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Official Discussion Thread for "Whitestrake's Mayhem In-Game Event July 2022"

ZOS_Kevin
ZOS_Kevin
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Official Discussion Thread for Article, "Dominate Your Rivals And Earn Unique Rewards During The Whitestrake's Mayhem PVP Event"

"Battle with and against your fellow adventures across Cyrodiil, the Imperial City, and Battlegrounds, all the while earning bonus Alliance Points and XP, in-game rewards, and more!"
Edited by ZOS_Kevin on August 9, 2022 2:27PM
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  • Dagoth_Rac
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    What Indrik berries and pets will be available?
  • Ingenon
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    Thanks for letting us know 7 days in advance! Time to do a bunch of IC daily quests and not turn them in ...
  • CalivoArtades
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    So no Scouting dailies allowed for the 2 cyro event tix this time apparantly (only bounty and conquest-type dailies)
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    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    So no Scouting dailies allowed for the 2 cyro event tix this time apparantly (only bounty and conquest-type dailies)

    They have never listed scout quests in prior event notices and they always worked for a ticket. The "Conquest" board is a single board that has the more extensive objectives (3 keeps, 9 resources, 40 enemy players) and rewards a Siege of Cyrodiil Merit currency every 20 hours. The bounty boards I think refer to all the other quests you get from boards: scouting, kill 20 of a certain class, capture a specific resource, capture a specific keep.
    Edited by Dagoth_Rac on July 21, 2022 5:04PM
  • CalivoArtades
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    So no Scouting dailies allowed for the 2 cyro event tix this time apparantly (only bounty and conquest-type dailies)

    They have never listed scout quests in prior event notices and they always worked for a ticket. The "Conquest" board is a single board that has the more extensive objectives (3 keeps, 9 resources, 40 enemy players) and rewards a Siege of Cyrodiil Merit currency every 20 hours. The bounty boards I think refer to all the other quests you get from boards: scouting, kill 20 of a certain class, capture a specific resource, capture a specific keep.

    Oh I see, thank you for clarifying!
  • Lumsdenml
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    So excited! Best event of the year. Logging in early to begin ganking and collecting Cyrodiil Citrus!
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    Main: Black Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50/CP 2160 Nightblade NA PC - Grand Master Crafter, adventurer and part time ganker. Rank 35 - Palatine Grade 1
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    RIP. Squire of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Knahaten Flu.
    RIP Reaper of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Consumption.
    RIP Sovereign of Tacoma - EP Lvl 32 NightBlade NA PC Kyne - Lost at The Battle of Brindle, December 13, 2018.
    RIP Dauphin of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC Kyne - Overdosed on Skooma.
    RIP Wraith of Tacoma - EP Lvl 10 Dragon Knight NA PC - Eaten by a dragon.
    RIP Red Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died at the Battle of Chalmen, March 18th, 2021.
    RIP Maharajah of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Lost in a sandstorm.
    RIP Vampire Of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Sorcerer NA PC - Fell asleep in the sun. RIP
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
    Yep... I mean for a costume that is the reward for participating in multiple events, it looks kinda bad - at least on a 1st glance. Maybe it is animated or has some cool visual effect or something. It is kinda hard to judge just by seeing a static picture from one side.

    Btw. Is this the top - tier reward for this year's events ? If so, then it is kinda um... "meh" as last year we got a house - Doomchar Plateau.
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Doomchar_Plateau
  • Lumsdenml
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    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
    Yep... I mean for a costume that is the reward for participating in multiple events, it looks kinda bad - at least on a 1st glance. Maybe it is animated or has some cool visual effect or something. It is kinda hard to judge just by seeing a static picture from one side.

    Btw. Is this the top - tier reward for this year's events ? If so, then it is kinda um... "meh" as last year we got a house - Doomchar Plateau.
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Doomchar_Plateau

    But the Doomchar wasn't until the 4Q event tickets, right? This is 3Q event?
    In game ID: @KnightOfTacoma
    Main: Black Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50/CP 2160 Nightblade NA PC - Grand Master Crafter, adventurer and part time ganker. Rank 35 - Palatine Grade 1
    PVP Main:Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Rank 29 - Brigadier Grade 1 - Ravenwatch veteran. Blood for the Pact!
    Guild: The Disenfranchised - ZZ!
    Obituary:
    RIP Priest of Tacoma - EP Lvl 22 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the Garden of Shadows.
    RIP.Viscount of Tacoma - EP Lvl 18 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the war.
    RIP. Squire of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Knahaten Flu.
    RIP Reaper of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Consumption.
    RIP Sovereign of Tacoma - EP Lvl 32 NightBlade NA PC Kyne - Lost at The Battle of Brindle, December 13, 2018.
    RIP Dauphin of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC Kyne - Overdosed on Skooma.
    RIP Wraith of Tacoma - EP Lvl 10 Dragon Knight NA PC - Eaten by a dragon.
    RIP Red Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died at the Battle of Chalmen, March 18th, 2021.
    RIP Maharajah of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Lost in a sandstorm.
    RIP Vampire Of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Sorcerer NA PC - Fell asleep in the sun. RIP
  • Dayhjawk
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    @ZOS_Kevin

