Apologies if this is covered elsewhere in a thread or I haven't quite understood the ZOS Q&A.
Given that Account Wide Achievements seem to be definitely happening (hopefully with the bugs ironed out), I was wondering:
1. Is there anything that people recommend we might do with/on characters in advance of AwA being deployed?
2. When Update 33 has been deployed, is there a recommended order in which we should log in our characters? For example, my sorcerer damage dealer (character S) is my main and is the one that I have been especially working on to get achievements. My templar healer (character T) has some achievements that S does not have. If I want to try to preserve S still being my main, should I log onto them in a particular order or doesn't it matter?
3. If (say) S has got the Moongrave Fane Conqueror achievement and T has got the Lair of Maarselok Conqueror achievement, when the update drops and I log in both characters, will the Scalebreaker Delver achievement trigger awarding the dye and outfit style? And who gets the "earned by" tag?
Thanks in advance.
There's more concerns than just the bugs although that is a big part of it....
The concern with Account-Wide achievements are the bugs.... Complete museum quests before the update goes live and then you’re fine.
@Comrade_Ogilvy i'm pretty sure is wrong about point 2.
I would recommend logging in your "primary alt" first
then your main
then the rest of your alts
the first character you login will not get the combined achievements allocated to them, they will be exactly the same as on live
the second character you login will combine the first characters achievements to theirs, so if you have 60% of a slayer achievement on the first character and 50% on the second, the second will "earn" the achievement.
if both those characters had the same achievement, say stormproof, then the earned by will be whoever earned it first by date. this will continue to update as you login all your characters.
The issues relating to having a "main" are more complex than anyone has described in this thread (nothing personal, please don't take offence).
TL;DR is that if you've been playing the game for any length of time in multiple characters, you will not be able to guarantee that characters don't get achievement earned by you don't them to have, unless you basically never log in with those characters again after the update. Remember, any earlier achievement date on a character will overwrite a newer date the first time you log in with them.
Progressive achievements that are partially complete on several characters is more comolex. If you have 3 characters with varying amounts of mundane runes, basts and heartwoods on each, there is basically no way you will be able to get all of them on one toon by simply logging in in a different order. For example, if toon A and B have 500/1000 bast, and B and C have 500/1000 mundane runes. Extend this to monster trophies and meta achievements, and you'll see why I say this is impossible and, frankly, not worth your time.
The issues relating to having a "main" are more complex than anyone has described in this thread (nothing personal, please don't take offence).
TL;DR is that if you've been playing the game for any length of time in multiple characters, you will not be able to guarantee that characters don't get achievement earned by you don't them to have, unless you basically never log in with those characters again after the update. Remember, any earlier achievement date on a character will overwrite a newer date the first time you log in with them.
Progressive achievements that are partially complete on several characters is more comolex. If you have 3 characters with varying amounts of mundane runes, basts and heartwoods on each, there is basically no way you will be able to get all of them on one toon by simply logging in in a different order. For example, if toon A and B have 500/1000 bast, and B and C have 500/1000 mundane runes. Extend this to monster trophies and meta achievements, and you'll see why I say this is impossible and, frankly, not worth your time.
Humm probably due to lack of sleep (health issue), i think i am mixing a lot.
My *main* has 21690 achievements points
Then i have others characters but way below, and not higher than 5000.
In those I have my first NB, who just completed the central event IC (molag bal) when my main did not ....
Who do i log first ? or after ?
Sorry. I keep reading and the most i read the most i am lost
secondrowforward wrote: »I went for the ultimate option. On my two accounts I stripped all my characters and banked what I wanted to keep. Then all but one of my characters were deleted over the course of a week. Then on each of my two accounts I created a new vanilla character. I then stripped and banked the gear of my two old characters and deleted them. This left me with just the single vanilla characters on each account.
I then decided which account was going on standby and cancelled ESO plus for it. This leaves me with one 'live' account to play with to completion. I figure with two accounts with both EU and NA servers I will have four play throughs. Why the vanilla characters you may ask. For the simple reason I get to play with each for longer. I intend to not have any alts due to AWA.
Necrotech_Master wrote: »Humm probably due to lack of sleep (health issue), i think i am mixing a lot.
My *main* has 21690 achievements points
Then i have others characters but way below, and not higher than 5000.
In those I have my first NB, who just completed the central event IC (molag bal) when my main did not ....
Who do i log first ? or after ?
Sorry. I keep reading and the most i read the most i am lost
if "earned by" means anything to you, login order of toons only matters on "progress" achievements (kill X enemies like achievements, or meta/composite achievements)
so for example character A has 75/100 kills and character B has 25/100 kills
if you log in character B first, it will register 25/100 on your account achievement, then log in character A will complete the achievement and give them the "earned by"
if you logged in the reverse order (char A first then char B ), then "earned by" would go to char B
honestly they should have just left off the "earned by" thing since it makes no sense whatsoever if your tracking aggregate across your account
secondrowforward wrote: »I went for the ultimate option. On my two accounts I stripped all my characters and banked what I wanted to keep. Then all but one of my characters were deleted over the course of a week. Then on each of my two accounts I created a new vanilla character. I then stripped and banked the gear of my two old characters and deleted them. This left me with just the single vanilla characters on each account.
