Mora's Whisper lead NOT droppong in ATOLL

Fhritz

Done. After 10+ hours. I'll never enter in a Deadland portal AGAIN

Feaky

20+ runs thru ICP and much of the past 2 days farming the same 4 spawn points in ATOLL for the watchlings. And nada. I am starting to ask myself, why bother?

RealLoveBVB

For what does one need Mora's 15% XP buff when you reach cp 3600 with just farming the lead already.

pupsas

The bloodshot oculus (lead from the big watchers) also drop in the deadlands zone, not just the Atoll portal. Got it myself just a few hours ago.

aaisoaho

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

For what does one need Mora's 15% XP buff when you reach cp 3600 with just farming the lead already.

For the 1.5k crit the Mora's Whispers gives. Kilt, which gives 1.1k crit when fully stacked, is not usable everywhere, so non-conditional and constant 1.5k crit is pretty good assuming you are using a 5-5-1-1 setup and not a 522221 setup (cannot do a 522221 because mora's is a shoulder piece).

Tommy_The_Gun

I looted around 100 of those pesky Watchlings & still no lead (I am entering from Deadlands). Drop rate is atrocious. Right now I am trying to find other leads for this mythic. Idk if this is true, but it might be, as I have heard other players saying that their experience is similar, but having 4/5 leads actually makes the final lead to drop faster. Idk if it is some kind of psychological effect or it actually increase the drop rate for the last lead.

Kisakee

aaisoaho wrote: »

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

For what does one need Mora's 15% XP buff when you reach cp 3600 with just farming the lead already.

For the 1.5k crit the Mora's Whispers gives. Kilt, which gives 1.1k crit when fully stacked, is not usable everywhere, so non-conditional and constant 1.5k crit is pretty good assuming you are using a 5-5-1-1 setup and not a 522221 setup (cannot do a 522221 because mora's is a shoulder piece).

You can run a 53(21)X1 though.

Draxys

It drops, but leave it to zos to troll us with a lead that drops from an uncommon mob that doesn't even give any loot the majority of the time. This was such an unbelievably bad idea, and it's sad that I'm not even surprised they would do this to the players. I would even say this is worse than the murkmire boxes, bc those will be more accessible by next week. This watchling lead could take weeks to drop for some people. Such a stupid idea.

Alcast

The lead for Mora's Whispers drops in Atoll, it took me around 1200 Watchlings. I know of ppl that had to kill 2000+ to get it.

This lead is worse than the one in Murkmire. Most players just haven't realized that yet because all eyes were on the Oakensoul Ring.

EF321

Yes, it is terrible. Pointless and unfun. No reason for drop rates to be this low.

KlauthWarthog

Started farming those yesterday, decided to stop bothering after 3h.
So far, most of those leads are souring the experience with this chapter.

EF321

KlauthWarthog wrote: »

Started farming those yesterday, decided to stop bothering after 3h.
So far, most of those leads are souring the experience with this chapter.

I keep coming back there instead of... uh... playing the game. All those new fully voiced quests, and highlight of the expansion - card game. And other players are competitors there, not helpers. Such a terrible design, all those treasure chest, node, safebox, specific mob leads. Even GROUP bosses, since only 12 players can loot.

Scallan

The Watchling lead is so painful to farm right now. I hope ZOS buffs drop rate!

EF321

It is absolutely terrible. But as I am done, sharing farming techniques. ~12 WPM (Watchlings per minute).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_SKlKG9IvE

rpa

I have not bothered to grind antiquities for a long time. But my anecdotal experience from annoyance of Bad Man's Hallow (Pale Order lead from mobs, Wild Hunt from public event boss) was that first random lead - any random lead - of the day appeared to drop quite fast and the next after that takes much longer time time. So, when you log in do the specific grind for the lead you are missing first before going for other things which may drop a random lead.

evymyu233

they drop lead

VixxVexx

I'll tell you a little secret.

There is a tiny bugged spawn that allows you to kill about 24 watchlings per spawn. (it's a little buggy but I'll explain)

As others have said, the Fire Behemoth on the side, right before the last boss spawns 3 watchlings. Which you can keep resetting by dragging away the behemoth. However, you can do better.

