Need change Drain Power's Major Brutality and Major Sorcery to Siphoning Strikes

master_vanargand

Nightblade's pvpers has long wanted to "change Drain Power's Major Brutality and Major Sorcery to Siphoning Strikes".

Even if you buff the drain power (and morph) that no one uses, no one will use it.
Why can't you understand that?

Need pre buff of class skill's "Major Brutality and Major Sorcery" in PvP.
Do not ignore such a small NB's wish.

emilyhyoyeon

Drain power is nice on PVE nb tanks sometimes but yeah not for the brutality/sorcery. Those skills make more sense to have cowardice and courage.
Brutality and sorcery on siphoning yes please

Lykeion

master_vanargand wrote: »

Even if you buff the drain power (and morph) that no one uses, no one will use it.

Well, I use drain power as a pve NB main. It deals considerable damage in trash fights and its Major Brutality and Major Sorcery help me save on potions. The Minor Courage it provided in pve is not very useful because the tank will generally use Yol to provide you with Minor Courage, but perhaps in some circumstances, it has a place in pvp.

I would be happy if Siphoning Strikes would be enhanced, but please don't say that the other skill enhancements are useless without actually using them.

divnyi

Leave it there, just drop the requirement to hit anything to get the buff.

master_vanargand

Lykeion wrote: »

master_vanargand wrote: »

Even if you buff the drain power (and morph) that no one uses, no one will use it.

Well, I use drain power as a pve NB main. It deals considerable damage in trash fights and its Major Brutality and Major Sorcery help me save on potions. The Minor Courage it provided in pve is not very useful because the tank will generally use Yol to provide you with Minor Courage, but perhaps in some circumstances, it has a place in pvp.

I would be happy if Siphoning Strikes would be enhanced, but please don't say that the other skill enhancements are useless without actually using them.

Trash fights? It's a bad joke.
That opinion is like saying it's useless.
Also, I have tried Power Extraction for many years in PvP and PvE.
It's too weak.

divnyi wrote: »

Leave it there, just drop the requirement to hit anything to get the buff.

You are misunderstanding.
This gives Drain Power a chance to get a new buff.
If skill power lost, skill should get something instead.

Lykeion

master_vanargand wrote: »

Trash fights? It's a bad joke.
That opinion is like saying it's useless.
Also, I have tried Power Extraction for many years in PvP and PvE.
It's too weak.

I don't play NB dps as often as I did before, but I still manage to be in the top 10% damage of eso logs in the latest version. If a skill can make 90% of people satisfied, I don't think it's a bad skill.

Also, I hope you focus on your own topic. Devaluing a skill is not a reason to strengthen another

Mr_Stach

divnyi wrote: »

Leave it there, just drop the requirement to hit anything to get the buff.

I mean the whole fantasy of the skill is siphoning the life-force from your enemies blood. Removing that would be kinda weird right?

Stx

Brutality for NB should be on siphoning strikes...

And Brutality for templar should be on aura and not stamina jabs...

DrSlaughtr

We wouldn't want to give NB any reasonable access to passive brutality/sorcery like other classes because that would just be crazy.

MashmalloMan

ninjagank wrote: »

We wouldn't want to give NB any reasonable access to passive brutality/sorcery like other classes because that would just be crazy.

While I agree that Brutality/Sorcery should be moved, you have to be joking right?

NB's can get +900 raw Weapon/Spell damage very easily this patch

The least of your concerns should be popping a Potion, Degen or Rally.

Grass is always greener on the other side :P

MashmalloMan

Stx wrote: »

Brutality for NB should be on siphoning strikes...

And Brutality for templar should be on aura and not stamina jabs...

100%

I seriously do not understand why ZOS ignores feedback for years like this. It feels like they just don't want to admit their community is right, so they come up with backwards solutions to every problem simply because they're devs, so they must know best?

DK's still fighting over getting stam whip are only now getting a weird half mag/stam hybrid instead of what they've suggested since the dawn of time, before ESO was even born.

Dynamic scaling from flame to poison and stam to mag based on highest resource. Done. Fixed.

They went so far as to make an entirely new stamina spammable for DK that no one likes and they haven't adjusted how that skill functions for years. You know you have a problem when your playerbase calls a skill "Poop Fist".

DrSlaughtr

MashmalloMan wrote: »

ninjagank wrote: »

We wouldn't want to give NB any reasonable access to passive brutality/sorcery like other classes because that would just be crazy.

While I agree that Brutality/Sorcery should be moved, you have to be joking right?

NB's can get +900 raw Weapon/Spell damage very easily this patch

The least of your concerns should be popping a Potion, Degen or Rally.

Grass is always greener on the other side :P

If raw power should decide whether a class should get access to brutality/sorcery without having to deal damage, then we should talk about dragonknight.

This is a long requested feature that has little to do with this update. DKs, Sorcs and Wardens get easy access to the buffs. If you slapped any of those skills on a NB, it wouldn't break cloak. Instead we have to use skills that deal damage first OR have to run 2h, which limits build diversity. That's really all it's about. As you said, these buffs are not hard to get. They just aren't optimized for our class.

w002exp

Drain Power in PvP should be, IMO, what the new Gryphon armor is. Strips a buff from an opponent and gives it to you. Spammable but at a resource cost, so there is a risk of running to exertion and it fits the siphon theme concept.

Siphoning strikes needs more right now. I've dropped it in PvP and PvE since the hybrid patch because incap has a similar effect and sustain just isn't the problem anymore it was 2 years ago.