Why is there an Orc in AD Eastern Gate?

atherusmora

Eric_Prince wrote: »

She's one of the good ones.

Or is she? Don’t be fooled by these Covenant and Pact dogs. She’s a spy I say!!

Cundu_Ertur

atherusmora wrote: »

Iron_Warrior wrote: »

There are a lot wood orc clans in the aldmeri story line in the woodelf territories and based of character dialouges a lot of them live in peace with wood elves, so it's not very strange to see one of these wood orcs has decided to help the dominion.

There you go, nothing immersion breaking.

Mmhmm and how do we know she’s a wood orc?

Build a bridge out of her?

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

It could actually be an elf heavily into the body modification.....

atherusmora

vsrs_au wrote: »

It could actually be an elf heavily into the body modification.....

Unfortunately, our Sapiarchs scholars have determined these Orismer are indeed elves, but they are the least of us- Goblin-kin if you ask me. Hmph. Their great ancestor, Trinimac, was gloriously corrupted by The Spider.

atherusmora

Sheezabeast wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

Mudcrabjedi wrote: »

If you're worried about breaking your immersion, you may want to look into pelinal whitestrake's lore lmfao.😂

One must give honor where honor is due. Though he laid low many of my ken, his power, and military genius was unparalleled. I would be a fool not to acknowledge the perfect splendor that is Pelinial Whitestrake!

But during the rebellion, he was the enemy of all Elves that lived in Cyrodiil...it's just ironic xD

Indeed, he was a formidable foe to be sure. If there is one thing that really gets my breeches in a twist is that The Divines would reward our devotion by unleashing such a devastating force on our people. Power like that should not have been so carelessly entrusted to Alessia and her infantile order of zealots. And what did it accomplish? Cyrodiil now lies in shambles and orcs are invading the the Eastern Gate!

fezarel

Don't worry. All races have their furries; this Orc got involved with a cute Khajiit and switched sides for love.

Faulgor

Orcs in particular live all over Tamriel. They don't really have an ancestral homeland like the others - that's why they are the pariah folk.

As mentioned, the Wood Orcs of Valenwood in particular are a noteworthy faction, so it's not strange at all to find some of them fighting for the Dominion. Neither would it be odd to find Orcs in the Pact, as Orcs have lived in Skyrim longer than the Nords.

Admittedly I don't think they have their allegiances in check, they should come to glorious Orsinium and serve in our Covenant, to crush the Elven *** whether high or dark. The Covenant carries the legacy of the second Empire, the only one that ever recognized Orcs as a proper people. You can see the disdain the Elves still have for Orcish kind in this very thread, suspecting their comrades of espionage just because of their heritage.

ADarklore

This reminds me of the quest "Wayward Dagger" in Auridon when you have to save the Orc defector... so it could be highly possible, and probable that we have other Orc defectors coming to join the AD.

atherusmora

Faulgor wrote: »

Orcs in particular live all over Tamriel. They don't really have an ancestral homeland like the others - that's why they are the pariah folk.

As mentioned, the Wood Orcs of Valenwood in particular are a noteworthy faction, so it's not strange at all to find some of them fighting for the Dominion. Neither would it be odd to find Orcs in the Pact, as Orcs have lived in Skyrim longer than the Nords.

Admittedly I don't think they have their allegiances in check, they should come to glorious Orsinium and serve in our Covenant, to crush the Elven *** whether high or dark. The Covenant carries the legacy of the second Empire, the only one that ever recognized Orcs as a proper people. You can see the disdain the Elves still have for Orcish kind in this very thread, suspecting their comrades of espionage just because of their heritage.

It’s not her heritage, but her lack of colors and profession of allegiance with the Dominion. If she is a Dominion Ally why is she not wearing our colors when on base in the middle of the war?

ETA: if the goal is to crush all mer, that would mean Orismer too must eventually turn on their own as well as themselves to accomplish that. You can see why trusting Orcs in general would be met with much trepidation. As you said, they clearly don’t have their “allegiances in check.” Never trust an orc, or any of the lesser mer for that matter. They pine for the shine of Auriel’s Divine light, but they will not have it! Not while this Altmer still breathes Nirn’s air!

ADarklore

atherusmora wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Orcs in particular live all over Tamriel. They don't really have an ancestral homeland like the others - that's why they are the pariah folk.

As mentioned, the Wood Orcs of Valenwood in particular are a noteworthy faction, so it's not strange at all to find some of them fighting for the Dominion. Neither would it be odd to find Orcs in the Pact, as Orcs have lived in Skyrim longer than the Nords.