    Feedback: Can we possibly have the siege medals drop during future events from respected areas? Be kind nice if they could drop during pvp events to help out.
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Time to make cake! :smiley:
    Lumsdenml wrote: »
    But the Doomchar wasn't until the 4Q event tickets, right? This is 3Q event?

    Correct. :)
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  • VaranisArano
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    Updated my guide with the new article and a few bits of advice from last time: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/612508/whitestrakes-mayhem-101-july-2022
  • bellablithely
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    Ingenon wrote: »
    Thanks for letting us know 7 days in advance! Time to do a bunch of IC daily quests and not turn them in ...

    Yeah, a little bit more notice would have been nice.
  • Sarannah
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    This event should not require two types of PvP to get all three tickets, just let us have all three tickets for any of the PvP activities.

    And personally I also feel all add-ons should be disabled in PvP zones, to create more fairplay for everyone.
    Edited by Sarannah on July 22, 2022 9:14AM
  • Ulfhethinn
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    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.
  • VaranisArano
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    Ulfhethinn wrote: »
    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.

    Cyrodiil disables a lot of memento interactions, such that you have to leave the zone in order to re-up the bonus. Making the Scroll an inventory item allows PVPers to re-up the bonus without leaving and having to sit through the queues again.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|

    I hope it dyes well!!!

    Has anybody checked that on the PTS yet?
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Ingenon wrote: »
    Thanks for letting us know 7 days in advance! Time to do a bunch of IC daily quests and not turn them in ...

    Indeed. All the more since I have keys to turn in from the previous event.

    I hoped to have more done before the formal announcement than I do. Oh well. At least I have scouting quests already done on all 18 characters!
  • Ulfhethinn
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    Ulfhethinn wrote: »
    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.

    Cyrodiil disables a lot of memento interactions, such that you have to leave the zone in order to re-up the bonus. Making the Scroll an inventory item allows PVPers to re-up the bonus without leaving and having to sit through the queues again.

    If it's most and not all, seems like this could be fixed for the one PvP specific potential event memento
  • Goodrods
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    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|

    I hope it dyes well!!!

    Has anybody checked that on the PTS yet?

    Only 2 of the 3 fragments available during event, so have to wait for next pts to grab and try that out. 🤔
  • Sword_Singer
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    @ZOS_Kevin

    Can we please get some information on what is inside the "Bag of Veterans Glory"?
    Last time around it was mentioned that the bags would have a rotating inventory, with the possibility of ebonsteel returning.
    The Bag is also cited as 'NEW', in which I hope it means it is a new bag with shuffled contents.

    Not trying to be rude but quoting you here: "We have noted the confusion with the team regarding the article wording, specifically that the wording should be more specific next time when noting what collectibles are attainable from the Bag of Veteran's Glory." - February 18th 2022

    Alas I am looking forward to the event, see you all on the battlefront :D
    Edited by Sword_Singer on July 25, 2022 10:27AM
  • ceiron
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    Any info on if we are getting any extra campaigns? Already on ps eu gray host is full with a wait to get in. Definitely going to get worse come thursday and theres no way an entire server will get access severely limiting any guild runs etc ...
  • joerginger
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    The extra campaigns will most likely be started when the event begins on Thursday. If this doesn't happen, it will be a big surprise. After all, the extra campaigns were always there during this event in recent years.
  • Hotdog_23
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    For all that is holy please add a writ board for all 6 districts dailies in each alliances base so we don't have to play ladders and loading screening.

