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Another Oakensoul Post, but a positive one

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pklemming
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I do seem to spend a lot of time complaining or pointing out issues that I feel need to be addressed, this is not one of those posts.

In it's current form, the Oakensoul ring seems to be doing exactly what was intended for PVE. Personally, using it will not increase my DPS, but for a lot of people I know who either have a disability, or are more of a casual player, we have seen a significant increase in dps in content.

Hopefully, this should allow those players access to content that have not bee able to participate in previously.

Anyway, I think this did and awesome job helping those people who were struggling, or felt unable to see content, they never expected to be able to do.
Edited by pklemming on June 20, 2022 3:54PM
  • Wing
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    i dont have it, not really into chasing mythics.

    but i do play with some older players and recommended it to them, as it should help their play!

    i do wonder how much of the complaints is related to its strength, or that it can indeed raise the floor of player ability significantly, and that is a threat to better players. . .
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  • Iselin
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    pklemming wrote: »
    I do seem to spend a lot of time complaining or pointing out issues that I feel need to be addressed, this is not one of those posts.

    In it's current form, the Oakensoul ring seems to be doing exactly what was intended for PVE. Personally, using it will not increase my DPS, but for a lot of people I know who either have a disability, or are more of a casual player, we have seen a significant increase in dps in content.

    Hopefully, this should allow those players access to content that have not bee able to participate in previously.

    Anyway, I think this did and awesome job helping those people who were struggling, or felt unable to see content, they never expected to be able to do.

    It can increase your DPS in solo play a bit for some special cases. In group play with good players some of the buffs it gives you are duplicates of what you can get from group mates but when you're soloing it's tough to get all of those buffs with either one or two bars.

    One bar builds are not new but some slotted passives or buff skills always took up one or two slots on the one bar making the rotation more like 2 or 3 skills and/or supplementing that with the consumption of expensive potions.

    Where Oakensoul shines is in that those builds now can slot 5 skills that you would typically spread out over two bars on a regular build on one and you can just use the cheap vanilla potions. There's not as much need to make compromises for one bar builds with Oakensoul maybe leaving out AOE skills or executes or swapping skills for boss vs. trash fights.

    There's definitely no "OMG nerf this, it's too OP!" about it. It's just a nice option for some builds for everyone and like you say, a very nice help for those who for whatever reason struggle with weapon swapping builds.

    Additionally it also makes you less squishy and helps quite a bit with passive resource regen.
    Edited by Iselin on June 20, 2022 5:08PM
  • Artim_X
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    In relation to PvE, I definitely know some people who would have probably stuck around if an item that simplified gameplay for them was available. However as mentioned in another post, IMO it should not work in a PvP environment. It just gives way too much.
    Zekka wrote: »
    ZOS should leave all the buffs on it, and even add all the minor ones for good measure.
    Then they should add "This item does not work while Battle Spirit is active" in its tooltip
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
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    • Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
      Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
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    • Stress free one bar pet build .
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
    • Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    Eye of the Queen
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
    Eye of the King
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • darvaria
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    Hope it's true, but someone said it now drops in Thieves Troves and has double the drop rate.

    THANKS! Even though I've had the lead since day 2, it dampened my job to see ppl so miserable.
  • joseayalac
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    Many are saying that it will get nerfed because it provides too much buffs for a single piece of gear. However, I don't believe this would be the case.

    To put in other words what OP said: it raises the floor, but not the ceiling.

    I doubt that's nerf territory.

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    joseayalac wrote: »
    Many are saying that it will get nerfed because it provides too much buffs for a single piece of gear. However, I don't believe this would be the case.

    To put in other words what OP said: it raises the floor, but not the ceiling.

    I doubt that's nerf territory.

    I hope you're right. I don't want it to become a shadow of its former self by the time I get High Isle.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • freespirit
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    I just unlocked it last night but haven't tried it yet.

    I've always struggled with rotations and bar swapping, so I'm hoping it will just help me be me more effective whilst using just one bar. 😏
    When people say to me........
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    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • Holycannoli
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    Yes, as a mediocre player that just doesn't have the fast reflexes and reaction time for gaming anymore the Oakensoul has given me a much-welcomed boost.

    I won't say it's overpowered because it does halve the number of skills available to use. I do have to think carefully about which skills I want to use, but at my age I'm more about thinking and less about fast reactions now anyway lol.
  • Foxtrot39
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    Made overland content bearable as tank for me
  • TaSheen
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    I'm hoping I'll be able to get it before long - I'm older, my reflexes are slow, my internet sucks, bar swapping isn't possible for me, and the combat is not what I'm really comfortable with.

    I haven't even looked at where all the leads are from, as I knew I wasn't going to mess with the one in Murkmire for a long time.
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  • Iselin
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    I'm hoping I'll be able to get it before long - I'm older, my reflexes are slow, my internet sucks, bar swapping isn't possible for me, and the combat is not what I'm really comfortable with.

    I haven't even looked at where all the leads are from, as I knew I wasn't going to mess with the one in Murkmire for a long time.

    Three leads are very easy to get:

    1. Volcanic Vent group events in High Isle and Amenos
    2. Any ore nodes (not jewelry nodes though) in Glenumbra
    3. Any mob in Malabal Tor

    The 4th is a drop from the world boss at Mudcrab Beach in SW Stormhaven. It's a pretty easy boss and at the moment its camped fairly heavily so you shouldn't even have to solo it if you go now.

    The 5th is the infamous one from Murkmire safeboxes and whatever the new thing is (thieves troves?)
  • Rowjoh
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    Make no mistake, Oakensoul is overpowered in PVP and will be nerfed because of that.

    The balance in PVP has become so bad it's reached a point where unkillable builds are common, and Oakensoul makes 'God Mode' massively more accessible.

    An obvious solution would be to make it a PVE item only, or at least reduce it's effectiveness in PVP only.
  • Sarannah
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    As a PvE only player, I am currently testing the oakensoul ring on two of my characters. A mag DPS, and a sta DPS. The ring is ok, it does not buff my damage in any way, but it does give me slightly more resource regens and some protection. And it allows me to no longer focus on pre-buffing before a fight.

    Love seeing the amount of buffs in the characterscreen!

    PS: Don't nerf this ring again, just disable mythics in PvP entirely. Or we will run into this issue on any future mythics again and again.
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