Well....how is it now?

Maintenance for the week of March 24:
• PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – March 24, 4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 10:00AM EDT (14:00 UTC)
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – March 26, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• Playstation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – March 26, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
  • NoxiousBlight
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    Taking me 4-5 minutes to change zones, no lie. Normally it takes mere seconds on my computer. Something is definitely extra broken right now after today's maintenance.
  • ZOS_Kevin
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    Hi All,

    Listed an update on the queue and login time issue here.
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  • Crismac
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    Thanks, Kevin just saw that.
  • xXSilverDragonXx
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    So I couldn't logout my last character. It was like I didn't click logout. I had to crash the game.
  • Tenthirty2
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    Ok, so at 11:24a EST
    1. Started game to login screen, 20 seconds
    2. Character select screen, another 5 seconds (not bad so far)
    3. Chose character, loaded into HotLC in about 10 seconds? (really good)
    4. Manged mail and bank, exited to Rimmen 8 seconds!
    5. Did daily writs, fought frosty dragon then zappy dragon, all very responsive, no lag.
    6. Third and final frosty dragon at 11:54a, lag obvious, skills taking 1-2 seconds to fire, dragon attack animation and ACTUAL attack out of sync by 1-2 seconds. Maybe 10 ppl at fight?
    7. Saw someone post to zone chat that emer maintenance was announced for 12pm EST.
    8. Ported back to HotLC, logged out.
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  • Lumenn
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Listed an update on the queue and login time issue here.

    Cool beans 👍 I play PC and Xbox na. While Xbox isn't as bad it's definitely working it's way up there, same issues, just haven't received the patch yet. So might want to start investing consoles as well as PC eu before they flood the forums after the patch.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Galbsadi wrote: »
    Here's how it's working:

    Been seeing this screen for about 20 minutes now, with the same '1 second' estimate the whole time.

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    We get that from time to time on console
    Clicking back then loging in again usualy solve it
    Try it if you're still stuck it may or ay not solve your issue
    Edited by Dark_Lord_Kuro on March 21, 2022 4:19PM
  • DigiAngel
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    Thank you @ZOS_Kevin. I do have a few questions:
    1. What was the issue?
    2. Has the resolution and fix been documented to avoid in the future?
    3. If this didn't show up in PTS, why didn't it? If it did, why did the patch get applied?

    To be real honest, I don't expect an answer to any of these questions. I realize that it takes a large amount of courage and humility to admit fault....and frankly I don't know if ZOS has those qualities. Thanks again...here's hoping to playing later today.
  • duagloth
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    Edited by duagloth on March 21, 2022 4:35PM
  • ShawnLaRock
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    I think they have to shut servers down and redo maint.

    Nailed it.

    S.
  • virtus753
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    DigiAngel wrote: »
    Thank you @ZOS_Kevin. I do have a few questions:
    1. What was the issue?
    2. Has the resolution and fix been documented to avoid in the future?
    3. If this didn't show up in PTS, why didn't it? If it did, why did the patch get applied?

    To be real honest, I don't expect an answer to any of these questions. I realize that it takes a large amount of courage and humility to admit fault....and frankly I don't know if ZOS has those qualities. Thanks again...here's hoping to playing later today.

    Gina said here that the instability on PC-NA since U33 wouldn't have been identified on the PTS:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7541604#Comment_7541604

    Still no word on what "the issue" is, though, as far as I can see.
  • DigiAngel
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    Thanks....now that I see that, I do remember seeing that post.
  • Jaraal
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    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    COMEDY GOLD:
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    Had to double check my calendar to make sure it's not actually April 1st.
  • normster11
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    Man, came back to the game this week, took today off of work to play all weekend for the event. I guess I will have to go outside. Crap!
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    normster11 wrote: »
    Man, came back to the game this week, took today off of work to play all weekend for the event. I guess I will have to go outside. Crap!

    Oh well, at least you're not two days away from retirement...
    I don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]
  • majulook
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7541604#Comment_7541604

    This post make me wonder:

    1. Is PTS a copy of the existing Live server current state , which is then updated to the test patch?

    2. If its not what exactly is it that make them believe its a viable test environment?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • Kirawolfe
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    Oh well, at least you're not two days away from retirement...

