Why can’t we dye our hair at the dye stations?

JJMaxx1980

Seriously? We are allowed to dye our clothes and cut our hair in game, but we have to do a full appearance change to change our hair color? Please ZOS, let us dye our hair in game.

Hapexamendios

Trouble is if you use the same stuff as you use on your armor & weapons you'll end up killing your characters hair follicles and eventually have a roster of Telly Savalas lookalikes.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

I can give you a pretty fair guess: hair is part of the character, while clothes are not, therefore adding dyeing support to hair would involve a significant code change. ZoS aren't likely to implement such a feature unless a lot of players ask for it.

JJMaxx1980

vsrs_au wrote: »

I can give you a pretty fair guess: hair is part of the character, while clothes are not, therefore adding dyeing support to hair would involve a significant code change. ZoS aren't likely to implement such a feature unless a lot of players ask for it.

But we can already shave it all off and add it all back again in a hundred different styles for absolutely free?

mayasunrising

I would love to see this added! Just about every other mmo I've ever played has some sort of in game system for dying hair. I always thought it odd that ESO didn't.

priestnall.andrewrwb17_ESO

Everyone (the majority) will go full on day-glow waifu fantasy pigtails. I guess at this point though, the genie is out of the bottle…

LittlePinkDot

An Altmer with black hair

Sheezabeast

Well, they have sold us like three of the same hair style with different colors, it would kinda make stuff like that moot for them. Strictly marketing-wise, it would not make sense for them. I wish we could, and I wish we could dye the saddles our mounts use, but I highly doubt we ever will be able to.

DrSlaughtr

I can almost understand why you can't dye your base hairstyle.

But the fact the hair styles you can buy or collect from the store, which are equipped via the appearance menu just like costumes, can't be dyed is an oversight at best and at worst a money grab to force you to but app change tokens.

SydneyGrey

priestnall.andrewrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone (the majority) will go full on day-glow waifu fantasy pigtails. I guess at this point though, the genie is out of the bottle…

We can already wear skins that make us look like lava creatures .... I doubt someone having blue hair is going to ruin the game.

DinoZavr

"Why" questions only developers might answer if they will.
Lipsticks and eyelashes are Crown Store items. I guess adding hair dyes might require some coding, so from technical point of view: this is just a matter of priority. Hair dyes might sell damn well.
I would also like to see combat pet dyes implemented. Pink warden bears. Perfection!

wheresbes

no coding, just wigs

perfiction

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

rauyran

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

Sheridan

JJMaxx1980 wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

I can give you a pretty fair guess: hair is part of the character, while clothes are not, therefore adding dyeing support to hair would involve a significant code change. ZoS aren't likely to implement such a feature unless a lot of players ask for it.

But we can already shave it all off and add it all back again in a hundred different styles for absolutely free?

This counts as wigs, not haircuts.

Hurbster

Would be an ideal opportunity to expand alchemy. Clothing dyes as well.

Kiralyn2000

priestnall.andrewrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Everyone (the majority) will go full on day-glow waifu fantasy pigtails. I guess at this point though, the genie is out of the bottle…

People can do that kind of thing already (pink armor, orc men in dresses, glowing tattoos, etc, etc, etc), and yet "everyone" isn't doing it. So while a few people would do it (and perhaps a higher number the first couple weeks after the new feature launched), I don't think it would be the Neon Pigtail Apocalypse that you fear it would be.

npuk

vsrs_au wrote: »

I can give you a pretty fair guess: hair is part of the character, while clothes are not, therefore adding dyeing support to hair would involve a significant code change. ZoS aren't likely to implement such a feature unless a lot of players ask for it.

Some of the hair styles that you can equip do change the colour of your chars hair so it would not be that much of a change, but some people would then not buy appearance change tokens, it would be a nice little QOL thing for plus members though.

gariondavey

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

This is very accurate

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

DarkPicture

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

gariondavey

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]
[edited for baiting & to remove quote]

luen79rwb17_ESO

I agree this doesn't make any sense. It's even inmersion breaking I mean, anyone in real life could use a tint and dye the hair in a matter of minutes!!

DarkPicture

gariondavey wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]

FYI. If u would like to change hair on every your char and e.g. its 18 chars.

with ratio of 100 you need to spend only 1,8k crowns which is close ammount u get from eso+ (1,650) so it doesnt force u to buy more crowns or you will buy the lowest ammount.
with ratio of 1000 you need to spend 18k and its 16,2k difference to example (1). If u are buying eso+ u still missing 16,350 crowns to change every char.

Also on crown discords theres many sceenshots of purchased appearance tokens [snip]

EDIT. I also forgot to mention that zos doesnt benefit anything if u are buying item from crown store for crowns. They only benefit when u are buying crowns.

