PSA: Elemental Succession

Jodynn

Elemental Succession: This set now grants its bonuses randomly per element when you deal any source of Flame, Frost, or Shock Damage, rather than firing each bonus independently per element.

Zos, I think you are missing the mark here

Let's not talk about PvP because of three reasons
1.) Silks of the sun and friends give spell critical which isn't the desired stat in PvP so you're already losing there
2.) Elemental damage gives you no healing output, so the 5 piece bonus is pretty much avoided anyways
3.) Almost no defensive measures really so you are limited on what you can build around.

So let's talk PvE

Ele Succ gives TWO lines of Maximum Magicka, this is NOT desired.

So the buff it gives you an extra 92 elemental damage but RANDOMLY now.

But the crit percent is more important than max magicka so the 92 elemental damage is more or less ALREADY balanced.

Now theoretically let's say you had to pick between these two sets currently

If you are MagDK you could pick silks of the sun because Elemental succession is no longer viable due to it's randomness
If you are necromancer you can gamble and hope you get all three

But still, you won't buff magic damage so...

Throw them both away and pick a better set because for them to be powerful enough for you to use just one element silks of the sun would have to give you AT LEAST 600 fire damage, and elemental succession would need to be consistent not random with even more damage because it has TWO lines of maximum magicka which scales poorly.

This set annoys me on LIVE because it's not worth using, but after this I'll decon all the pieces I have.

Vaoh

Elemental Succession clearly isn’t working as just a damage type buff set. Let it be unique like this:

Current
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(5 items) Whenever you deal Flame, Shock, or Frost Damage, you gain 492 Spell Damage for that element for 4 seconds. Each effect can occur every 4 seconds, and multiple effects can be active at once.

New
(2 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(5 items) Whenever you deal Flame, Shock, or Frost Damage, the respective element gains 450 Spell Damage and 300% status effect damage for 4 seconds. Multiple effects can be active at once.

No cooldown.

universal_wrath

Jodynn wrote: »

Elemental Succession: This set now grants its bonuses randomly per element when you deal any source of Flame, Frost, or Shock Damage, rather than firing each bonus independently per element.

Zos, I think you are missing the mark here

Let's not talk about PvP because of three reasons
1.) Silks of the sun and friends give spell critical which isn't the desired stat in PvP so you're already losing there
2.) Elemental damage gives you no healing output, so the 5 piece bonus is pretty much avoided anyways
3.) Almost no defensive measures really so you are limited on what you can build around.

So let's talk PvE

Ele Succ gives TWO lines of Maximum Magicka, this is NOT desired.

So the buff it gives you an extra 92 elemental damage but RANDOMLY now.

But the crit percent is more important than max magicka so the 92 elemental damage is more or less ALREADY balanced.

Now theoretically let's say you had to pick between these two sets currently

If you are MagDK you could pick silks of the sun because Elemental succession is no longer viable due to it's randomness
If you are necromancer you can gamble and hope you get all three

But still, you won't buff magic damage so...

Throw them both away and pick a better set because for them to be powerful enough for you to use just one element silks of the sun would have to give you AT LEAST 600 fire damage, and elemental succession would need to be consistent not random with even more damage because it has TWO lines of maximum magicka which scales poorly.

This set annoys me on LIVE because it's not worth using, but after this I'll decon all the pieces I have.

Funny thing is, this new change is actualy the original state of the set. Not sure why zos decided to revert the set to its old form, because the old version was change to the live version because people didn't like the random proc chance and never bothered to use the set. Now it is going to be a waste...again.

RaptorRodeoGod

universal_wrath wrote: »

Jodynn wrote: »

Elemental Succession: This set now grants its bonuses randomly per element when you deal any source of Flame, Frost, or Shock Damage, rather than firing each bonus independently per element.

Zos, I think you are missing the mark here

Let's not talk about PvP because of three reasons
1.) Silks of the sun and friends give spell critical which isn't the desired stat in PvP so you're already losing there
2.) Elemental damage gives you no healing output, so the 5 piece bonus is pretty much avoided anyways
3.) Almost no defensive measures really so you are limited on what you can build around.

So let's talk PvE

Ele Succ gives TWO lines of Maximum Magicka, this is NOT desired.

So the buff it gives you an extra 92 elemental damage but RANDOMLY now.

