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Would you please give us an answer ZOS? Is the gap closer bug in PVP zones going to get fixed?

Callosum
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Gap closers haven't been working since midyear mayhem. Would you please give us an answer ZOS: What is going on? And are you working on fixing this?
Just to make it clear - this has nothing to do with lag. The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey. This is totally game breaking especially for StamDK's. Just please let me know that you are aware of this and are doing what you can to fix it.
Edited by Callosum on September 13, 2021 8:57PM
  • Jameson18
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Gap closers haven't been working since midyear mayhem. Would you please give us an answer ZOS: What is going on? And are you working on fixing this?
    Just to make it clear - this has nothing to do with lag. The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey. This is totally game breaking especially for StamDK's. Just please let me know that you are aware of this and are doing what you can to fix it.

    Pretty sure someone's going to tell you to "take a number" at this point. :expressionless:

    Makes me sad because IC is one of my favorite places.
  • Callosum
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    Has anyone figured out a way to work around this problem?
  • Larcomar
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    Callosum wrote: »
    The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey.

    That sounds like a deliberate change. It wouldn't be the first thing they forgot to tell us about. Are you sure it's not intentional.

    As to stamdks, well try playing a magdk :)
  • Callosum
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    Larcomar wrote: »
    Callosum wrote: »
    The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey.

    That sounds like a deliberate change. It wouldn't be the first thing they forgot to tell us about. Are you sure it's not intentional.

    As to stamdks, well try playing a magdk :)

    Absolutely sure that it is not intentional. We talking about leap, stampede, shield bash etc. but I have also heard that this happens to ambush for night blades so it does not only applies to dragon knights. Sometimes it is possible to work around this by changing district in IC which would be weird if it was intentional but the skills will loss their range again if you die. The reason that I'm specifically referring to stamDK's (but also magDK) is because this bug is affecting their ultimate. A dragon knight without leap is like a sorc without streak or af nightblade without cloak and therefore it is especially destroying the gameplay for dragon knights.
  • Larcomar
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    Fair enough, that does sound like a bug - happened the same if I remember last year? Think they fixed it just in time for MYM but may be mis remembering.
  • ZeroDPS
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Gap closers haven't been working since midyear mayhem. Would you please give us an answer ZOS: What is going on? And are you working on fixing this?
    Just to make it clear - this has nothing to do with lag. The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey. This is totally game breaking especially for StamDK's. Just please let me know that you are aware of this and are doing what you can to fix it.

    Am I missing something? tell me pls the details, what is not working or overworking in IC and BG?
  • Callosum
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    ZeroDPS wrote: »
    Callosum wrote: »
    Gap closers haven't been working since midyear mayhem. Would you please give us an answer ZOS: What is going on? And are you working on fixing this?
    Just to make it clear - this has nothing to do with lag. The skill description changes in BG's and IC so that the skills have no range and goes grey. This is totally game breaking especially for StamDK's. Just please let me know that you are aware of this and are doing what you can to fix it.

    Am I missing something? tell me pls the details, what is not working or overworking in IC and BG?

    I will try - English isn't my main language :)
    What happens when i'm entering a PVP zone or instance, like BG's, is that my gap closers like stampede, shield bash, leap etc. won't fire and it is not due to lag but that the skill actually stops working. It is not only me who is experiencing this but a lot players and it has ben going on for many months now. The reason that the skills does not work is that when I'm entering a BG or IC the description of these skills changes - the range of the skills disappears. Normally when you look at skill it will have: Cast time, target, range, radius, and cost. But in PVP the range from all my gap closers skills is missing in the description and this is not the case in PVE zones. Consequently, these skills can't fire and it is ruining PVP for a lot of players and especially for classes where performance is dependent on these kind of skills.

    I feel like it is weird that ZOS still haven't commented on this bug considering the impact and multiple bug reports. Therefore, i hoped they would just give a brief statement here.
  • gariondavey
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    PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden
  • woe
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    They are working, you are either lagging or desyncing
    uwu
  • Callosum
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    deflorate wrote: »
    They are working, you are either lagging or desyncing

    This is not the case sorry.

    Look at pictures in this thread
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579081/dk-leap-not-working-in-battlegrounds/p1

    This is affecting a lot of players and it keeps going on
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579023/dragon-leap-not-firing/p2
  • Vevvev
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Has anyone figured out a way to work around this problem?

    Besides equip a different ability? Not really. I've tried but there doesn't seem to be any kind of way to fix the issue that I can see and repeatedly dying and respawning doesn't seem to do it. Every time I got into these zones I check Leap to see if it has a range, and if not I'll throw Dawnbreaker or Meteor in it's place.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Has anyone figured out a way to work around this problem?
    Nyce Gaming put a fix for IC on his YouTube.


    https://youtu.be/yNroKROUjsE
    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
  • Nemeliom
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Has anyone figured out a way to work around this problem?

    Yes, there's a way to avoid it. But it's a pain, because you have to remember.
    Everytime you leave a safe zone, be sure not to have the skill bar that has the gap closer. Just have the backbar.
    The problem is when you leave the safe zone (which turns you blue) and you have the weapon with the gap closing skill.
    Baradur Morker - Level 50 Bosmer Nightblade
    Le-Duck - Level 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight
    Boom-Stormer - Level 50 High Elf Sorcerer
    Nemeliom the Great - Level 50 Redguard Warden
    Crazy Little Maggie - Level 50 High Elf Templar
  • SimonThesis
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    There are plenty of bugs in cyrodiil that we are all waiting for updates on. Gap closers have been bugging out in crodiil for a while. I think if they just released a known bugs lists for cyrodiil and let us see them cross the bugs off as they go, then a lot of people on here would be much happier! @ZOS_Kevin
  • Nagastani
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    Cyrodiil: "Gap Closers don't work"
    Imperial City: "Templars are able to gap close from the street up to a second floor walkway."
    Cyrodiil:
  • Saxhleel
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    Soon, there will be so many bugs that Cyrodiil will become a PvE zone because once you hit another player, your game crash will crash.
    "What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work in this place. Come. Lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy" — Dagoth Ur

  • milllaurie
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    Callosum wrote: »
    Has anyone figured out a way to work around this problem?

    For me it seems to fix it temporarily until the next bg.
    You see leap not working.
    You die, equip onslaught.
    You die, equip leap - it works.
    Note - requires 2 deaths.
    Radio silence from devs.
    But it is your game and part of it is not working. You must fix it people.
    Also I have a list of bugs but I am afraid to post it anywhere after Darber's raid got banned for posting a bug in a trial.
    Not that they would fix any of them anyway.
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