Deadly Strike down to 15%

ThePlacidHatter

I haven't seen this being talked about. Sadly, I'm not surprised to see this. I figured the 2% nerf was just a stepping stone to inevitably dropping the set to 15%.

Thoughts on competitiveness of Deadly moving forward?

I use it on a dual wield Stam Sorc, which is currently one of my favourite toons to play. This is going to take quite a bit of damage away from him.

Tyreal1974

TBH, I am not overly surprised that the DOT and Channeled ability increase was slightly nerfed to 15% given the hybridization changes that will most likely be happening to this set for the other bonus. I think the Deadly Strikes set will be a very nice set for hybrid classes and hybrid Templars in particular and I cannot wait to see how this will pan out over the PTS cycle.

James-Wayne

My heart sank for my Stamplar with this change... I dont know the damage drop till tested but I feel its not going to be good

ThePlacidHatter

Tyreal1974 wrote: »

TBH, I am not overly surprised that the DOT and Channeled ability increase was slightly nerfed to 15% given the hybridization changes that will most likely be happening to this set for the other bonus. I think the Deadly Strikes set will be a very nice set for hybrid classes and hybrid Templars in particular and I cannot wait to see how this will pan out over the PTS cycle.

As soon as I heard about the further hybridisation of sets, my first thought was running Deadly on my Magicka Templar.
Now, I'm not so sure. It's something I'll have to test. I think it will probably still be worth it. Just not as powerful, obviously.

ealdwin

ThePlacidHatter wrote: »

Tyreal1974 wrote: »

TBH, I am not overly surprised that the DOT and Channeled ability increase was slightly nerfed to 15% given the hybridization changes that will most likely be happening to this set for the other bonus. I think the Deadly Strikes set will be a very nice set for hybrid classes and hybrid Templars in particular and I cannot wait to see how this will pan out over the PTS cycle.

As soon as I heard about the further hybridisation of sets, my first thought was running Deadly on my Magicka Templar.
Now, I'm not so sure. It's something I'll have to test. I think it will probably still be worth it. Just not as powerful, obviously.

I’m considering pairing it with Malacath’s once I can test it out. The nerf isn’t surprising, though it should still remain one of the better DOT sets out there.

divnyi

My assumption: someone tried stacking hybrid WD/SD and hybrid crit and pick best dots from both stam and mag, resulting in broken numbers in PvE.

ResidentContrarian

One set shouldn't make or break your entire build. When it does, it's a good indication it wasn't balanced...

MashmalloMan

ThePlacidHatter wrote: »

I haven't seen this being talked about. Sadly, I'm not surprised to see this. I figured the 2% nerf was just a stepping stone to inevitably dropping the set to 15%.

Thoughts on competitiveness of Deadly moving forward?

I use it on a dual wield Stam Sorc, which is currently one of my favourite toons to play. This is going to take quite a bit of damage away from him.

Not a super popular set for stam sorc, but I'm sure it will still do great if you're continuing to use flurry as a spammable.

Keep in mind, the set is nerfed a little, but if you use Matriarch, you're getting 258 extra spell damage and 3% spell crit along with the previous change that made it effect Magical damage types for a skill like Atro or Aborbtion Field.

Ratzkifal

It's a magicka set now. All the boni are now hybrid, including those for armor weight. It applies to magic damage now, so 15% had to be the new value or it would be broken for magDDs.

And people say hybridization doesn't hurt anyone...

six2fall

Have to see how it plays but just thinking about a 3% nerf will be a decent hit to stamplar dps which while being beyond stupidly easy isnt the best dps in endgame

MashmalloMan

six2fall wrote: »

Have to see how it plays but just thinking about a 3% nerf will be a decent hit to stamplar dps which while being beyond stupidly easy isnt the best dps in endgame

Skinny put out a video of a Stamplar build doing 117k dps using the new PoTL and Advancing Yokeda. Deadly is already outclassed at 18% since it doesn't buff PoTL and it's crazy strong now.

mzprx

since i am using poisons on my Stamina Templar i started to look at the Moon Hunter set a bit more since they announced the "all sets will have hybrid stats".

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 657 Spell Critical
(5 items) When your alchemical poison fires, increase your Spell Damage by 547 for 8 seconds.

using it only on the front bar could look like a potential replacement for Deadly Strike. if you can keep the uptime on poisons as high as possible. don't know yet if it will be better or not, just looking at it with interest..

ThePlacidHatter

mzprx wrote: »

since i am using poisons on my Stamina Templar i started to look at the Moon Hunter set a bit more since they announces the "all sets will have hybrid stats".

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 657 Spell Critical
(5 items) When your alchemical poison fires, increase your Spell Damage by 547 for 8 seconds.

using it only on the front bar could look like a potential replacement for Deadly Strike. if you can keep the uptime on poisons as high as possible. don't know yet if it will be better or not, just looking at it with interest..

That refers to weapon poisons, doesn't it? What's the up time like for that set?

mzprx

ThePlacidHatter wrote: »

mzprx wrote: »

since i am using poisons on my Stamina Templar i started to look at the Moon Hunter set a bit more since they announces the "all sets will have hybrid stats".

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 657 Spell Critical
(5 items) When your alchemical poison fires, increase your Spell Damage by 547 for 8 seconds.

using it only on the front bar could look like a potential replacement for Deadly Strike. if you can keep the uptime on poisons as high as possible. don't know yet if it will be better or not, just looking at it with interest..

That refers to weapon poisons, doesn't it? What's the up time like for that set?

yes, weapon poisons. and no idea about the uptime, it has 10 second cooldown (as all poisons have that cooldown) so the ideal scenario will be you get 547 Weapon and Spell damage for 8 seconds every 10 seconds, if you can reliably activate the poison on your front bar. the reason why i started to look closer at this set is that it buffs Ritual of Retribution as well and i am using the hell out of that one on my Stamina Templar. it should buff PoTL as well and that now hits like a truck (finally). so it looks viable (the Moon Hunter set) of you're using poisons..

Everest_Lionheart

It was over performing.18% on all dots meant the dot meta was coming back. 15% brings it in line with other sets.