give it a go, since there'll be other new players around. The dailies "Let the Games Begin" and "Test of Mettle" don't require winning, just persistence.

I was never particularly good at Battlegrounds myself, so I can't offer a ton of advice on how to get good. My best experiences were on healers as long as I stuck like glue to my teammates, an ice mage who CC'd and slowed the enemy for my teammates to finish off, and a gap-closing Stam Sorc who finished off the opponents my teammates weakened.

You might see a pattern - it's a team game. If you aren't sure what you are doing, stick to your teammates. There's strength in numbers and no shame in assisting the more experienced fighters! Good luck!

katanagirl1

VaranisArano wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Battlegrounds are more noob friendly. Even if you suck and die lots you will be rewarded. The non deathmatch modes are still pvp but more tactical then brutal

I suggest new people join up in battlegrounds

I haven't done a single battleground because I don't want to gimp my team.

This event is a good time to give it a go, since there'll be other new players around. The dailies "Let the Games Begin" and "Test of Mettle" don't require winning, just persistence.

I was never particularly good at Battlegrounds myself, so I can't offer a ton of advice on how to get good. My best experiences were on healers as long as I stuck like glue to my teammates, an ice mage who CC'd and slowed the enemy for my teammates to finish off, and a gap-closing Stam Sorc who finished off the opponents my teammates weakened.

You might see a pattern - it's a team game. If you aren't sure what you are doing, stick to your teammates. There's strength in numbers and no shame in assisting the more experienced fighters! Good luck!

This is so true!

I don’t do BGs a lot, and haven’t much lately, but the one time my team stuck to my stamplar like glue I got the title for Battleground Butcher.

The rest of the time everyone is running around spread out and we lose.

Call_of_Red_Mountain

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VaranisArano

Sigh the perils of drafting posts on old threads. Oops!

ZOS_Icy

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