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Tamriel Once

dzugarueb17_ESO
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In all other Elder Scrolls games when I press the New Game button I dont have half a map already done (painted white).

ESO could be replayed from scratch yesterday, painting all map from black to white once again. I loved doing that, just as I love replaying TES3,4,5 now and then. Today - its impossible (not to mention a number of quests and interactions bugged on alts because main did it before). Today it ceased to be the Elder Scrolls game for me.

We had insane 90+ pages thread about this, and zero communication from ZOS about the problem. Here it is:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/596970/pts-update-33-feedback-thread-for-account-wide-achievements
But this didn't get much coverage at all. Why? I don't know. I guess we just lost.

Goodbye.
Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 14, 2022 4:50PM
  • Saieden
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    Yup, welcome all to (forced) New Game Minus.
  • Kesstryl
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    I wonder how long it will be before they lock this thread and direct us to the PTS Feedback thread that THEY ALWAYS IGNORE!
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  • xclassgaming
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    Kesstryl wrote: »
    I wonder how long it will be before they lock this thread and direct us to the PTS Feedback thread that THEY ALWAYS IGNORE!

    Incorrect, that is what the thread is for.
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  • proprio.meb16_ESO
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    Since it's live now we can write on the official feedback thread (which will be ignored) here in the general forum... it's so sad

    here it is: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/599867/ascending-tide-feedback-thread#latest
    Edited by proprio.meb16_ESO on March 14, 2022 3:12PM
  • SeaGtGruff
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    ESO could be replayed from scratch yesterday, painting all map from black to white once again.

    Not exactly. Every new character started with certain wayshrines already white and available for use-- two in each alliance (in the starter zone and in the first zone), and one in each DLC zone or chapter. Plus, any player housing you'd bought on other characters would already be white. Then there are all the guild trader icons, which I think might also have been white. So "all map from black to white" isn't quite right.

    I mean, I know what you meant, and those particular "already white" icons might not have meant that much to you. But when I first logged onto the PC EU server a few years ago to create a character for the Summerset Pathfinder event and saw the map without all of the player housing I owned on PC NA, it was wonderful-- except for having to buy them all over again, of course.

    I actually wish there were a filter to hide all of those "already known" icons on a new character until the character has actually discovered them.
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    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.
    Edited by Khami on March 14, 2022 3:42PM
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Khami wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.

    A fair challenge.

    By the way, where DOES one leave Raz to die, optionally or otherwise? I've never seen that myself, although it gets mentoned from time to time.
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    Khami wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.

    A fair challenge.

    By the way, where DOES one leave Raz to die, optionally or otherwise? I've never seen that myself, although it gets mentoned from time to time.

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  • Ugh_Tech
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    Khami wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.

    A fair challenge.

    By the way, where DOES one leave Raz to die, optionally or otherwise? I've never seen that myself, although it gets mentoned from time to time.
    The quest is called 'Gates of Fire' and takes place in Reaper's March (Senalana).
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    Khami wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.

    A fair challenge.

    By the way, where DOES one leave Raz to die, optionally or otherwise? I've never seen that myself, although it gets mentoned from time to time.

    It's been a while but I think it's the area marked as Senalana in Reapers March.
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    Khami wrote: »
    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.
    Doesn't force... you're right it should be optional, and in both directions.

    In every game (comprising every MMO i know) you can start a character from scratch, as if it's the first time you play, except, apparently, in ESO...
    Edited by proprio.meb16_ESO on March 14, 2022 4:02PM
  • old_scopie1945
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    Khami wrote: »
    Jaraal wrote: »
    It's a sad day for The Elder Scrolls. First TES game you can't play over from scratch, with a fresh slate to write your new story.

    What new story? You mean when I left Raz to die only for him to show up in Dune. Story that gives choices only to have those choices not mean anything later? Story no matter how you do it is the same, nothing new about it.

    This is a MMO, not a single player game. One that doesn't forces you to start from the very beginning as a new player. One you're not forced to run the story in a liner fashion. It's been a disjointed story since One Tamriel.

    Wrong, it is an MMORPG, guess what RPG stands for. Your play style is not the only one. There are many play styles for many different players. Read the thread on the PTS, it may open your eyes.
  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    Because there is a thread already open on this topic, we're going to close this one down so that all feedback can be consolidated in one place. You may continue the discussion here.

    Thank you for your understanding.
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