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Does stuhn's kick in on the first surprise attack used by a nightblade? or only on the damage after?

MrDenimChicken
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title says it all. I'm wondering when Stuhn's actually starts working. If it's incorporated into the dmg of the first surprise attack, it would be way stronger than if it only kicked in after the first surprise attack
  • relentless_turnip
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    It's after. When you damage to an enemy that is off balance. It's a great set can't really recommend it enough👍
  • milllaurie
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    It's after. When you damage to an enemy that is off balance. It's a great set can't really recommend it enough👍

    Stuhn's + truth front, master's bow back ❤️
  • Stx
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    Truth is suuuper underrated. So is archers mind
  • Theignson
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    what's the most effective and guaranteed way you use to get them off balance so that these sets work?
    Quakrson, Stam DK, Grand Overlord
    Trackrsen, Stam Warden, Grand Overlord
    Quakrsen, Mag DK, Overlord
    Tolliverson, Stam NB, General
    Farfarel, Stam Necro, Praetorian
    Spencerson, Templar, Prefect
    Phosphorsen, Stam Sorc, Tribune
    Phosphorson, Mag Sorc, Tribune
    Glimson, Arcanist, Major
    All EP/ PC NA
  • gariondavey
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    Theignson wrote: »
    what's the most effective and guaranteed way you use to get them off balance so that these sets work?

    Surprise attack
    PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden
  • milllaurie
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    Theignson wrote: »
    what's the most effective and guaranteed way you use to get them off balance so that these sets work?

    Or dizzying swing on non nb classes.
    You can also use toppling charge (mag morph) on a templar.
  • gariondavey
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    milllaurie wrote: »
    Theignson wrote: »
    what's the most effective and guaranteed way you use to get them off balance so that these sets work?

    Or dizzying swing on non nb classes.
    You can also use toppling charge (mag morph) on a templar.

    Both morphs of the templar gap closer are mag
    PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden
  • milllaurie
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    milllaurie wrote: »
    Theignson wrote: »
    what's the most effective and guaranteed way you use to get them off balance so that these sets work?

    Or dizzying swing on non nb classes.
    You can also use toppling charge (mag morph) on a templar.

    Both morphs of the templar gap closer are mag

    You are right
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