Radiant Apex Rewards

Rishikesa108

I can't believe that these items cost different amounts of gems (2500 for the horse, 1200 for the senche, 1600 for the spider), but they all cost 16.000 seals of endeavor !!!! What does that mean ??? The horse is more than double gems, but it is the same amount of seals ! Please let us pay LESS seals for the senche and for the spider. It is not fair !!!!

ZeroDPS

+1

ZeroDPS

do not try to find logic on Earth planet guys....

Dragonnord

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Rishikesa108

ZeroDPS wrote: »

do not try to find logic on Earth planet guys....

It is not a question of logic, but of fairness

Rishikesa108

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Everyone is free to think as they like and express their opinion, but following your thinking, then it should be fair to equalize the gem prices of the Radiant Apex Rewards and they should all cost 2500 gems equally. Never let it be that there might be too many of them out there, with all the Ouroboros Crates earning just by viewing Twitch Videos ... !!! Here too it's easy to earn them, isn't it?

ZeroDPS

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

ZeroDPS wrote: »

do not try to find logic on Earth planet guys....

It is not a question of logic, but of fairness

logic, common sense, fairness hope you got my point

Gandalf_72

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

I can't believe that these items cost different amounts of gems (2500 for the horse, 1200 for the senche, 1600 for the spider), but they all cost 16.000 seals of endeavor !!!! What does that mean ??? The horse is more than double gems, but it is the same amount of seals ! Please let us pay LESS seals for the senche and for the spider. It is not fair !!!!

It makes sense and is reasonable!

ZeroDPS

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

220-250 per week 45 per day = 2150 per month, so you can have 50k seals(which is a couple of good items) after 2 years.....

2 YEARS CARL!!!!!
are you masochist @Dragonnord

Dragonnord

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Everyone is free to think as they like and express their opinion, but following your thinking, then it should be fair to equalize the gem prices of the Radiant Apex Rewards and they should all cost 2500 gems equally. Never let it be that there might be too many of them out there, with all the Ouroboros Crates earning just by viewing Twitch Videos ... !!! Here too it's easy to earn them, isn't it?

About the gems difference, that's on ZOS. They may have a reason as to why they make a difference and select some mounts more exclusive than others. And, in fact, they may be right because people tend to like or want more (usually at least) the ones ZOS select as the more expensive.

And about the Ouroboros crates, no it's not the same, because the RNG to obtain the Ouroboros scarlet mount and pet is ultra high. I know people that have opened crates for years and still are missing one or the other, or both.

Lady_Galadhiel

Dragonnord wrote: »

And about the Ouroboros crates, no it's not the same, because the RNG to obtain the Ouroboros scarlet mount and pet is ultra high. I know people that have opened crates for years and still are missing one or the other, or both.

Compared to radiant mounts, the chances to get the Ouroboros mount and pet is indeed ultra high.I got the scarlet senche already 2 times on EU, 2 times on Na server and the pet 3 times in total.

Rishikesa108

Dragonnord wrote: »

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Everyone is free to think as they like and express their opinion, but following your thinking, then it should be fair to equalize the gem prices of the Radiant Apex Rewards and they should all cost 2500 gems equally. Never let it be that there might be too many of them out there, with all the Ouroboros Crates earning just by viewing Twitch Videos ... !!! Here too it's easy to earn them, isn't it?

About the gems difference, that's on ZOS. They may have a reason as to why they make a difference and select some mounts more exclusive than others. And, in fact, they may be right because people tend to like or want more (usually at least) the ones ZOS select as the more expensive.

And about the Ouroboros crates, no it's not the same, because the RNG to obtain the Ouroboros scarlet mount and pet is ultra high. I know people that have opened crates for years and still are missing one or the other, or both.

What does that mean ? I'm not speaking about scarlet mounts or pets.. I'm speaking about the gems you ever get with Ouroboros Crates (gem extraction). That is an easy way to gain gems... so (following your crazy thought) we want a higher price in gems for radiant apex items, because it's easy to get gems. That is a crazy way to think... but thank you for showing us your way-to-do-things

Dragonnord

ZeroDPS wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

220-250 per week 45 per day = 2150 per month, so you can have 50k seals(which is a couple of good items) after 2 years.....

