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Have any ZOS employees completed any end game content? Gryphon Heart? Godslayer? Any trifecta clears? I’d wager not.
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
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lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭Have any ZOS employees completed any end game content? Gryphon Heart? Godslayer? Any trifecta clears? I’d wager not.
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
This patch won't help the balance sheet as this patch hurt us lower end players exponentially harder. I have a disability and it was all I can do to knock out 26k. I'm now parsing at 14k. I can kiss trial and Vet dungeons goodbye now. I'm done if this goes live.33 -
NoSkiilz✭✭✭lordspyder wrote: »Have any ZOS employees completed any end game content? Gryphon Heart? Godslayer? Any trifecta clears? I’d wager not.
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
This patch won't help the balance sheet as this patch hurt us lower end players exponentially harder. I have a disability and it was all I can do to knock out 26k. I'm now parsing at 14k. I can kiss trial and Vet dungeons goodbye now. I'm done if this goes live.
sorry about that
I agree, though. This patch actually hurts casual players wanting to get more into the game. “High-end” players will still breeze on through, while it is now even harder for low end players. You will now need perfect weaving and APMs for certain content (namely the newer vet trials DPS checks).
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Dragonlord573✭✭✭✭✭lordspyder wrote: »Have any ZOS employees completed any end game content? Gryphon Heart? Godslayer? Any trifecta clears? I’d wager not.
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
This patch won't help the balance sheet as this patch hurt us lower end players exponentially harder. I have a disability and it was all I can do to knock out 26k. I'm now parsing at 14k. I can kiss trial and Vet dungeons goodbye now. I'm done if this goes live.
In a similar boat. Been working hard for the past 19 months to get to 50k, got there, and if this patch goes live I expect to be hitting <40k DPS. If I do, I'm just turning off damage numbers and stop trying to get better if I keep playing.5 -
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✭✭✭This is what I don't understand.
The newer trials are HARD. And they are DESIGNED to get absolutely stupid dps. The speedrun for vRG hm is literally impossible if you can't push atros with dds in portals. VDSR is DESIGNED to split the team into 6 and 6 to kill bosses for the speedrun!
How can you make mechanics and achievements where you literally NEED excessive amounts of damage to perform them, and then nerf damage like this?31 -
AinSoph✭✭✭✭✭So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.17 -
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✭Dragonlord573 wrote: »lordspyder wrote: »Have any ZOS employees completed any end game content? Gryphon Heart? Godslayer? Any trifecta clears? I’d wager not.
Now I get it, ZOS has a negative balance sheet (prior to MS saving them) and they need a way to sell their game to more people, but as the end game players continue to leave in droves, this will kill the game as those are the players that teach others how to play the game (as ZOS doesn’t have any real tutorials). I mean I can’t even fill prog groups anymore
This patch won't help the balance sheet as this patch hurt us lower end players exponentially harder. I have a disability and it was all I can do to knock out 26k. I'm now parsing at 14k. I can kiss trial and Vet dungeons goodbye now. I'm done if this goes live.
In a similar boat. Been working hard for the past 19 months to get to 50k, got there, and if this patch goes live I expect to be hitting <40k DPS. If I do, I'm just turning off damage numbers and stop trying to get better if I keep playing.
All of this right here. My rotation was simple. Buff up with boundless and crit surge then, Destructive reach, unstable wall, weapon swap, lightning flood, two lightning heavy attacks, animation cancel one of my buffs (do other buff in next rotation), and finally repeat from reach. If enemy is at excute range then I mix in some Mages' Wrath. I also use the elemental rage ultimate or overload depending on circumstances.
Now I always parse on the pts to ensure that I can still hit 50k+ on the trial dummy and 30k+ on the 3 million... I didn't bother with the trial dummy considering my parse was between 21-22k on the 3 million dummy. My whole playstyle is messed up with dots taking too long to do anything while I'm essentially doing 6 heavy attacks due to how much wasted time is present while waiting for my skills to end. It was a very unfun experience.
I was only able to get my damage up to 25k on the 3 million dummy by using the new set that gives empower (Rage of the Ursauk) rip Kinras. The fact that they introduce sets like this along side a nerf to light and heavy attacks show that they only care about getting people to subscribe for or outright the buy new content. It's quite vile and despicable. My time played in this game is ridiculous, but for the first time in a long time I really don't want to play this game anymore. It's just not fun and all they are doing is making it harder for people to play in a way that most suits them.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
From Software put everyone to shame.