    Congrats!
  • Arunei
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    majulook wrote: »
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7541604#Comment_7541604

    This post make me wonder:

    1. Is PTS a copy of the existing Live server current state , which is then updated to the test patch?

    2. If its not what exactly is it that make them believe its a viable test environment?
    The PTS isn't a copy of the live server, it's a separate one they copy account information to every time a new DLC/Chapter is being worked on. You can see this if you like by logging into the PTS (if you're EU, which I think is the region it's on now, if you're NA then you won't have your account copied over), it won't match your live account. It only has the account data it last copied for whichever region it's on at any given time. Unless this is what you were asking and I misunderstood.

    As for your other question, I'm willing to bet it's because there's never enough people on the PTS to actually stress-test things. Consoles don't have access to it and neither do people who play on Stadia, and a lot of people don't even have it installed because it takes up as much space as the live game. Out of those of us who CAN use the PTS, a lot of people tend not to because we rarely see any response from ZOS to feedback and bugs. It makes it feel like the testing is a waste of time, so most people just test things immediately relevant to their builds or play style. Whatever is causing these issues, it probably couldn't be found on the PTS because of a lack of people using it.
    Edited by Arunei on March 21, 2022 5:23PM
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  • DigiAngel
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    Thanks...that makes a lot of sense. As of now, seems like PTS is a dev environment...which is better then nothing I suppose.
  • majulook
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    Arunei wrote: »
    The PTS isn't a copy of the live server, it's a separate one they copy information to every time a new DLC/Chapter is being worked on. You can see this if you like by logging into the PTS (if you're EU, which I think is the region it's on now, if you're NA then you won't have your account copied over), it won't match your live account. It only has the account data it last copied for whichever region it's on at any given time.

    As for your other question, I'm willing to bet it's because there's never enough people on the PTS to actually stress-test things. Consoles don't have access to it and neither do people who play on Stadia, and a lot of people don't even have it installed because it takes up as much space as the live game. Out of those of us who CAN use the PTS, a lot of people tend not to because we rarely see any response from ZOS to feedback and bugs. It makes it feel like the testing is a waste of time, so most people just test things immediately relevant to their builds or play style. Whatever is causing these issues, it probably couldn't be found on the PTS because of a lack of people using it.

    TY for the info.

    I always thought they used a "current live server state" then just with out user data and then copied over the user region they were testing.

    If that's not what they are doing meaning its not a copy of the Live environment (with out users) then how can they reasonably expect that they have a proper test environment for changes?

    If i maintained my data centers like that I would quickly be replaced. Tho' that would explain the amount of hiring they are looking for.
    Edited by majulook on March 21, 2022 5:54PM
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  • goldenarcher1
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    PC-EU server next Monday..... :#

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  • shadyjane62
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    Hoping it will be better. Not sure how it could be worse. OOPS! Jinxed!
  • majulook
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    Hoping it will be better. Not sure how it could be worse. OOPS! Jinxed!

    ROTFLMAO
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • Jaraal
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    And to think: we sacrificed all that time played on our alts.... for this?


    Perhaps this is Auri-El's way of voicing their displeasure. A sort of Tamriellic karma, if you will.
  • Seravi
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    Sadly this is just to fix an issue from earlier maint today. Has nothing to do with all the other issues we've put up with all last week. :(

    Per Mr Kevin: NOTE: Edited to clarify that we are addressing an issue from today's maintenance. However, we will continue to follow up on other issues players have been experiencing.
  • DigiAngel
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    Welp....how we looking folks....good, better, best?
  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    I'm still disconnecting and having long loadscreens.
  • MasterWarrior
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    I am logged in, not very hopeful. It took about a minute pressing E to take attachments from my mail to me receiving them.
    It might have been 2 minutes
  • Gederic
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    My log in was only about 30 seconds, and load times between zones have been short. However, the 5 guilds I was in are apparently gone, mail isn't working, zone chats reporting group finder still is broken... Great
    Ours is the Fury
  • bighamancheese
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    Im still having the really long loading screen and when I goto log out it takes forever to remove me from the game.
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