2 YEARS CARL!!!!!
are you masochist @Dragonnord

It's not me, it just that that's exactly how Endavors are expected to work if you haven't realized about it yet.

Dragonnord

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Everyone is free to think as they like and express their opinion, but following your thinking, then it should be fair to equalize the gem prices of the Radiant Apex Rewards and they should all cost 2500 gems equally. Never let it be that there might be too many of them out there, with all the Ouroboros Crates earning just by viewing Twitch Videos ... !!! Here too it's easy to earn them, isn't it?

About the gems difference, that's on ZOS. They may have a reason as to why they make a difference and select some mounts more exclusive than others. And, in fact, they may be right because people tend to like or want more (usually at least) the ones ZOS select as the more expensive.

And about the Ouroboros crates, no it's not the same, because the RNG to obtain the Ouroboros scarlet mount and pet is ultra high. I know people that have opened crates for years and still are missing one or the other, or both.

What does that mean ? I'm not speaking about scarlet mounts or pets.. I'm speaking about the gems you ever get with Ouroboros Crates (gem extraction). That is an easy way to gain gems... so (following your crazy thought) we want a higher price in gems for radiant apex items, because it's easy to get gems. That is a crazy way to think... but thank you for showing us your way-to-do-things

No, because Endavors are daily and weekly, non-stop, so you are constantly getting Endeavors, while gems you get from Ouroboros crates are once in a while (sometimes not even one crate in weeks), and usually you get just a few gems each time you open a crate.

The amount of gems you get from Ouroboros crates per month is minimum, nothing almost, compared to the amount of Endeavors you get monthly.

Zorrin

The gem exclusive stuff makes equally as little sense. Like the horse we just had was 8,000 seals like an apex mount, but 600 gems when apex mounts cost 400? Why

Rishikesa108

Dragonnord wrote: »

No, because Endavors are daily and weekly, non-stop, so you are constantly getting Endeavors, while gems you get from Ouroboros crates are once in a while (sometimes not even one crate in weeks), and usually you get just a few gems each time you open a crate.

The amount of gems you get from Ouroboros crates per month is minimum, nothing almost, compared to the amount of Endeavors you get monthly.

This applies to you, not everyone. I find tons of videos that give Twitch drops, so it's really easy to get gems, a few at a time. Get informed :-)

Rishikesa108

Zorrin wrote: »

The gem exclusive stuff makes equally as little sense. Like the horse we just had was 8,000 seals like an apex mount, but 600 gems when apex mounts cost 400? Why

Little bit different, dear.
Surfglow Courser = 2500 gems = 16.000 seals
Cat O' War Senche Lion = 1200 gems = 16.000 seals
Coral Crawler Dwarven Spider = 1600 gems = 16.000 seals

Dragonnord

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

No, because Endavors are daily and weekly, non-stop, so you are constantly getting Endeavors, while gems you get from Ouroboros crates are once in a while (sometimes not even one crate in weeks), and usually you get just a few gems each time you open a crate.

The amount of gems you get from Ouroboros crates per month is minimum, nothing almost, compared to the amount of Endeavors you get monthly.

This applies to you, not everyone. I find tons of videos that give Twitch drops, so it's really easy to get gems, a few at a time. Get informed :-)

That's not true, because drops happen only when ZOS enables them due to a particular event, special week or because of something specific.

Nowadays is rare to see drops enabled. You get Ouroboros crates once in a while.

Don't even try to compare the amount of gems you get from Ouroboros crates to Endeavors because they are miles away one from each other.
 

Molydeus

Endeavors are eazy peazy to get, and free.

Zorrin

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Zorrin wrote: »

The gem exclusive stuff makes equally as little sense. Like the horse we just had was 8,000 seals like an apex mount, but 600 gems when apex mounts cost 400? Why

Little bit different, dear.
Surfglow Courser = 2500 gems = 16.000 seals
Cat O' War Senche Lion = 1200 gems = 16.000 seals
Coral Crawler Dwarven Spider = 1600 gems = 16.000 seals

Not really different, just another inconsistency.