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NoSkiilz✭✭✭Everest_Lionheart wrote: »So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
From Software put everyone to shame.
Everyone.
Game was ported to PC horribly. So we’re their other games. It’s a clearly established pattern. They put no one to shame, they’re right there with them.4 -
Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭Everest_Lionheart wrote: »So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
From Software put everyone to shame.
Everyone.
Game was ported to PC horribly. So we’re their other games. It’s a clearly established pattern. They put no one to shame, they’re right there with them.
Different perspective for console scrubs like me. I had an awesome experience.
The GH run where I couldn’t synergize elevator in portal tonight which is somehow still a bug after all these years while the dev team is hard at work making all kinds of changes nobody asked for is a while other story…9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I’ve had many criticisms over the 8 years I’ve played ESO but I have never said the Devs are out of touch.
This time though? What else can be said... these change took a huge amount of developer time and are atrocious for game balance. I hate almost everything I saw.
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MetallicMonk✭✭✭✭✭So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
Companies know the formula to maximize profits over short periods of time, creating a good and non insulting product for consumers/customers is not part of that formula.0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
Without getting too off topic, some of the blame lies squarely at the feet of the gaming community itself.
To paraphrase a certain movie quote to a slightly more family friendly version:
"You get what you deserve.""If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."2 -
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✭✭✭I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
It's about maximizing profits. By making a game harder, they're hypothetically increasing the retention time of people playing the game. It takes longer to do something, so you'll stay longer to do the thing and hopefully spend more money. By changing the meta of the game often, sometimes drastically, it forces players to spend more time making new builds, getting new sets, running dungeons to get those sets, etc. By raising the floor, they're making the game more accessible to new players, increasing the likelihood that they'll stick around and try to do the hard content that I mentioned before (the changes don't raise the floor, in fact it does lower it quite a bit). Veteran players are not the target audience, it's new players as newer players are more likely to spend money than veterans; at least that's what the marketing department believes.
there's a lot of reasons, but they all revolve around profits. It's a for-profit game after all, that's the business. Games wouldn't exist if they didn't make money, at least not triple A games made by large companies.3 -
DtOG✭✭✭I really hope you devs read this. The feedback is literally 98% negative. Nobody trusts the change your trying to implement. You can’t polish a () and call it gold. The community sees right through this.Edited by DtOG on July 12, 2022 4:45AM11
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LadyAzura✭✭✭The devs are extremely out of touch. If you have ever seen their livestreams on Twitch where they run through the new dungeons (on NORMAL) they take like an hour to do them (and I'm not talking about the previews, I'm talking about them actually doing the dungeon). I would love to see/know of any devs who regularly do vet HM content, or have tris.
This patch just goes to show that they do not care about the mid-end game community, and this is going to create even more of a rift between casual and higher tier players, and between long time players and the devs.
The devs have talked a lot recently about being transparent and more connected with the community, but it still feels like they aren't listening.@LadyAzura | PCNA | youtube.com/@Azuraaaaaaaaa19 -
Saieden✭✭✭✭✭When they came for the RPers and collectors (AWA), many of us said the same thing: they don't care about you, the integrity and spirit of the game, and least of all the opinions and concerns of their paying customers. They proved beyond reasonable doubt back then that "feedback" means nothing unless it echoes their opinion and canned PR responses.I really hope you devs read this. The feedback is literally 98% negative. Nobody trusts the change your trying to implement. You can’t polish a () and call it gold. The community sees right through this.
Go read the AWA threads, all 80k+ responses.11 -
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✭✭✭By the time it makes it to the PTS it's too late. I have yet to see that they listen to feedback, it's their way or the highway. If I hadn't already spent my yearly sub money foolishly on this worthless game I would leave.6 -
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More than 90 pages of feedback about AWA on PTS were ignored. Why would they even care this time?!I really hope you devs read this. The feedback is literally 98% negative. Nobody trusts the change your trying to implement. You can’t polish a () and call it gold. The community sees right through this.
