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New patch notes are despicable

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Throw it all in the trash and try again. I don’t even care if some of the changes are good. We don’t need immense sweeping changes every 6 months. You people want to talk about accessibility but how accessible is it when you’re changing stuff so drastically a few times a year? <snip>

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Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on July 11, 2022 7:36PM
  • Woeler
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  • xDeusEJRx
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    Zos a few months ago: We're done with nerfs, we're gonna increase viability of less used abilities

    Also zos: drastically changes a large amount of abilities to be radically different
    Solo PvP'er PS5 NA player

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  • FantasticFreddie
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    I do not understand the argument that they want to "narrow the gap" by....... nerfing damage across the board? Once again, this will disproportionately hit up and coming raiders. Nerfing light attack damage won't make light attack weaving less important, it will just put pressure on supports to have empower uptimes.
  • acastanza_ESO
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    Nerfing light attacks because the damage is "not accessible" then doing crap like Empower - a huge light attack buff that only highly coordinated experienced groups will get? It's a farce. Straight up slap in the face.
    Edited by acastanza_ESO on July 11, 2022 7:03PM
  • Breakwell
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    These patch notes are the embodiment of “ too long didn’t read”
  • Firstmep
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    Nerf light attack dmg but introduce sets that require perfect weaving to use well. Only in Eso...
  • jaws343
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    Nerfing light attacks because the damage is "not accessible" then doing crap like Empower - a huge light attack buff that only highly coordinated experienced groups will get? It's a farce. Straight up slap in the face.

    Everyone has access to Empower...
    Not only with class skills, but also with Mages Guild skills. It isn't some high end group only buff.

  • FantasticFreddie
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Nerfing light attacks because the damage is "not accessible" then doing crap like Empower - a huge light attack buff that only highly coordinated experienced groups will get? It's a farce. Straight up slap in the face.

    Everyone has access to Empower...
    Not only with class skills, but also with Mages Guild skills. It isn't some high end group only buff.

    For 3 seconds. Any good empower uptimes will come from skilled supports.
  • Dragonlord573
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Nerfing light attacks because the damage is "not accessible" then doing crap like Empower - a huge light attack buff that only highly coordinated experienced groups will get? It's a farce. Straight up slap in the face.

    Everyone has access to Empower...
    Not only with class skills, but also with Mages Guild skills. It isn't some high end group only buff.

    Wreaking Blows from 2H also gives Empower.
  • Four_Fingers
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    The fact that you need to know work arounds for these changes kind of negates the stated reason for making them.
  • doesurmindglow
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    I mean I made a post earlier about how sweeping changes and very long patch notes make the game less accessible to people who can't be bothered to keep up with all the details.

    I was assured none of the changes matter to those people, so I guess oh well?

    lol

    Personally I do agree tho yea. It's a lot to read and a lot to be aware of, and will render a lot of sources of information out of date, which will make things more confusing if you're just trying to learn the game.
    Guildmaster : The Wild Hunt (formerly Aka Baka) : AD PC/NA
  • Dalsinthus
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    They want us to try it and trust them, but reading through things I'm just like why even bother. My main class, warden, is gutted with these nerfs. It's going to be hard to find the motivation to play at all.
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    They want us to try it and trust them, but reading through things I'm just like why even bother. My main class, warden, is gutted with these nerfs. It's going to be hard to find the motivation to play at all.

    Agree

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  • Wyrd88
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    Hmm, they were right, it's not that bad as I thought it is.
    It's way worse than that, just beyond imagination.
  • Sandman929
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    It really is all bad from start to finish. So bad, in fact, that it even made the font annoying.
    Oakensoul needed the nerf...but its just another example of ZOS making everyone start from scratch every few months because they have no idea what they're doing.
  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Yeah this thread title would normally seem like a massive overstatement but after reading the patch notes I agree.
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  • Tsunahmie
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    My stomach is twisting after reading the sorcerer changes for sure.
    Been playing since the start and never have the patch notes made me feel so bad
    (Magsorc PvP btw)

    The whole patch notes are absolutely heartwrenching and Brokensoul in PvP was an easy fix......all they needed to do was apply the minor buffs through Battlespirit but instead the nerf it in PvE as well where it was actually balanced!

