Outfits: Hide Slot option for ALL slots

spartaxoxo

NupidStoob wrote: »

Berdusk wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I forget which gloves are these I'll add it in later, but I think these ones work pretty well at retaining some of the Sapiarch sleeves.

This (ancient elf) worked. I'm not sure how I overlooked it. Thanks.

NupidStoob wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

I'm against the hide pants option, but I'll happily support the rest

Why though? It's not like characters are completely nude even when they have nothing on. People should be able to make whatever look they like for a character; we're the ones that have to see them all the time, you'd only see them for, at the most, the stretch of time it takes to clear a dungeon or trial. People can already run around partially or fully 'naked' in banks and stuff as it is anyway.

Cause this game doesn't need to be another mmo full of [Snip]. If thats to your liking take your pick, there are plenty.

Your other arguments don't hold much water either. It not being part of the outfit system is why so few bother with it, despite them being able to. If it was part of the outfits we'd see this everywhere. You also see people in more places than just in some dungeons/trials...

I always liked how ESO is keeping most of this stuff out, but they slowly add more and more of it. Sooner or later there will be a bikini bottom style and maybe even *** like bunny ears and other such atrocities.

[Edited for inappropriate content]

I love how the most vociferous opponent of inappropriate content in this thread is, in fact, inappropriate.

The fact of the matter is that if people wanted to go skimpy, anyway, they can simply remove gear and clear the slots. This isn't something that can't be done already - and even if it wasn't, our characters are never naked and, frankly, don't look that great in just their skivvies, anyhow. Never mind the nordic beach towel costume which has very much the same effect. I don't think nudity/skimpiness is really a valid concern here.

I love how you phrase this as some sort of gotcha and the obvious Thesaurus use. If the standard term that is used for these kind of mogs is "inappropriate" then so be it.

I also addressed the issue of "it's already in the game" plenty.

Nudity/skimpiness isn't much of an issue as there are lot's of tribal NPCs and similar like that in the game already. The issue I have is that it usually goes way further than just that once players get involved and it gets plain tasteless as pretty much any other MMO that added things like this has proven.

I simply don't like to run around in a city full of half naked people. Elder Scrolls games aren't like that despite what you possibly made yourself believe by installing all the ridiculous Skyrim mods. There are enough websites to satisfy these kind of needs.

I agree with you 100%. I think anyone who thinks it wouldn't turn into masses of people running around like that because they wouldn't do it are naive. Sex sells. I also find games that do that tend to have a less inclusive environment to play in, personally.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a little bit of sex appeal and sexiness in games, eso actually does the best job of this where it doesn't feel neither like a waifu adult game for a primarily male audience nor like some stupid care bear game where nothing risqué can happen ever and everything is for prudes and kids.

And I think a part of that is the art direction, with them doing a very good job with the skimpy costumes of selling sexy skimpy outfits that aren't completely objectified, usually by having some kind of caveat to them, so maybe they'll give you a bikini top but it will have a long skirt. Or maybe they'll let a guy be bare chested, but he's wearing pants.

It's a really fine line to walk but they do it absolutely masterfully, and I think this aided by their very strong art design. I would hate to see that go out the window by allowing us to hide pants and to a lesser extent chests.

So for me, I'd rather trust the team to add more skimpy outfits rather than see hide pants/chests so people can show off their awesome tattoos and skins in a way that still fits the aesthetic.

NupidStoob

Berdusk wrote: »

NupidStoob wrote: »

Berdusk wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I forget which gloves are these I'll add it in later, but I think these ones work pretty well at retaining some of the Sapiarch sleeves.

This (ancient elf) worked. I'm not sure how I overlooked it. Thanks.

NupidStoob wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

I'm against the hide pants option, but I'll happily support the rest

Why though? It's not like characters are completely nude even when they have nothing on. People should be able to make whatever look they like for a character; we're the ones that have to see them all the time, you'd only see them for, at the most, the stretch of time it takes to clear a dungeon or trial. People can already run around partially or fully 'naked' in banks and stuff as it is anyway.

Cause this game doesn't need to be another mmo full of [Snip]. If thats to your liking take your pick, there are plenty.

Your other arguments don't hold much water either. It not being part of the outfit system is why so few bother with it, despite them being able to. If it was part of the outfits we'd see this everywhere. You also see people in more places than just in some dungeons/trials...

I always liked how ESO is keeping most of this stuff out, but they slowly add more and more of it. Sooner or later there will be a bikini bottom style and maybe even *** like bunny ears and other such atrocities.

[Edited for inappropriate content]

I love how the most vociferous opponent of inappropriate content in this thread is, in fact, inappropriate.

The fact of the matter is that if people wanted to go skimpy, anyway, they can simply remove gear and clear the slots. This isn't something that can't be done already - and even if it wasn't, our characters are never naked and, frankly, don't look that great in just their skivvies, anyhow. Never mind the nordic beach towel costume which has very much the same effect. I don't think nudity/skimpiness is really a valid concern here.

I love how you phrase this as some sort of gotcha and the obvious Thesaurus use. If the standard term that is used for these kind of mogs is "inappropriate" then so be it.

I also addressed the issue of "it's already in the game" plenty.

Nudity/skimpiness isn't much of an issue as there are lot's of tribal NPCs and similar like that in the game already. The issue I have is that it usually goes way further than just that once players get involved and it gets plain tasteless as pretty much any other MMO that added things like this has proven.

I simply don't like to run around in a city full of half naked people. Elder Scrolls games aren't like that despite what you possibly made yourself believe by installing all the ridiculous Skyrim mods. There are enough websites to satisfy these kind of needs.

For the record, A.) I don't care for skimpy mods, myself, and B.) my reference to modders earlier in the thread was to making mods, not using them. Way to go with the presumption, though - not only with me, but the entire player population and what they would do given the option.

Yes how very presumptuous of me to assume something you can see in any other game where stuff like this is an option. /s

On top of that such a sad attempt to undermine what I said by trying to phrase it as if I am accusing "the entire player population" of wanting to make their chars skimpy and painting me as some sort of enemy to everyone. Bring up actual points instead of trying to be manipulative and polarizing please.

Obviously the majority of players still won't engage in this, but it will be an awful lot more than what we have right now.

zelaminator

Yes, we can run around without pants already, but it requires you to wear no armor in that slot.. this prevents many people from doing it, because stats are important to most players.. if you added the option to hide pants, WHILE wearing armor, I firmly believe that we would see it much much more.. And personally I would really really hate that