6+ MONTH GAME BREAKING BUG: GAP CLOSERS ARE STILL NOT WORKING.

Skoomah

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

ZeroDPS

I tested just right now, and its working. What's the problem with your skills?

Icy_Nelyan

My DK ulti Is Just a roulette when comes to pvp, You can never know if It Will work or Just grey out.

Same goes for my Mag DK chain, and do not forget about my stam nightblade and his critical charge; none of these skills works "all the time" as they should be, sometime they Just grey out and GG to you.

It seems that this problem Is fixed only for some players and not for others; I donno if they work in pve, but in pvp (at least on me) I can only hope to have a working gap closer, otherwise Is Just a wasted slot.

stybbe17b16_ESO

Usually work 90% of the time for me, but those 10% of time when you enter a battleground and have to play through it without leap is pain. Seeing other DKs flying around meanwhile you have to roll around on your wheelchair.

SpiritofESO

CSose

SpiritofESO wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

My Dragon Leap and Stampede are working perfectly, have always been and continue to be fine. I use them constantly on my Dragonknight.

There is NO BUG that I can see. Sorry.

Please stop with the bold italics on every post. It's worse than all caps.

Titanium

SpiritofESO wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

My Dragon Leap and Stampede are working perfectly, have always been and continue to be fine. I use them constantly on my Dragonknight.

There is NO BUG that I can see. Sorry.

There is a high chance that gap closer skills do not work in Imperial City. This has been going on for a long time already. Sometimes it will work, until you go into another district, and then it stops working. The fix is to log out and log in and hope that it will work, with the high chance that it will not work, and also you might have to re-queue into the same campaign to play with your group.

Tannus15

So when you say "not working" you mean "in certain locations or certain circumstances" ?
you guys really need to learn to be more specific.

Roztlin45

Yep, gap closer in IC has a 50/50 chance as well a skill delay.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

SpiritofESO wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

My Dragon Leap and Stampede are working perfectly, have always been and continue to be fine. I use them constantly on my Dragonknight.

There is NO BUG that I can see. Sorry.

Just because you’re not experiencing a bug doesn’t mean others are not

Togal

Its not a bug at this point, its a feature

Personofsecrets

I've experienced the charge bug quite often and have come up with a way to fix the bug.

First and foremost, I get the bug in Imperial City. I haven't been doing other PVP content, so I can't speak to how to fix the bug IF it does exist in Cyrodiil or BGS. Feel free to post here if it does happen in Cyrodiil or BGS, as I'm interested to know.

So what the bug does is prevent a player from using a gap closing ability. In my case, Crit Rush and Dragon Leap are impacted.

I think that the bug has to do with base area immunity or maybe the height coordinate from that base area not being correctly removed from the player after they jump down from their home area into a district.

Some base areas I get this bug what seems like every time. So after I climb the ladder to go to the Nobles district Ebonheart Pact base area, I expect to not be able to use gap closers. Some base areas don't seem to cause the bug every time.

So now for the part as to why you are reading the post, the way to fix the bug is to go through a door into a different area.

This can be doors that go into quest or crafting areas of IC. It can be doors that go into different districts. It can be sewer entrances. After you go through one of these doors, then the bug will be fixed, at least until you hit one of those base areas again.

Now leap, leap to your hearts content!

LashanW

ZeroDPS wrote: »

I tested just right now, and its working. What's the problem with your skills?

SpiritofESO wrote: »

My Dragon Leap and Stampede are working perfectly, have always been and continue to be fine. I use them constantly on my Dragonknight.

There is NO BUG that I can see. Sorry.

This bug doesn't affect PvE zones, only some PvP instances and only for some characters. There's plenty of threads about this, especially in bug report section. Haven't seen a single acknowledgement from devs so far, so I guess this bug won't get fixed anytime soon. This is the main reason I stopped taking PvP seriously in this game back in midyear mayhem event. Shame, stamDK was really fun in PvP

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579023/dragon-leap-not-firing/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/585537/how-many-years-is-leap-going-to-bugged-in-imperial-city#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579081/dk-leap-not-working-in-battlegrounds/p1

The bug basically sets the range of your gapcloser abilities to zero. So they are permanently grayed out and returns "Target out of range" error message when you try to use them. (Fixes itself when you leave the PvP instance)

divnyi

Tannus15 wrote: »

So when you say "not working" you mean "in certain locations or certain circumstances" ?
you guys really need to learn to be more specific.