Have 3 guys (one for each portal that spawns around the behemoth) camp each portal. If you manage to kill the watchlings before their portals despawn it will keep spawning a new watchling. The best way to do this is with daedric mines or something similar and just 1 shot the tiny watchers as they come out. I was able to get a maximum of 3x12 repeated spawns from one single behemoth pull.

Of course not all of them are lootable but with an average of around 15 kills per pull instead of 3 you can see why it would go faster.

Still, putting a lead on a tiny mob that isn't lootable 85% of the time might be worse than the strongboxes.

RichestGuyinEso

I was using the same farming route as EF321 as I was single farming and not with others. Its really annoying to get, but didnt take me ages. Thanks for the hint of VixxVex you can actually spawn another watchling if you kill it fast enough while spawning- I was using fire rune skill for it. So it does drop confirmed here, just takes a bit most likely.
https://youtu.be/ddvA4YUWqKY

Anomander72

Mora's Whisper Bloodshot Oculus Lead: Here is how I got it and it took me about 20 minutes. The good news is that I was by myself, and got to kill these two Watchers with no one else around. Once people find this location that might change, so grab quick:

Kill the Watcher near Annihilarch's Summit Wayshrine first. It will respawn again in 5:30 minutes. Hop on your horse and take your time riding to the second spot near Channel Pulpit. The Channel Pulpit Watcher spawns exactly 2:30 minutes after the Annihilarch Summit Watcher. Rinse and Repeat (See images below for precise locations)

cmetzger93

Yeah this lead is insane. When people finally get done with oakensoul they will realize it

ESO_Nightingale

i've only got the one that spawned from the big watcher.

spacefracking

I have been doing this for days. Thousands of watchlings.

This is beyond 'a bad idea', bordering on purely 'bugged'. The mob has a smaller drop chance than other mobs. Pick a regular mobs maybe? Omggg losing my mind.

The drop rate is even lower than daedrats in the overland for that other lead. WAYYY lower

Did Oakensoul in 45 minutes at 4am, and this one... endless

Djennku

It takes awhile, but it does drop. I have the mythic completed, so I can assure you it is not bugged.

spacefracking

Djennku wrote: »

It takes awhile, but it does drop. I have the mythic completed, so I can assure you it is not bugged.

There were adjustments made, I have heard through the grapevine, to other mythic lead drops.

The issue with this one is the playerbase of people that have actually collected the pre-requisite books is so low, the outsized issues with drop rate have gone largely unnoticed, but are clearly "insane*.

They are also driving me insane because the drop rate appears significantly lower than even the most difficult monster trophies, given the number of those I've ground out.

Finally, the largest issue here that I see is running into the loot-drop cap to prevent farming. As far as I'm aware, you can only receive loot drops from a certain number of mobs in a row, and watchinglings are almost always found in packs large enough to trigger this condition. (To elaborate, pulling multiple add packs together in a public dungeon and aoeing provides less loot than taking one pack, waiting, taking the second, waiting, and taking the third. Afaik

Whatever the case, this is clearly an outsized problem affecting the entirety of a section of the playerbase. This is more mindnumbing than the 30 runs of RoM it took to get my kilt lead. At least that was significant, and specifically group, content.

barney2525

RitualSmoke wrote: »

anyone confirm this dropping? killed well over a hundred watchlings and nothing

yer gonna hear from their Union

mattaeus01b16_ESO

This lead is killing me. I started it a week after High Isle dropped. And have spent many days aggressively farming it.
Have all watchers marked in Deadlands. Atoll has been decimated many many MANY times. Farmed Cauldron normal and vet.
WHO DO I HAVE TO SACRAFICE TO GET THE LEAD!!?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

2000+ watchlings killed and I still don't have the lead.

Dragkiris

I got the lead a couple day ago. Took me about 4 hours total and that was with a friend helping me spam the watching portals so they kept coming and coming.

KlauthWarthog

Farmed it for several hours, several times since high isle released, then... got it on the second watchling I killed when I got in there today.
This lead is, basically, a glorified lottery. Horrible design.

patricknl76

Its in the same category as the southern elsweyr portal lead . After 1 week riding around 1 hour each day and not seeing a single portal . At least the watchlings you see . But getting a lead from a source that i havent even seen yet is actually even worse . And after 15 runs of sunspire and no lead , im completely done with the lead system.