unique npc dialogue based on the player's race choice!!!

Browiseth

i feel like we need way more of this even if i am always pleasantly surprised every time it happens. what race-specific npc dialogue have you seen in your travels?

RedTalon

Browiseth wrote: »

i feel like we need way more of this even if i am always pleasantly surprised every time it happens. what race-specific npc dialogue have you seen in your travels?

There is a very big race based one for orcs, yo can become leader of clan bbut yes are so few of them

Peacatcher

The one that comes to mind is a Bosmer merchant in the Mournhold crafting area, she normally says something snappy like 'what, have you never seen a wood elf before?'. But if you speak to her on a wood elf character she changes it to something like 'good to see another Bosmer in these parts'.

I also remember some of the Summerset main quest dialogue being different if you play it as an Altmer (which I did the first time I did the quest line). I can't remember any specific lines but I think the Canonreeve at Rellenthil has some different lines when you do the quest to investigate the sinkhole, he's much warmer towards the player than if you're playing as a different race.

Mr_Stach

Argonian in Morrowind, Sadrith Mora have some dialog about Argonian Slaves during the "Hireling of House Telvanni" Questline

Aztrias

I have noticed some unique dialouge while playing Argonians but never experience it with Dunmer apart from som very minor instances. Dark Elves never being recognized as their own race is a meme in the Elder Scrolls series at this point
A lot of people trying to justify Bethesda's laziness with the whole "outlander" thing, but most people who play Dark Elves probably want their characters to be from Morrowind area and not Cyrodiil(you're not treated as a Dark Elf on the mainland and you're an "outlander" on Vvardenfell)


Though irl when I visit my grandmother's rural village, I get refered to as "city-people" because my accent is very different, maybe Dunmer take that stuff to the extreme

mocap

yeah, it all started with Orsinium (obviously when you play ork). Player can even become a clan leader if ork.

Though players wrote on this forum in old threads, that most of that things ends something like this:

- you ork, cool, but you are an outsider, so get lost! lol
- you dunmer, but you still n'wah for us, so go to oblivion! xd
- you altmer, but you weren't born on Summerset, so... yeah

UntilValhalla13

The silt strider caravaneer in Vivec city will comment positively if you're a dark elf. She's not really a fan of foreigners.

Ermiq

Captain Rana on Bleakrock island has different responses when you ask her about EP races and if you're one of these races she will give a different answer.
For example, if you're a Nord, she will say "A Nord asking me about Nords? Very clever, for a Nord. You people impress me, ...".

IIRC, the very first NPC we meet in Murkmire has a special response if you're Argonian and you ask her about Argonian culture stuff. Her reaction will be somewhat like "Well, it's quite uncommon that you, Argonian, don't know about that".

Caupo

Well, my imperial templar takes great offense whenever an NPC says to him: "You dont look imperial." First they should fix these dialogues, and only then make new ones

WhiteCoatSyndrome

IIRC there’s a quest in Stonefalls where you have to go to shrines for each Tribunal member, and if you ask about the Tribunal while playing a Dunmer the NPC is like, ‘what child of Morrowind doesn’t already know this?’

Dragonlord573

Meanwhile we also have

"What's a Saxhleel?"

"What's a Hist?"

From an Argonian.

Or my favorite, "dry skin savages" from Nah-Kesh. To Argonians.

Dragonlord573

Caupo wrote: »

Well, my imperial templar takes great offense whenever an NPC says to him: "You dont look imperial." First they should fix these dialogues, and only then make new ones

My favorite part of doing the Alikr zone quest was an NPC telling my Argonian he doesn't look like a lizard.

Mythgard1967

RedTalon wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

i feel like we need way more of this even if i am always pleasantly surprised every time it happens. what race-specific npc dialogue have you seen in your travels?

There is a very big race based one for orcs, yo can become leader of clan bbut yes are so few of them

Now I want to play an orc.....

Mr_Stach

I mean, with exposition on something your Race SHOULD know is still kind on necessary, as you the player still need to be informed.

HOWEVER

They could still provide that Exposition in a better way depending on your Race, such as instead of

"WHAT IS HIST" as an Argonian

You could for the example in Stonefalls "How is your Hist fairing outside of the Marsh?" show a little bit more concern, then the response could be "As you know, bla bla hist stuff"

They could just tweak things ever so slightly so your character feels a little more a part of the world, instead of just visiting.

SydneyGrey

If you begin the Orsinium quest-line as an Orc, the Orc woman who takes you to Wrothgar says something about being glad to see another Orc in that area. I thought that was a nice touch.

Obs1dian

The Summerset main quest and the questline at the college in Auridon both do, which makes sense since they both deal with racism in the Aldmeri Dominion.

