Zenimax, please, change Sorcerer-King Orgnum patron

DinoZavr

what upsets me the most is that Orgnum spam contradicts the very idea of the desk-building, and, in its' current state - very hard to counter. Generally, the game is good, it requires thinking and planning, but Developers decided to destroy this, simply allowing to push that Orgnum button each and every turn. This is kind of OP. Volendrung adds some chaos in Cyrodiil, but this is once in 5 hours. Orgnum spam is persistent and in my humble opinion ruins the game, which could be fun otherwise.

MaraxusTheOrc

Not a fan of a fluid tavern idea. Ignoring tavern cards so your opponent has to spend their gold to cycle them out is a valid strategy, especially in the early game where resource generation is so important.

There has to be different solutions than hamstringing another prominent strategy as collateral damage.

SilverBride

It's not that easy to stay favored with Orgnum. If your opponent has any idea how the deck works they won't let the other player stay favored. I've passed up decent cards to remove their favor and keep them from accumulating Maormer Boarding Party cards.

WitchyKiki

i love orgnum because its the patron I use to counter red eagle spammers. If orgnum is going to get re-worked then red eagle should as well, if you have it pointing towards you then make it not let you draw a card anymore, just how crow works. No more use after it's facing you.

Austacker

I'm so over this Patron

There's a few regular ToT players who run this Patron every game and just spam it & it's beyond tiresome

There is literally no strategy at all to playing this patron.

10 - Spend all your coins for the turn
20 - Check coins > 3 and if true, buy any card you can afford to grow deck further (regardless of synergy)
30 - Spam Patron
40 - Goto 10

Never, in all the years I've played CCGs, have I seen such a stupid and asinine 'strategy' presented in a 'tactical' CCG

It's (by far) the part of ToT I detest the most. Not only because it's such a 'cheap' strategy, but it takes almost zero skill to implement and makes a complete mockery of the strategic foundation of this CCG.

Dragonnord

Austacker wrote: »

10 - Spend all your coins for the turn
20 - Check coins > 3 and if true, buy any card you can afford to grow deck further (regardless of synergy)
30 - Spam Patron

OK. My turn now. I do the same exactly as you just did.

By the way, I may have picked up a +2 Prestige Orgnum card you revealed when you bought a card to grow your deck.

So far, we're even in Prestige (and I may have a +2 Prestige Orgnum in my deck).

Your turn.
 

SilverBride

I think Rajhin is the deck they needs changed. Its whole purpose is to troll.

DinoZavr

SilverBride, please, no offense, but Rajhin could be countered with Red Eagle and with Celarus (not counting Crows bursts and sacrificing expensive Hlaalu cards). Orgnum has barely no guaranteed counterplay, rather than both players spam this button.

SilverBride

How does any other deck counter being spammed with bewilder cards? The only thing to do with these is to turn them into writs which takes coins away from being used to buy a good card, or hope you are lucky enough to get a Red Eagle card that let's you destroy them. Either way doing these hinders getting good cards and forming combos.

I've played several games with Orgnum that didn't just spam the patron nonstop. There is more to it than that.

Dragonnord

Dragonnord wrote: »

Austacker wrote: »

10 - Spend all your coins for the turn
20 - Check coins > 3 and if true, buy any card you can afford to grow deck further (regardless of synergy)
30 - Spam Patron

OK. My turn now. I do the same exactly as you just did.

By the way, I may have picked up a +2 Prestige Orgnum card you revealed when you bought a card to grow your deck.

So far, we're even in Prestige (and I may have a +2 Prestige Orgnum in my deck).

Your turn.
 

@Austacker So? You concede already? So easy to spam it but you can't even make the next move?

Your turn, I'm waiting...