[edited for bashing & to remove quote]

gariondavey

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

DarkPicture wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]

[snip]

[snip]

The point the other person made was zos would sell 20x more if they were 100 instead of 1000. People would buy more tokens for more characters, and people who wouldn't normally get a token at all would now do it.

[snip]
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FangOfTheTwoMoons

Cant make money off it if it's free

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DarkPicture wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]

FYI. If u would like to change hair on every your char and e.g. its 18 chars.

with ratio of 100 you need to spend only 1,8k crowns which is close ammount u get from eso+ (1,650) so it doesnt force u to buy more crowns or you will buy the lowest ammount.
with ratio of 1000 you need to spend 18k and its 16,2k difference to example (1). If u are buying eso+ u still missing 16,350 crowns to change every char.

Also on crown discords theres many sceenshots of purchased appearance tokens [snip]

[edited for bashing & to remove quote]

Idk, I agree with Garion. Your math was clearly wrong, and grammar wasn't very precise. (This is constructive because precise grammar is necessary to make a clear and strong point).

*Edit: Come to think of it, being right is also crucial to having a strong point. You should always double check your math with a calculator if it's not your strong suit

[edited to remove quote]

M0R_Gaming

DarkPicture wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]

FYI. If u would like to change hair on every your char and e.g. its 18 chars.

with ratio of 100 you need to spend only 1,8k crowns which is close ammount u get from eso+ (1,650) so it doesnt force u to buy more crowns or you will buy the lowest ammount.
with ratio of 1000 you need to spend 18k and its 16,2k difference to example (1). If u are buying eso+ u still missing 16,350 crowns to change every char.

Also on crown discords theres many sceenshots of purchased appearance tokens [snip]

EDIT. I also forgot to mention that zos doesnt benefit anything if u are buying item from crown store for crowns. They only benefit when u are buying crowns.

[edited for bashing & to remove quote]

While this is true, I feel like you are missing the point that rauyran and gariondavey were making. They were stating that people would be more likely to buy tokens if they were cheaper.
No one that I know would be willing to spend 18k crowns to change 18 characters, simply because that's a lot of money at one time. Having a lower cost for tokens incentivizes people to buy more thus there is a larger flow rate of crowns.
Having a larger flow rate of crowns is almost always going to be good since that means that people aren't going to just be stockpiling crowns that they have from eso+ and it will help fight against inflation.


That being said, this entire conversation on crowns is off-topic, my opinion on the topic is that we should be able to buy the hairstyles (I think we actually already are, as collections), and the ability to dye hair should be an eso+ feature, similar to costumes. This matches with the current model of you need eso+ to dye costumes.

DP99

M0R_Gaming wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

DarkPicture wrote: »

rauyran wrote: »

perfiction wrote: »

Because it wouldn't be profitable, obviously.

If this was 100 crowns they'd sell 20x more than they do now.

And they would lose more money than 1000. [snip]

100 x 20 = 2000
1000 x 1 = 1000

[snip]

FYI. If u would like to change hair on every your char and e.g. its 18 chars.

with ratio of 100 you need to spend only 1,8k crowns which is close ammount u get from eso+ (1,650) so it doesnt force u to buy more crowns or you will buy the lowest ammount.
with ratio of 1000 you need to spend 18k and its 16,2k difference to example (1). If u are buying eso+ u still missing 16,350 crowns to change every char.

Also on crown discords theres many sceenshots of purchased appearance tokens [snip]

EDIT. I also forgot to mention that zos doesnt benefit anything if u are buying item from crown store for crowns. They only benefit when u are buying crowns.

[edited for bashing & to remove quote]

While this is true, I feel like you are missing the point that rauyran and gariondavey were making. They were stating that people would be more likely to buy tokens if they were cheaper.
No one that I know would be willing to spend 18k crowns to change 18 characters, simply because that's a lot of money at one time. Having a lower cost for tokens incentivizes people to buy more thus there is a larger flow rate of crowns.
Having a larger flow rate of crowns is almost always going to be good since that means that people aren't going to just be stockpiling crowns that they have from eso+ and it will help fight against inflation.


That being said, this entire conversation on crowns is off-topic, my opinion on the topic is that we should be able to buy the hairstyles (I think we actually already are, as collections), and the ability to dye hair should be an eso+ feature, similar to costumes. This matches with the current model of you need eso+ to dye costumes.

Well, to dye the costumes whatever colors you want anyway. You can dye them without eso plus, but only with the preset three color dyes from the store.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

They should just add a cosmetic collection, like hairstyles, markings etc, but with the haircolours.

Nurmana

so any news here in this regard or still no way to dye "my" hair? (just started playing again but my Altmer cant have another hair color than the ones offered in CharCreation)

i mean non-lore-friendly is no argument against this here, you have burning dogs or whatever those are as mounts, and can wear stuff that makes you look like a skeletton, why not having green hair, we can replace the haircut but not the color???
thats still not implemented?