AcadianPaladin

As @Obs1dian said above, the dialogue at the Auridon college changes based on your race. Here's how headmaster Tanion greets you based on your race: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Tanion

Czeri

Doesn't the public dungeon quest in Alik'r offer an extra option to Redguards? I only remember it vaguely, but I think I was able to skip a step or something...

joerginger

Yes, I think you could say that as a Redguard you are worthy of the item at the end of the quest (not sure what it actually was), so you didn't need to fight for it.

Necrotech_Master

Czeri wrote: »

Doesn't the public dungeon quest in Alik'r offer an extra option to Redguards? I only remember it vaguely, but I think I was able to skip a step or something...

it does

the NPC you do the quest for is researching history of the people and at the end when you talk to the spirit if you are a redguard you can claim the right of blood to take the treasure instead of the other 2 options which is a little less work

Marginis

There are a few places where being a khajiit is relevant, but honestly most just kind of pass me by, because they're a bit vague, and I'm not quite sure if they're actually NPC-being-racist unique lines or if the NPC is just a jerk to everyone and I'm the jerk for assuming it's a race thing.

I do remember there are a few quests in Vvardenfell that DEFINITELY knew I was a khajiit though. Well, khajiit/argonian. The dialogue was very possibly the same for both races in at least that instance.

Czeri

There is one class-related dialogue option I remember from Elseweyr, in Abode of Ignominy. As a necro you get to tell Narama-ko that resurrecting a frog is indeed necromancy.

Mr_Stach

Czeri wrote: »

There is one class-related dialogue option I remember from Elseweyr, in Abode of Ignominy. As a necro you get to tell Narama-ko that resurrecting a frog is indeed necromancy.

Yeah, she's like how would you know.

Lady, I AM a Necromancer. Undeading things is literally what Necros do

Drammanoth

Never has my char's race been addressed (Imperial), so yeah... Other races have sometimes been acknowledged, sure. But there is another issue.

Why does Verandis not acknowledge when the Vestige is a vampire him/herself?

When a werewofl, only Papa Hircine and some of his followers recognise the manbeast nature. Molly Bally's offspring? Bah, cold-blooded ***...

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Dragonlord573 wrote: »

Meanwhile we also have

"What's a Saxhleel?"

"What's a Hist?"

From an Argonian.

Somebody is veeeery lukiul.

DivineKitty

One Nord guy near Kynesgrove looks at you like someone dropped you on your head as a child if you, as a Nord, Ask him who Kyne is. He says something like "What, were you raised by Dark Eves or something?"

NotaDaedraWorshipper

The base game was bad at this. There was some instances of race recognition but there was far more without. Then with dlcs they got better, but it feels like in the latest dlcs they have gotten worse at it again.

I remember how annoying it was doing DC zones on an imperial.... No recognition at all and sooo many remarks towards imperials. Even by Emeric straight to my face

Czeri

I remember the first time I played EP zones as an Argonian, I was shocked by how often I heard NPCs make snide remarks about Argonians. Not to me, but around me. Since then I was wondering if they were actually more common if you play as an Argonian, or I was just more aware of them...

Ragnarok0130

Drammanoth wrote: »

Never has my char's race been addressed (Imperial), so yeah... Other races have sometimes been acknowledged, sure. But there is another issue.

Why does Verandis not acknowledge when the Vestige is a vampire him/herself?

When a werewofl, only Papa Hircine and some of his followers recognise the manbeast nature. Molly Bally's offspring? Bah, cold-blooded ***...

My Imperial Vampires agree wholeheartedly

seecodenotgames

I remember there was a quest in the Alik'r where your character asks if they will be cursed and the NPC says something like: "you are a Redguard, but you are not from the Alik'r, so no curse."
I always found this odd, that he knows where my character is from before they became the vestige. Like, how do you know I'm not from the Alik'r originally?

Ratzkifal

mocap wrote: »

yeah, it all started with Orsinium (obviously when you play ork). Player can even become a clan leader if ork.

Though players wrote on this forum in old threads, that most of that things ends something like this:

- you ork, cool, but you are an outsider, so get lost! lol
- you dunmer, but you still n'wah for us, so go to oblivion! xd
- you altmer, but you weren't born on Summerset, so... yeah

Actually there is an example of this in the basegame already. The woodelf blacksmith in Mournhold reacts to you being a woodelf.
In Summerset, when they explain how marriage works, they explain it differently to other high elves, more of a "you know how it is with high elf marriage" as if you are already supposed to know. This is how things should be written all the time to be honest. Why do Dunmer need to ask who Azura or Vivec are?