Dagoth_Rac

There is literally no limit on how many gems you can get (if you are willing to pay) so ZOS try to drain whales of gems in order to make them want to buy more crates. Whereas there is a limit on seals. You can only accumulate so many in so much time. There are steady, consistent prices in seals because there is a steady, consistent accumulation rate for seals. There are no "seal whales" with insane amounts of seals far beyond other players.

SilverIce58

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

No, because Endavors are daily and weekly, non-stop, so you are constantly getting Endeavors, while gems you get from Ouroboros crates are once in a while (sometimes not even one crate in weeks), and usually you get just a few gems each time you open a crate.

The amount of gems you get from Ouroboros crates per month is minimum, nothing almost, compared to the amount of Endeavors you get monthly.

This applies to you, not everyone. I find tons of videos that give Twitch drops, so it's really easy to get gems, a few at a time. Get informed :-)

That applies to you, not everyone. Not everyone has the time to just endlessly search and find twitch streams all day just for some measly crown gems.

Gandalf_72

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

LITERALLY NOTHING ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



Endeavors are are a lot of fun and I like them...
but every day I have not to literally do nothing to earn them !!!

Gandalf_72

5 stone atronach endeavor

Noisivid

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

Then shouldn't they all be the same amount of gems also? just for consistency

this is my obligatory "kill the crown store" comment, "the horse is dead Jim."

BahometZ

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

I can't believe that these items cost different amounts of gems (2500 for the horse, 1200 for the senche, 1600 for the spider), but they all cost 16.000 seals of endeavor !!!! What does that mean ??? The horse is more than double gems, but it is the same amount of seals ! Please let us pay LESS seals for the senche and for the spider. It is not fair !!!!

Shhh! Or they'll increase the amount of endeavor points needed for the higher mounts. Because you know that's what they'll do.

I feel like it might be an oversight at the moment, but it is a nifty way to budget which top tier mount you'll get.
Use gems on the cheaper mounts that you like. Use endeavor points for the 2500 mount.

Just trying to make out as well as I can in the system they've give us.

FlopsyPrince

Dragonnord wrote: »

ZeroDPS wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I don't agree because you have to literally do nothing to earn Endeavors. You just need to do ultra basic easy stuff daily and eventually you'll have a lot of Endavors.

I have 20.000 Endavors already and at this pace, if I don't spend them, I'll have 50.000, then 100.000...

And so, with your proposal of lowering the prices, I then will be able to buy a huge amount of Radiant Apex's, and it shouldn't work that way.

So nope, I don't agree with your request.

220-250 per week 45 per day = 2150 per month, so you can have 50k seals(which is a couple of good items) after 2 years.....

2 YEARS CARL!!!!!
are you masochist @Dragonnord

It's not me, it just that that's exactly how Endavors are expected to work if you haven't realized about it yet.

I would not have been camping a WB in Murkmire normally. I have plenty of other things to take up my time. Your assumption is incorrect.

Commandment

Well ZOS can remove endeavors and you can not get free items.

I'm honestly just happy I can get free crown gem item without having to buy 20+boxes.

merpins

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

I can't believe that these items cost different amounts of gems (2500 for the horse, 1200 for the senche, 1600 for the spider), but they all cost 16.000 seals of endeavor !!!! What does that mean ??? The horse is more than double gems, but it is the same amount of seals ! Please let us pay LESS seals for the senche and for the spider. It is not fair !!!!

ZoS: "We heard you were upset about the Seals of Endeavor prices not matching the gem cost in the Cash Shop. In response, we've decided to rectify this issue. Now, it will cost 16,000 seals for the lowest tier Radiant Apex Mount, 20,000 for the middle tier Radiant Apex Mount, and 25,000 for the high tier Radiant Apex Mount. We hope that this change to the price points makes more intuitive sense for players.
Best Regards, Zenimax. XOXO"

Don't complain too hard, or Zos will pull this bull and say we asked for it.

renne

Commandment wrote: »

Well ZOS can remove endeavors and you can not get free items.

I don't think they can, actually.

wolfie1.0.

renne wrote: »

Commandment wrote: »

Well ZOS can remove endeavors and you can not get free items.

I don't think they can, actually.

They can so long as they prevent you from buying crown crates in the regions that have the laws that restrict such things. Microsoft could give them an exception to their policies, laws could change, they could risk the fines, etc. Can't is too strong a word. Extremely unlikely is better.