Admittedly I don't think they have their allegiances in check, they should come to glorious Orsinium and serve in our Covenant, to crush the Elven *** whether high or dark. The Covenant carries the legacy of the second Empire, the only one that ever recognized Orcs as a proper people. You can see the disdain the Elves still have for Orcish kind in this very thread, suspecting their comrades of espionage just because of their heritage.

It’s not her heritage, but her lack of colors and profession of allegiance with the Dominion. If she is a Dominion Ally why is she not wearing our colors when on base in the middle of the war?

Well, perhaps she finds it easier to kill enemies who ASSUME she's part of their covenant simply because of her race. She could very well be preparing to go out on an assignment or perhaps isn't part of 'the military' and is doing this on her own for whatever reason.

atherusmora

ADarklore wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Orcs in particular live all over Tamriel. They don't really have an ancestral homeland like the others - that's why they are the pariah folk.

As mentioned, the Wood Orcs of Valenwood in particular are a noteworthy faction, so it's not strange at all to find some of them fighting for the Dominion. Neither would it be odd to find Orcs in the Pact, as Orcs have lived in Skyrim longer than the Nords.

Admittedly I don't think they have their allegiances in check, they should come to glorious Orsinium and serve in our Covenant, to crush the Elven *** whether high or dark. The Covenant carries the legacy of the second Empire, the only one that ever recognized Orcs as a proper people. You can see the disdain the Elves still have for Orcish kind in this very thread, suspecting their comrades of espionage just because of their heritage.

It’s not her heritage, but her lack of colors and profession of allegiance with the Dominion. If she is a Dominion Ally why is she not wearing our colors when on base in the middle of the war?

Well, perhaps she finds it easier to kill enemies who ASSUME she's part of their covenant simply because of her race. She could very well be preparing to go out on an assignment or perhaps isn't part of 'the military' and is doing this on her own for whatever reason.

If she’s not apart of the military, then why is she there gloating about battle? No AD colors, and no declaration of a set allegiance- she’s a spy. I won’t be convinced otherwise.

drunkendx

My suggestion to OP is to try playing AD main story (specifically one quest in northern part of Auridon)

zaria

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Your racism is showing, altmer.

All races can be found born, raised, and living in all provinces of Tamriel. It's not immersion breaking at all, quite the opposite.

She isn’t wearing Aldmeri colors or gear like everyone else on base, and she’s an orc. Why would she be at the Aldmeri Eastern Gate in Cyrodiil in the middle of war, without a uniform, gloating about the battle she just came from?

ETA: She’s a spy I tell you!!

Because people are not wearing armour all the time? Maybe she's a spy for the Dominion? Maybe she's a civilian/refugee? Or a messenger?

The racism orcs suffer....

This one agrees, note its plenty of Orcs living in Greenshade and Malabal Tor but the tribes are not part of Dominion as as for now, but imagine some leaves the tribes and moves to cities.

atherusmora

drunkendx wrote: »

My suggestion to OP is to try playing AD main story (specifically one quest in northern part of Auridon)

I’ve actually completed every storyline in the game already. I still think she’s a spy. This is a bit of fun. Relax and enjoy.

atherusmora

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Your racism is showing, altmer.

All races can be found born, raised, and living in all provinces of Tamriel. It's not immersion breaking at all, quite the opposite.

She isn’t wearing Aldmeri colors or gear like everyone else on base, and she’s an orc. Why would she be at the Aldmeri Eastern Gate in Cyrodiil in the middle of war, without a uniform, gloating about the battle she just came from?

ETA: She’s a spy I tell you!!

Because people are not wearing armour all the time? Maybe she's a spy for the Dominion? Maybe she's a civilian/refugee? Or a messenger?

The racism orcs suffer....

This one agrees, note its plenty of Orcs living in Greenshade and Malabal Tor but the tribes are not part of Dominion as as for now, but imagine some leaves the tribes and moves to cities.

So, we are going to disregard her blatant lack of respect for protocol, and assume she’s not a spy simply because some of her elk have been known to be somewhat tolerable? Where is her uniform? Where is her zeal for the glory of the Dominion?

Vulkunne

atherusmora wrote: »

I love Midyear Mayhem!! What I don’t love is seeing strictly Aldmeri territory defiled by the Covenant’s trash. If immersion breaking was an npc it’d be that wretched, filthy orc gloating about how she relished the rush of killing my brothers and sisters at arms. I suppose I should be grateful that she may have taken out some Ebonheart scum as well during her bloodlust. Nevertheless, she should have been killed for merely approaching the gates. How in The Void did she make it inside?!

Probably same reason there's an Orc running between Keeps wrecking DC and EP players with a Maul and a Crossbow. Imperial City sometimes too lol.