But the crit percent is more important than max magicka so the 92 elemental damage is more or less ALREADY balanced.

Now theoretically let's say you had to pick between these two sets currently

If you are MagDK you could pick silks of the sun because Elemental succession is no longer viable due to it's randomness
If you are necromancer you can gamble and hope you get all three

But still, you won't buff magic damage so...

Throw them both away and pick a better set because for them to be powerful enough for you to use just one element silks of the sun would have to give you AT LEAST 600 fire damage, and elemental succession would need to be consistent not random with even more damage because it has TWO lines of maximum magicka which scales poorly.

This set annoys me on LIVE because it's not worth using, but after this I'll decon all the pieces I have.

Funny thing is, this new change is actualy the original state of the set. Not sure why zos decided to revert the set to its old form, because the old version was change to the live version because people didn't like the random proc chance and never bothered to use the set. Now it is going to be a waste...again.

I remember when that happened.

Now this set is only useful on MAYBE MagNecro.

VixxVexx

Considering the time is takes to farm an inferno, this change is ridiculous. (Maelstrom drops 6 sets for some reason).

This set went from a bsw alternative to garbage never-to-be-used.

Jamdarius

W8 what they are nerfing Elemental Succession?! Oh just great... They made another valid set be deconstructing material.

What's the point to even use that set anyone? Sure it was better than Silks of the Suns in terms of pure element buff, but you have forgotten that it actually takes some time to farm this set, it is locked in MA/vMA and now it's just trash. Guess I am glad I made sure to keep old sets on pack mule characters... I just farmed all the pieces during Year one celebration and look at that soon after it gets completely useless...

Jodynn

VixxVexx wrote: »

Considering the time is takes to farm an inferno, this change is ridiculous. (Maelstrom drops 6 sets for some reason).

This set went from a bsw alternative to garbage never-to-be-used.

I farmed over 60 times during the orsinium event to get it when it was better for Khajiit so the fact it got nerfed with the "set balances" which really means sine they overlook the fact it has two lines of max magicka it's just not worth using on live, now it's just a trash set completely on pts.

kojou

At least farming it will be easier.

Eliahnus

RIP Elemental Succession ...

I farmed this set during the event and improved the complete set to golden, only to have to deconstuct it because it' s garbage now.

I cannot believe you do this, you are ruining your own game.

YandereGirlfriend

This was one of my favorite sets on both magRomancer and magDK and now it's just another dead set.

Who comes up with these ideas? Do they actually play the game?

ESO_Nightingale

Jamdarius wrote: »

W8 what they are nerfing Elemental Succession?! Oh just great... They made another valid set be deconstructing material.

What's the point to even use that set anyone? Sure it was better than Silks of the Suns in terms of pure element buff, but you have forgotten that it actually takes some time to farm this set, it is locked in MA/vMA and now it's just trash. Guess I am glad I made sure to keep old sets on pack mule characters... I just farmed all the pieces during Year one celebration and look at that soon after it gets completely useless...

Yeah they want us to use the dogwater netch and ysgramor's birthright even though those sets are not only meh at best, but especially ysgramor's birthright has only 3 viable frost damage skills? One of which is unstable wall of frost which is still easily beaten by unstable wall of fire.

Jamdarius

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

W8 what they are nerfing Elemental Succession?! Oh just great... They made another valid set be deconstructing material.

What's the point to even use that set anyone? Sure it was better than Silks of the Suns in terms of pure element buff, but you have forgotten that it actually takes some time to farm this set, it is locked in MA/vMA and now it's just trash. Guess I am glad I made sure to keep old sets on pack mule characters... I just farmed all the pieces during Year one celebration and look at that soon after it gets completely useless...

Yeah they want us to use the dogwater netch and ysgramor's birthright even though those sets are not only meh at best, but especially ysgramor's birthright has only 3 viable frost damage skills? One of which is unstable wall of frost which is still easily beaten by unstable wall of fire.

Agreed, they also forgot that some players liked to use it on Frost Dens, and Fire DK builds instead of BSW (because BSW has cool down). It was never really about it being better or worse than for example Silks of the Sun/ysgramor it was about it being worthy set reward for doing over and over MA and vMA to get the set... Now it feels like pretty random nerf for the sake of making us mad...

RaptorRodeoGod

It could have also been paired with Sun/Netch's/Ysgrammor. Now it can't.