You have until June to level your undaunted on your toons…

zaria

Saieden wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Instanced dungeons are all but public dungeons and delves who are shared.
Now it will be the group dungeon quest who give a skillpoint, but I assume the repeatable / daily quests in arenas and trials give undaunted xp to. I assume they also buff the undaunted pledge undaunted xp.

I expect this to be pretty much the same if you go to the dungeons then they are undaunted pledges every day getting getting your xp by quest on HM and the extra achievements you pick up, it will be slower if you burn trough them with friends to max out undaunted on a day.

From the notes:
"As part of Account-Wide Achievements, we've rebalanced how the Undaunted skill line advances. You'll now obtain Undaunted reputation when completing the quests found in instanced dungeons, and increased the amount of reputation you gain for completing Undaunted dailies. We have also removed Undaunted guild progression from Undaunted achievements."

I'm pretty sure Arenas only you give Undaunted for their Achievements and not quests, though I may be wrong.

They might change it because achievements not longer level undaunted.

Galbsadi

jaws343 wrote: »

From the Patch Notes, it was said that they increased the Rep gain for completing quests and the dailies to make up for removing the achievement rep gain.

Does that count retroactively? May be worth checking out because it would almost have to for players who have already completed quests.

It'd actually be pretty nice if it counts retroactively, but this is ZOS, so flip a coin.

Adremal

One would expect such a change to be mentioned in the presentation but no. No matter I'm done with undaunted already, I'm growing more disappointed and jaded by the day.

SydneyGrey

I will be really, really upset if they take away the ability to get multiple music boxes by doing that Bards College quest. That would really anger me, and it's been years since a change they made to this game actually got me upset. Mostly I've learned to just deal with the constant changes to the game.

carlos424

jaws343 wrote: »

From the Patch Notes, it was said that they increased the Rep gain for completing quests and the dailies to make up for removing the achievement rep gain.

Does that count retroactively? May be worth checking out because it would almost have to for players who have already completed quests.

I can’t remember anything being retroactive in this game, so I would say most probably not.

Saieden

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I will be really, really upset if they take away the ability to get multiple music boxes by doing that Bards College quest. That would really anger me, and it's been years since a change they made to this game actually got me upset. Mostly I've learned to just deal with the constant changes to the game.

In the current implementation, you will never be able to do it (and get another music box) again on the same account. Any "museum" pieces you've already found on any character will disappear for the rest.

zaria

Saieden wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I will be really, really upset if they take away the ability to get multiple music boxes by doing that Bards College quest. That would really anger me, and it's been years since a change they made to this game actually got me upset. Mostly I've learned to just deal with the constant changes to the game.

In the current implementation, you will never be able to do it (and get another music box) again on the same account. Any "museum" pieces you've already found on any character will disappear for the rest.

Now this is very bad, I say it qualify as an bug.
I kind of thought the bard college music box was achievement quest rewards like the undaunted burst or some other furniture like the Morrowind model. These you can put one in your house but you can put it in multiple.
Its rather like the precursor there you get it in your inventory and its definitely something you should be able to get multiple of.
I say both are items who you might want multiple of in an house, the music box to have music multiple places and see uses of multiple precursor for stuff like burst AoE damage testing.

Now one solution is to simply add them to achievement furniture you can buy from the achievement furniture seller.
But still think you should be able to find the items on later characters.

Hunterka71

I did Bogrul daily on PTS and it gave 10 undaunted.

As for that music box, anyone can name any other things like that ? so that I have time to collect them?
I think what ZOS can and will do is turn that box into collectible, like others, would make most sense.

silvereyes

Hunterka71 wrote: »

I did Bogrul daily on PTS and it gave 10 undaunted.

As for that music box, anyone can name any other things like that ? so that I have time to collect them?
I think what ZOS can and will do is turn that box into collectible, like others, would make most sense.

Making it and the precursor collectibles would really tick off a bunch of people. You can't have more than a single copy of a collectible in a house. People use groups of the precursor dummies for testing, and the music boxes have limited range, so having multiple in the same house is useful for large houses.

silvereyes

Just tested a normal pledge, and the reputation given by Maj al-Ragath when you turn in the pledge is still 10 on PTS, same as live. I was able to complete the dungeon quest on a second character and get 10 reputation from it plus a skill point, so that part is working.

Edit: FYI, there's already a bug report in the PTS area about this:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7512351/#Comment_7512351

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Mushroomancer wrote: »

That doesn't sound like it's working as intended. I don't quite remember what triggers you being able to do that quest, but I'm guessing it's the musical instruments collection in the bards' college (?). While yes, those are tracked through an achievement, it seems weird that you wouldn't be able to collect them on different characters and trigger the quest. Does the museum in Orsinium work the same way?

All current museum/collectible quests are currently broken on PTS such that, if you've already done it and thereby unlocked the account-wide associated acheivement, then they cannot be repeated on any other character. This includes wrothgar, summerset (artaeum) and bard's college (w.skyrim/blackreach).

edit: add kari's hit-list for thieves guild as non-repeatable

edit: haven't checked the map of vvardenfell for loss of repeatability