Secondly, the problem isn't the Orc, you have to understand this Dominion under Queen Ayrenn actually in some ways reflects the Empire. So I would imagine Orcs could be found anywhere, especially running Forges, Industry or the front lines too.

Additionally, there's a quest where an Orc Nobel defects from the Covenant, there are also instances in game where Orcs are friendly with the Dominion. Some are friendly, some are neutral, some are a problem.

All Orcs do not follow the Covenant. And I think the Dominion has made enough enemies hah. Personally I'd rather have an Orc running certain things anyways, doing the work the Altmer think they're too good for.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

atherusmora wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Your racism is showing, altmer.

All races can be found born, raised, and living in all provinces of Tamriel. It's not immersion breaking at all, quite the opposite.

She isn’t wearing Aldmeri colors or gear like everyone else on base, and she’s an orc. Why would she be at the Aldmeri Eastern Gate in Cyrodiil in the middle of war, without a uniform, gloating about the battle she just came from?

ETA: She’s a spy I tell you!!

Are you wearing your AD motif armor at all time? Maybe you're the spy and you only accuse her to draw the suspision away from you!!!

atherusmora

Vulkunne wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

I love Midyear Mayhem!! What I don’t love is seeing strictly Aldmeri territory defiled by the Covenant’s trash. If immersion breaking was an npc it’d be that wretched, filthy orc gloating about how she relished the rush of killing my brothers and sisters at arms. I suppose I should be grateful that she may have taken out some Ebonheart scum as well during her bloodlust. Nevertheless, she should have been killed for merely approaching the gates. How in The Void did she make it inside?!

Probably same reason there's an Orc running between Keeps wrecking DC and EP players with a Maul and a Crossbow. Imperial City sometimes too lol.

Secondly, the problem isn't the Orc, you have to understand this Dominion under Queen Ayrenn actually in some ways reflects the Empire. So I would imagine Orcs could be found anywhere, especially running Forges, Industry or the front lines too.

Additionally, there's a quest where an Orc Nobel defects from the Covenant, there are also instances in game where Orcs are friendly with the Dominion. Some are friendly, some are neutral, some are a problem.

All Orcs do not follow the Covenant. And I think the Dominion has made enough enemies hah. Personally I'd rather have an Orc running certain things anyways, doing the work the Altmer think they're too good for.

Can you vouch for her allegiances? She is not that same Nobel Orismer that defected. She is not wearing colors; she does not proclaim glory to the Dominion. Why is she in the base bragging about battle without colors? Whose side is she really on? As my incompetent companion, Mirri, would say, She’s a fetching spy!!!

Vulkunne

atherusmora wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

I love Midyear Mayhem!! What I don’t love is seeing strictly Aldmeri territory defiled by the Covenant’s trash. If immersion breaking was an npc it’d be that wretched, filthy orc gloating about how she relished the rush of killing my brothers and sisters at arms. I suppose I should be grateful that she may have taken out some Ebonheart scum as well during her bloodlust. Nevertheless, she should have been killed for merely approaching the gates. How in The Void did she make it inside?!

Probably same reason there's an Orc running between Keeps wrecking DC and EP players with a Maul and a Crossbow. Imperial City sometimes too lol.

Secondly, the problem isn't the Orc, you have to understand this Dominion under Queen Ayrenn actually in some ways reflects the Empire. So I would imagine Orcs could be found anywhere, especially running Forges, Industry or the front lines too.

Additionally, there's a quest where an Orc Nobel defects from the Covenant, there are also instances in game where Orcs are friendly with the Dominion. Some are friendly, some are neutral, some are a problem.

All Orcs do not follow the Covenant. And I think the Dominion has made enough enemies hah. Personally I'd rather have an Orc running certain things anyways, doing the work the Altmer think they're too good for.

Can you vouch for her allegiances? She is not that same Nobel Orismer that defected. She is not wearing colors; she does not proclaim glory to the Dominion. Why is she in the base bragging about battle without colors? Whose side is she really on? As my incompetent companion, Mirri, would say, She’s a fetching spy!!!

Its not about her. Its about the Dominion doing the right thing, stepping in to rescue political refugees from that wicked Covenant. Which, they did.

atherusmora

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Your racism is showing, altmer.

All races can be found born, raised, and living in all provinces of Tamriel. It's not immersion breaking at all, quite the opposite.

She isn’t wearing Aldmeri colors or gear like everyone else on base, and she’s an orc. Why would she be at the Aldmeri Eastern Gate in Cyrodiil in the middle of war, without a uniform, gloating about the battle she just came from?