    Stay safe :)
  • ZOS_Kevin
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    Community Manager
    Hi All! Got some answers for you on Whitestrake's Mayhem!
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    What Indrik berries and pets will be available?
    Here are the following Indrik berries and pets that will be available:
    • Nascent Indrik Feathers
    • Onyx Indrik Berries
    • Mossheart Indrik Berries
    • Ebon-Glow Indrik Pet
    • Sapling Indrik Pet

    Ulfhethinn wrote: »
    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.
    Thanks for noting this. @VaranisArano's answer sums up the core of the question. But we checked in with the team and they are looking for an alternative solution to this, without impacting the player experience. Nothing to report at this time, but we've passed this sentiment off to the team.
    Dayhjawk wrote: »
    @ZOS_Kevin

    Feedback: Can we possibly have the siege medals drop during future events from respected areas? Be kind nice if they could drop during pvp events to help out.
    We've passed this on to the dev team for consideration. No promises, but we wanted to make sure we highlighted that it was passed on.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Can we please get some information on what is inside the "Bag of Veterans Glory"?
    Ask and you shall receive:
    • Second Legion Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Vigiles Pages
    • Ebonsteel Armor Pages
    • Black Drake's Body or Face Markings
    • Standard-Bearer Emotes (one for each alliance)
    • Standard-Bearer Staves and Shields (one for each alliance for staves and shields (six total items)).

    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
    Yep... I mean for a costume that is the reward for participating in multiple events, it looks kinda bad - at least on a 1st glance. Maybe it is animated or has some cool visual effect or something. It is kinda hard to judge just by seeing a static picture from one side.

    Btw. Is this the top - tier reward for this year's events ? If so, then it is kinda um... "meh" as last year we got a house - Doomchar Plateau.
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Doomchar_Plateau
    As @Lumsdenml noted, Doomchar Plateau was the Q4 event reward. The Daggerfall Paladin is this year's Q3 reward. More info on Q4 when we get closer to that. But for right now, The Daggerfall Paladin is the next event reward item to go after.

    ceiron wrote: »
    Any info on if we are getting any extra campaigns? Already on ps eu gray host is full with a wait to get in. Definitely going to get worse come thursday and theres no way an entire server will get access severely limiting any guild runs etc ...
    Yes, there will be extra campaigns. We’ll spin those up at the beginning of the event.
    Edited by ZOS_Kevin on July 26, 2022 1:59PM
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  • React
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All! Got some answers for you on Whitestrake's Mayhem!
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    What Indrik berries and pets will be available?
    Here are the following Indrik berries and pets that will be available:
    • Nascent Indrik Feathers
    • Onyx Indrik Berries
    • Mossheart Indrik Berries
    • Ebon-Glow Indrik Pet
    • Sapling Indrik Pet

    Ulfhethinn wrote: »
    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.
    Thanks for noting this. @VaranisArano's answer sums up the core of the question. But we checked in with the team and they are looking for an alternative solution to this, without impacting the player experience. Nothing to report at this time, but we've passed this sentiment off to the team.
    Dayhjawk wrote: »
    @ZOS_Kevin

    Feedback: Can we possibly have the siege medals drop during future events from respected areas? Be kind nice if they could drop during pvp events to help out.
    We've passed this on to the dev team for consideration. No promises, but we wanted to make sure we highlighted that it was passed on.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Can we please get some information on what is inside the "Bag of Veterans Glory"?
    Ask and you shall receive:
    • Second Legion Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Vigiles Pages
    • Ebonsteel Armor Pages
    • Black Drake's Body or Face Markings
    • Standard-Bearer Emotes (one for each alliance)
    • Standard-Bearer Staves and Shields (one for each alliance for staves and shields (six total items)).

    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
    Yep... I mean for a costume that is the reward for participating in multiple events, it looks kinda bad - at least on a 1st glance. Maybe it is animated or has some cool visual effect or something. It is kinda hard to judge just by seeing a static picture from one side.

    Btw. Is this the top - tier reward for this year's events ? If so, then it is kinda um... "meh" as last year we got a house - Doomchar Plateau.
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Doomchar_Plateau
    As @Lumsdenml noted, Doomchar Plateau was the Q4 event reward. The Daggerfall Paladin is this year's Q3 reward. More info on Q4 when we get closer to that. But for right now, The Daggerfall Paladin is the next event reward item to go after.

    ceiron wrote: »
    Any info on if we are getting any extra campaigns? Already on ps eu gray host is full with a wait to get in. Definitely going to get worse come thursday and theres no way an entire server will get access severely limiting any guild runs etc ...
    Yes, there will be extra campaigns. We’ll spin those up at the beginning of the event.