Didn't work for me in a regular BG yesterday.

I wouldn't say it's 90% to 10% for me tho, but some rare occasion. Might be worse for other players.

OlumoGarbag

To clear some confusion. Alot of gapclosers have a hight and line of sight check. If your target is below or above your elevation it wont work all the time. And some gapclosers behave like channels now, so if you lose line of sight the channel stops.

So: add together cast time, elevation check, line of sight check, hectic pvp fights and positional desyncs due to bad server performance --> clunky gapclosers which sometimes work sometimes dont

LashanW

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

So: add together cast time, elevation check, line of sight check, hectic pvp fights and positional desyncs due to bad server performance --> clunky gapclosers which sometimes work sometimes dont

@OlumoGarbag
How do you explain the Range info in skill tooltip getting literally deleted? Whenever this bug happens your gapclosers won't have range info in their tooltips, until you leave the instance.
Screenshots in this thread,
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579081/dk-leap-not-working-in-battlegrounds/p1

MikeSkyrim333

ZOS PLS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Isjgc0oX0s

Aardappelboom

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

To clear some confusion. Alot of gapclosers have a hight and line of sight check. If your target is below or above your elevation it wont work all the time. And some gapclosers behave like channels now, so if you lose line of sight the channel stops.

So: add together cast time, elevation check, line of sight check, hectic pvp fights and positional desyncs due to bad server performance --> clunky gapclosers which sometimes work sometimes dont

yeah, but that is not it, it's the worst in IC, when it's greyed out, it doesn't work on NPCs there either. It's definitely bugged. Sometimes happens in BG but less than in IC, never had it in Cyro.

Changing zones, (even subzones, like going in a building and back out) fixes it, when you have it in BG, you'll have to sit it out.

I agree it is annoying and should be fixed.

Skoomah

It is occurring while I PvP in BGs and IC. When are you going to fix this ZOS??????

This bug has been reported repeatedly for months now by many people.

ResidentContrarian

Imagine an entire class being useless for a patch due to various game-breaking bugs.

Imagine being a mag DK.

Nord_Raseri

Yeah. Sometimes it'll be the bug that also messes with tooltip and also sometimes I've issues using targeted gapclosers in times of positional desync(which happens to me randomly). That last one can affect more than just gapclosers though.

Cirantille

cptqrk

A skill not working due to lag in PvP is not game breaking.

If it didn't work in PvP and PvE then it would be game breaking.

/thread

AuraStorm43

cptqrk wrote: »

A skill not working due to lag in PvP is not game breaking.

If it didn't work in PvP and PvE then it would be game breaking.

/thread

[snip] if a skill doesn’t work it doesn’t work

[edited for baiting]

Callosum

Are you serious.... THIS IS NOT DUE TO LAG. This is a bug there has been going on since midyear mayhem. If this BUG is not affecting you I am happy for you but please stop. What happens is that the skill description changes - the skills has no range when we go into BG's and IC. I haven't been able to use my DK in BG's and IC for several month and trust me I have tried everything. It does work in cyrodill though. No idea why.

SimonThesis

There are so many 6+ month bugs that havent been fixed or even acknoweledged. I'd just consider it a part of the game at this point. Seems like they have given up on trying to fix bugs as they aren't ever getting fixed.

TumlinTheJolly

This still isn't fixed? I just reinstalled and found that Crit Rush is greyed out and cannot be used at all in over half the BGs I enter...

Shadowshire

Skoomah wrote: »

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

Things that I have noticed which you might be overlooking:

(1) Be sure that the targeting cross-hairs are on the character to which you want your character to move toward. Sometimes they can get lost in the visual chaos of the combat being shown on the HUD. It also helps if the mouse is heavy enough that you must definitely move it or it doesn't budge, so the cursor stays where you place it. Some Bosses jump around or move rapidly from place to place, which can make it difficult to target them.