ETA: She’s a spy I tell you!!

Are you wearing your AD motif armor at all time?

I proudly don the golden hues of my beloved Aldmeri Dominion among other symbols and colors representing various glories earned on her behalf. That said, I am The Vestige; an occupation only bolstered by my rank in Her majesties service! I defeated the legions of Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon, and the list goes on. No to mention I am Altmer. Anyone with eyes and half a guars brain would know my loyalty is well tested and proven to be proudly aligned with the greatest accord in all of Nirn. The Aldmeri Dominion. Any more questions?

atherusmora

Vulkunne wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

I love Midyear Mayhem!! What I don’t love is seeing strictly Aldmeri territory defiled by the Covenant’s trash. If immersion breaking was an npc it’d be that wretched, filthy orc gloating about how she relished the rush of killing my brothers and sisters at arms. I suppose I should be grateful that she may have taken out some Ebonheart scum as well during her bloodlust. Nevertheless, she should have been killed for merely approaching the gates. How in The Void did she make it inside?!

Probably same reason there's an Orc running between Keeps wrecking DC and EP players with a Maul and a Crossbow. Imperial City sometimes too lol.

Secondly, the problem isn't the Orc, you have to understand this Dominion under Queen Ayrenn actually in some ways reflects the Empire. So I would imagine Orcs could be found anywhere, especially running Forges, Industry or the front lines too.

Additionally, there's a quest where an Orc Nobel defects from the Covenant, there are also instances in game where Orcs are friendly with the Dominion. Some are friendly, some are neutral, some are a problem.

All Orcs do not follow the Covenant. And I think the Dominion has made enough enemies hah. Personally I'd rather have an Orc running certain things anyways, doing the work the Altmer think they're too good for.

Can you vouch for her allegiances? She is not that same Nobel Orismer that defected. She is not wearing colors; she does not proclaim glory to the Dominion. Why is she in the base bragging about battle without colors? Whose side is she really on? As my incompetent companion, Mirri, would say, She’s a fetching spy!!!

Its not about her. Its about the Dominion doing the right thing, stepping in to rescue political refugees from that wicked Covenant. Which, they did.

So you can’t vouch for her then? Perhaps you too are a spy?!

Vulkunne

How do we know you're not with the Veiled Heritance?

atherusmora

Vulkunne wrote: »

How do we know you're not with the Veiled Heritance?

That wouldn’t mean that I am against the Dominion. There are good mer on both sides of that fight.😜

Vulkunne

atherusmora wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

How do we know you're not with the Veiled Heritance?

That wouldn’t mean that I am against the Dominion. There are good mer on both sides of that fight.😜

But you would be a spy.

drunkendx

atherusmora wrote: »

drunkendx wrote: »

My suggestion to OP is to try playing AD main story (specifically one quest in northern part of Auridon)

I’ve actually completed every storyline in the game already. I still think she’s a spy. This is a bit of fun. Relax and enjoy.

Calling someone "filth" is "fun"

You have a strange way of having fun...

Racist.

atherusmora

Vulkunne wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

How do we know you're not with the Veiled Heritance?

That wouldn’t mean that I am against the Dominion. There are good mer on both sides of that fight.😜

But you would be a spy.

That’s a bit of a stretch, but sure.

atherusmora

drunkendx wrote: »

atherusmora wrote: »

drunkendx wrote: »

My suggestion to OP is to try playing AD main story (specifically one quest in northern part of Auridon)

I’ve actually completed every storyline in the game already. I still think she’s a spy. This is a bit of fun. Relax and enjoy.

Calling someone "filth" is "fun"

You have a strange way of having fun...

Racist.

Plebeian.

atherusmora

fezarel wrote: »

Don't worry. All races have their furries; this Orc got involved with a cute Khajiit and switched sides for love.

Those khajit are quite intoxicating, if you get my drift. An arrow well worth taking, if I do say so myself.

DreamsUnderStars

atherusmora wrote: »

I love Midyear Mayhem!! What I don’t love is seeing strictly Aldmeri territory defiled by the Covenant’s trash. If immersion breaking was an npc it’d be that wretched, filthy orc gloating about how she relished the rush of killing my brothers and sisters at arms. I suppose I should be grateful that she may have taken out some Ebonheart scum as well during her bloodlust. Nevertheless, she should have been killed for merely approaching the gates. How in The Void did she make it inside?!

Right, because all orcs are Covenant aligned, and all Khajiit are Aldmeri, and all Dunmer are Ebonheart... *eyeroll*

Kory

All self respecting Orcs can now procced to leave AD. Why are you fighting for Kitty cats and little elves anyway, they don't like you