    ZoS needs to fire the balance team as a whole
  • Arthtur
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    Doomsayers were wrong. LA nerfs are nothing compared to other changes xD
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    Toxic Tank for the win :x
  • prof_doom
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    Arthtur wrote: »
    Doomsayers were wrong. LA nerfs are nothing compared to other changes xD

    Nobody was going to guess that the LA nerf was going to be the least egregious change.
    I mean seriously, they destroyed Sorc, Warden, and DK. About the only class that didn't get eviscerated was Necro.
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    prof_doom wrote: »
    Arthtur wrote: »
    Doomsayers were wrong. LA nerfs are nothing compared to other changes xD

    Nobody was going to guess that the LA nerf was going to be the least egregious change.
    I mean seriously, they destroyed Sorc, Warden, and DK. About the only class that didn't get eviscerated was Necro.

    I saw few who were "weaving is DEAD" etc. but yeah i had feeling that LA will be the lest impactful change... but i wasnt expecting that other changes will be THAT bad...
    Tho i was right that there will be a lot to read on PTS xD
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    Toxic Tank for the win :x
  • ixmike
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    Personally, I like the constant changes.

    To quote Forrest Gump, ESO "is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you're gonna get."
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  • JustAGoodPlayer
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    ixmike wrote: »
    Personally, I like the constant changes.

    To quote Forrest Gump, ESO "is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you're gonna get."

    I know - you will not get anything good ))) But you will hope each time )

    Will any body of you test this ? It is such bad ... that = i even already do not care. All game play will be card game soon because all other will be ruined. And i even do not play that card game and will not - because i am not interested in this content.
    Edited by JustAGoodPlayer on July 11, 2022 8:58PM
  • AJA
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    I hope this is just a nightmare and I wake up with the actually good patch notes tomorrow
  • IronWooshu
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Nerfing light attacks because the damage is "not accessible" then doing crap like Empower - a huge light attack buff that only highly coordinated experienced groups will get? It's a farce. Straight up slap in the face.

    Everyone has access to Empower...
    Not only with class skills, but also with Mages Guild skills. It isn't some high end group only buff.

    For 3 seconds. Any good empower uptimes will come from skilled supports.

    We found the one thing DK's will be good for this patch lol
  • NettleCarrier
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    I was "okay" with the LA changes, especially since I'm not really the best at it either. After reading all these skill changes though...... *picks up pitchfork*

    Edit: I am a warden main...
    Edited by NettleCarrier on July 11, 2022 10:19PM
    GM of Gold Coast Corsairs - PCNA
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    There is never a good reason in any game for downward adjustments across the board. Here and there for an over performing item, sure. But not across the board. Players hate it.

    There is also no reason to fundamentally change the way a class is played (warden) after years and years. Wtf.

    The whole idea behind this patch needs to be scrapped. Throw it all in the bin and start over with some small needed adjustments here and there.
  • Riptide
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    The timing I just chuckle and shake my head at. Not 2-3 months before a major expansion release.

    But a month or two after it right after folks golded gear and spent time upon returning to the game, get settled in, and bam - big changes.

    #winning
    Esse quam videri.
  • Sluggy
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    Yeah, these changes are just shocking to me. I really thought they were finally done with these massive sweeps across the board and here they go again not only changing core mechanics but almost every skill and the fundamental ways they are used. I was thinking about coming back but after seeing this, I might just pop in for one last MyM and then finally call it quits for good. I just can't keep up with this rate anymore and it's no fun to find a way to play that I love just to see it literally not even exist a year or so later - not get nerfed or adjusted. Just *poof*. Gone.
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  • katorga
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    prof_doom wrote: »
    Arthtur wrote: »
    Doomsayers were wrong. LA nerfs are nothing compared to other changes xD

    Nobody was going to guess that the LA nerf was going to be the least egregious change.
    I mean seriously, they destroyed Sorc, Warden, and DK. About the only class that didn't get eviscerated was Necro.

    Necro is ruined too. Don't worry.

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