(2) Usually the target must be at least 3 - 5 meters away from your character when you press the key to execute the ability. Which is to say, there must be a significant "gap" between the two characters, else the ability makes no sense to use and it would make no sense for it to have an effect.

(3) When the targeted character moves after you press the key to execute the ability, usually your character will "close the gap" nonetheless, but there are some exceptions. Also, whether any effects of the ability, such as a stun or a critical hit, are applied depends upon the situation after your character "leaps" to the new location.

(a) When the target moves beyond the range which your character can leap to attack, then ordinarily your character leaps to a spot next to the spot where the target was previously located, but a gap will remain between them. Any effects of the ability, such as a stun or critical hit, might be negated by the remaining gap.

(b) Also, if the target moves toward your character, so that the distance between them becomes less than the minimum distance at which your character can use the "gap closer" ability, then your character does not move. Nonetheless, the effects of the ability, such as a stun, are ordinarily applied to the target.

Again, note that with regard to (a) and to (b) above you must press the key to execute the ability before the target moves. When the target moves to or toward another location before you press the key, the attempt to use the ability is likely to fail entirely -- if only because the cross-hairs are no longer on the target.

(4) An attempt to use the ability is very likely to fail when there is a relatively large solid obstacle -- such as a boulder or a shrub, or a furnishing such as a crate or table -- at any location along the line of travel between your character and the target. It is also likely to fail when the target moves from a location without an obstacle between your character and the target, to a location which causes an obstacle to be between them. However, sometimes using the ability appears to prevent the target from moving to such a location and your character will "close the gap" between them.

TumlinTheJolly

Shadowshire wrote: »

Skoomah wrote: »

ZOS. When are you going to fix the game breaking bug that makes it so you can't use gap closer skills? It's been 6+ months now. My dragon leap, stampede skills are not working! Please give us some news on the fix for this bug.

Things that I have noticed which you might be overlooking:

(1) Be sure that the targeting cross-hairs are on the character to which you want your character to move toward. Sometimes they can get lost in the visual chaos of the combat being shown on the HUD. It also helps if the mouse is heavy enough that you must definitely move it or it doesn't budge, so the cursor stays where you place it. Some Bosses jump around or move rapidly from place to place, which can make it difficult to target them.

(2) Usually the target must be at least 3 - 5 meters away from your character when you press the key to execute the ability. Which is to say, there must be a significant "gap" between the two characters, else the ability makes no sense to use and it would make no sense for it to have an effect.

(3) When the targeted character moves after you press the key to execute the ability, usually your character will "close the gap" nonetheless, but there are some exceptions. Also, whether any effects of the ability, such as a stun or a critical hit, are applied depends upon the situation after your character "leaps" to the new location.

(a) When the target moves beyond the range which your character can leap to attack, then ordinarily your character leaps to a spot next to the spot where the target was previously located, but a gap will remain between them. Any effects of the ability, such as a stun or critical hit, might be negated by the remaining gap.

(b) Also, if the target moves toward your character, so that the distance between them becomes less than the minimum distance at which your character can use the "gap closer" ability, then your character does not move. Nonetheless, the effects of the ability, such as a stun, are ordinarily applied to the target.

Again, note that with regard to (a) and to (b) above you must press the key to execute the ability before the target moves. When the target moves to or toward another location before you press the key, the attempt to use the ability is likely to fail entirely -- if only because the cross-hairs are no longer on the target.

(4) An attempt to use the ability is very likely to fail when there is a relatively large solid obstacle -- such as a boulder or a shrub, or a furnishing such as a crate or table -- at any location along the line of travel between your character and the target. It is also likely to fail when the target moves from a location without an obstacle between your character and the target, to a location which causes an obstacle to be between them. However, sometimes using the ability appears to prevent the target from moving to such a location and your character will "close the gap" between them.

Some BGs it works every single cast. Some BGs it cannot be cast at all, even on targets right in front of me, on totally flat ground. It's 100% a bug. It never SOMETIMES works... It either works every time or not at all, BG to BG. Every time I zone into a game, I just hope like hell it's an instance where the skill will work. i.e. The skill (Crit Rush) just gets totally locked out in over 50% of the BGs.