I then decided which account was going on standby and cancelled ESO plus for it. This leaves me with one 'live' account to play with to completion. I figure with two accounts with both EU and NA servers I will have four play throughs. Why the vanilla characters you may ask. For the simple reason I get to play with each for longer. I intend to not have any alts due to AWA.
This work i guess if you had not a crafter character.
On each of my accounts, i have the characters i play, and the character crafter. As ennoyed as i am of this new achievement system. i know i will not delete my character crafter. She learned all motifs. and can craft any set.
Arghh i hate this!! i love all my characters grrr
Necrotech_Master wrote: »Humm probably due to lack of sleep (health issue), i think i am mixing a lot.
My *main* has 21690 achievements points
Then i have others characters but way below, and not higher than 5000.
In those I have my first NB, who just completed the central event IC (molag bal) when my main did not ....
Who do i log first ? or after ?
Sorry. I keep reading and the most i read the most i am lost
if "earned by" means anything to you, login order of toons only matters on "progress" achievements (kill X enemies like achievements, or meta/composite achievements)
so for example character A has 75/100 kills and character B has 25/100 kills
if you log in character B first, it will register 25/100 on your account achievement, then log in character A will complete the achievement and give them the "earned by"
if you logged in the reverse order (char A first then char B ), then "earned by" would go to char B
honestly they should have just left off the "earned by" thing since it makes no sense whatsoever if your tracking aggregate across your account
Thank you:) feeling less lost seriously. I saw the delete .... but i realised that one of them is my main crafter. And i dont feel to have to farm again all motifs since lanch arghh.
Anyway thank you!!
secondrowforward wrote: »I went for the ultimate option. On my two accounts I stripped all my characters and banked what I wanted to keep. Then all but one of my characters were deleted over the course of a week. Then on each of my two accounts I created a new vanilla character. I then stripped and banked the gear of my two old characters and deleted them. This left me with just the single vanilla characters on each account.
I then decided which account was going on standby and cancelled ESO plus for it. This leaves me with one 'live' account to play with to completion. I figure with two accounts with both EU and NA servers I will have four play throughs. Why the vanilla characters you may ask. For the simple reason I get to play with each for longer. I intend to not have any alts due to AWA.
This work i guess if you had not a crafter character.
On each of my accounts, i have the characters i play, and the character crafter. As ennoyed as i am of this new achievement system. i know i will not delete my character crafter. She learned all motifs. and can craft any set.
Arghh i hate this!! i love all my characters grrr
On PC, my plan is to log in with each character before the update so that Kyoma's Global Achievements records what each has done, then rename the variables folder to back it up.
Then when the update goes live, I'll log in to each character one last time to consolidate all the achievements and then I'll log off and go play something else.
It'll be sad to leave after 8 years, but it will be sadder to stay.
On PC, my plan is to log in with each character before the update so that Kyoma's Global Achievements records what each has done, then rename the variables folder to back it up.
Then when the update goes live, I'll log in to each character one last time to consolidate all the achievements and then I'll log off and go play something else.
It'll be sad to leave after 8 years, but it will be sadder to stay.
If you're leaving over this, as I believe many will, why log in at all after it goes live? By aggregating the achievements you'll be committed to something you don't want, while leaving them alone you'll be leaving them intact in case ZOS decide at some point to row back on this. Chances are they wouldn't be able to restore aggregated accounts, but those which hadn't been aggregated would be as they were pre-Update 33. It's unlikely that they'll row back on it, but even so what would you be gaining by aggregating the achievements when you're leaving anyway?
On PC, my plan is to log in with each character before the update so that Kyoma's Global Achievements records what each has done, then rename the variables folder to back it up.
Then when the update goes live, I'll log in to each character one last time to consolidate all the achievements and then I'll log off and go play something else.
It'll be sad to leave after 8 years, but it will be sadder to stay.
If you're leaving over this, as I believe many will, why log in at all after it goes live? By aggregating the achievements you'll be committed to something you don't want, while leaving them alone you'll be leaving them intact in case ZOS decide at some point to row back on this. Chances are they wouldn't be able to restore aggregated accounts, but those which hadn't been aggregated would be as they were pre-Update 33. It's unlikely that they'll row back on it, but even so what would you be gaining by aggregating the achievements when you're leaving anyway?
On PC, my plan is to log in with each character before the update so that Kyoma's Global Achievements records what each has done, then rename the variables folder to back it up.
Then when the update goes live, I'll log in to each character one last time to consolidate all the achievements and then I'll log off and go play something else.
It'll be sad to leave after 8 years, but it will be sadder to stay.
If you're leaving over this, as I believe many will, why log in at all after it goes live? By aggregating the achievements you'll be committed to something you don't want, while leaving them alone you'll be leaving them intact in case ZOS decide at some point to row back on this. Chances are they wouldn't be able to restore aggregated accounts, but those which hadn't been aggregated would be as they were pre-Update 33. It's unlikely that they'll row back on it, but even so what would you be gaining by aggregating the achievements when you're leaving anyway?
Yep, that’s exactly my way of thinking. I do not want AwA at all so I figure if I don’t log in on anyone after, they’ll at least be preserved in their “correct” state.