U35 (with some minor changes thru the PTS cycle, as usual) will go live regardless if we like it or not."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2360 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2190 CP
- SweetTrolls | Spring Rose | Daggerfall Royal Legion | Tinnitus Delux [PC][EU] 2345 CP
- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2090 CP
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FantasticFreddie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When they came for the RPers and collectors (AWA), many of us said the same thing: they don't care about you, the integrity and spirit of the game, and least of all the opinions and concerns of their paying customers. They proved beyond reasonable doubt back then that "feedback" means nothing unless it echoes their opinion and canned PR responses.I really hope you devs read this. The feedback is literally 98% negative. Nobody trusts the change your trying to implement. You can’t polish a () and call it gold. The community sees right through this.
Go read the AWA threads, all 80k+ responses.
Yep. And even when it BROKE several quests and encounters, and people begged them not to go live with it, they rammed it through anyways.
End game PVE has tanked since then. A lot of people who said they were going to quit, did.
Even Nefas-- a player who has arguably done more for this game than any other player-- has grown disillusioned and disappointed. .. .5 -
JustAGoodPlayer✭✭✭✭This is free update. But it makes all you buy before (the whole game) - absolute garbage.
Skill changes looks bad (new animation).
Balance is bad.
DK is bad !
Undaunted infiltrator is such bad - that DELETE it already !!! Just delete it !!!
Moltan armaments is bad. DK has no unique skills now.
And from MATH point of view - how to make 3 pl trifectas in trials now ?
Is it even possible in such short period of time for achivment ???
HA was changed and now hit 3 not 4 times on lightning stuff. It looks and feels terrible and more important !!!
Even no information that it was changed in patch notes !!!Edited by JustAGoodPlayer on July 12, 2022 11:43AM4 -
Tendoshii✭✭✭Remember that we’re the problem because we don’t trust them enough. Meanwhile, they still haven’t fixed the exploit that lets people jump into Glademist. How do they fix it? Remove a tree. Yet, that seems too difficult for a team focused on “balance.”6
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JustAGoodPlayer✭✭✭✭Remember that we’re the problem because we don’t trust them enough. Meanwhile, they still haven’t fixed the exploit that lets people jump into Glademist. How do they fix it? Remove a tree. Yet, that seems too difficult for a team focused on “balance.”
They balance things by making them worse ! They can not remove the tree and make game better.
But they can add unplayable lags near this castle to do not even let you get to fight there - want some of such changes ? ))))Edited by JustAGoodPlayer on July 12, 2022 12:21PM0 -
Ishtarknows✭✭✭✭✭Devs out of touch?
Oh yes, I remember a cast time on shields being proposed. Like why would anyone think that was a good idea? Especially when you consider the time of shields was also being nerfed to around 5 seconds, down from 8, and sorc shields no longer scaled from max mag but from health leading to a total gutting of the skill.
The cynic in me wonders if the cast time was a red herring which was never going to make it to live, to make the other changes more palatable. Well I really hope there's a few red herrings in these patch notes.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »Devs out of touch?
Oh yes, I remember a cast time on shields being proposed. Like why would anyone think that was a good idea? Especially when you consider the time of shields was also being nerfed to around 5 seconds, down from 8, and sorc shields no longer scaled from max mag but from health leading to a total gutting of the skill.
The cynic in me wonders if the cast time was a red herring which was never going to make it to live, to make the other changes more palatable. Well I really hope there's a few red herrings in these patch notes.
Worth noting that the dev team that proposed those changes was very different than today's dev team.
Not defending either those or the current changes but we shouldn't act like those changes were proposed by the same people because they weren't.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So we got ActiBlizzard, SQEnix, Atari, Facebook (meta), Rockstar, EA, and now ZOS on that "Disconnected Company" vibe that's all the craze these days. I genuinely don't know what on earth is happening in the gaming community as a whole lately.
Without getting too off topic, some of the blame lies squarely at the feet of the gaming community itself.
To paraphrase a certain movie quote to a slightly more family friendly version:
"You get what you deserve."
If players weren't so obsessed about how and who deserves this achievement or that one, I do think they'd be able to make changes just to get stuff in the thresholds they want. Like we want the top 10% of the playerbase to be able to do vet trials, but the bottom portion of that group are mostly using dot builds and dot builds don't deserve to be good, so we gotta get them there without allowing them to use those builds. And it never works because if those people could use the better build properly, they'd already be doing it. And so nerfing there stuff isn't gonna make them change builds, it's gonna make them quit.1