    Appreciate this feedback. I would highly recommend that zenimax does not add TOO MANY campaigns to cyrodiil or IC this event - mayhem is supposed to be crowded and hectic, with fights happening everywhere. When there are four additional CP campaigns and 4 additional IC instances added, most of them are a ghost town with little to no actual PVP happening by day 2 or 3 of the event.
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  • ceiron
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    React wrote: »
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All! Got some answers for you on Whitestrake's Mayhem!
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    What Indrik berries and pets will be available?
    Here are the following Indrik berries and pets that will be available:
    • Nascent Indrik Feathers
    • Onyx Indrik Berries
    • Mossheart Indrik Berries
    • Ebon-Glow Indrik Pet
    • Sapling Indrik Pet

    Ulfhethinn wrote: »
    Keep in mind: the Scroll of Pelinal's Ferocity is an inventory item, not a Memento/Tool.

    Why is this still the case? Every other event item that gives an event specific boost is a memento and does not take up room in each character's inventory. What is it about Breda's Mug, Pie of Misrule, etc that they can be mementos but Scroll of Pelinal cannot? All of these provide event specific buffs that appear in your buff section, so it seems like there is no real programming or mechanic reason for forcing us to use up space and have to go scrolling thru our inventory to find it.
    Thanks for noting this. @VaranisArano's answer sums up the core of the question. But we checked in with the team and they are looking for an alternative solution to this, without impacting the player experience. Nothing to report at this time, but we've passed this sentiment off to the team.
    Dayhjawk wrote: »
    @ZOS_Kevin

    Feedback: Can we possibly have the siege medals drop during future events from respected areas? Be kind nice if they could drop during pvp events to help out.
    We've passed this on to the dev team for consideration. No promises, but we wanted to make sure we highlighted that it was passed on.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Can we please get some information on what is inside the "Bag of Veterans Glory"?
    Ask and you shall receive:
    • Second Legion Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Style Pages
    • Legion Zero Vigiles Pages
    • Ebonsteel Armor Pages
    • Black Drake's Body or Face Markings
    • Standard-Bearer Emotes (one for each alliance)
    • Standard-Bearer Staves and Shields (one for each alliance for staves and shields (six total items)).

    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|
    Yep... I mean for a costume that is the reward for participating in multiple events, it looks kinda bad - at least on a 1st glance. Maybe it is animated or has some cool visual effect or something. It is kinda hard to judge just by seeing a static picture from one side.

    Btw. Is this the top - tier reward for this year's events ? If so, then it is kinda um... "meh" as last year we got a house - Doomchar Plateau.
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Doomchar_Plateau
    As @Lumsdenml noted, Doomchar Plateau was the Q4 event reward. The Daggerfall Paladin is this year's Q3 reward. More info on Q4 when we get closer to that. But for right now, The Daggerfall Paladin is the next event reward item to go after.

    ceiron wrote: »
    Any info on if we are getting any extra campaigns? Already on ps eu gray host is full with a wait to get in. Definitely going to get worse come thursday and theres no way an entire server will get access severely limiting any guild runs etc ...
    Yes, there will be extra campaigns. We’ll spin those up at the beginning of the event.

    Appreciate this feedback. I would highly recommend that zenimax does not add TOO MANY campaigns to cyrodiil or IC this event - mayhem is supposed to be crowded and hectic, with fights happening everywhere. When there are four additional CP campaigns and 4 additional IC instances added, most of them are a ghost town with little to no actual PVP happening by day 2 or 3 of the event.

    I agree but at least 2 of the main campaign would be useful and used. Its 10pm uk on a tuesday night and ps eu gray host is full with me in position 14 with a 10 min eta.
  • VaranisArano
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    If we're making campaign requests, I'm going to repeat a plea I made last year: we need a Below 50 Imperial City Campaign.

    There is a Below 50 option for the Battlegrounds tickets.
    There is a Below 50 option for the Cyrodiil tickets.

    It is unfair to not offer a Below 50 option for the Imperial City tickets, yet in the past ZOS has not provided this option during Whitestrakes Mayhem. The Devs have expected that Below 50 players must queue up for the No CP campaign and battle fully leveled players in CP 160 gear during the bounties and fighting for other rewards (even though we used to have a Below 50 campaign prior to splitting them off from Cyrodiil, so it's not like Below 50 players can't handle the PVE side of the content.)

    I brought it up on the PTS when this event was tested and I'm bringing it up again in hopes that the Devs will give Below 50 players a fair chance in all three PVP modes featured on this event.
  • Sword_Singer
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    Thanks for the information, I have been waiting some time for the ebonsteel set to return, I even went ahead and (poorly) made a meme to celebrate the occasion.
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    FluffyBird wrote: »
    The new tickets costume looks like a pink plastic toy =|

    The first thing I thought of when i saw it was.the pink Power Ranger...
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