So many significant changes not in patch notes

VixxVexx · July 2021

Usually the patch notes miss a couple of things. But this time it's like they forgot an entire section.
@ZOS_GinaBruno ?

Corrosive armor ignoring spell resistance
deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%
potentates buff from 3% to 5%
crusader set (from volenfell I know) has a completely new effect
rejuvenation cp nerfed from 150 to 90 recovery
sword and board passive giving 5% spell damage -Spurius_Lucilius
expert summoner giving 8% max health for any daedric ability instead of having a pet active -Nifok
etc

Zabagad · July 2021

Crusader is in the notes.

Dungeon & Arena

[...]
Crusader:
This set now grants you a damage shield based on your Weapon and Spell Damage for 6 seconds and creates an Area of Effect beneath you for 10 seconds whenever you deal direct damage with a Blink, Charge, Leap, Teleport, or Pull ability. Every 2 seconds, the area grants you and group members inside Minor Courage for 12 seconds. These effects can occur once every 20 seconds.
This set’s 2 through 4-piece bonuses are now Weapon and Spell Damage (2, 3, and 4) rather than Max Stamina, Stamina Recovery, and Max Stamina.
This set no longer increases your dodge chance bonus of Roll Dodge by 0.3 seconds.

VixxVexx · July 2021

Nice catch, so 1/5

Spurius_Lucilius · July 2021

Another thing misses in the patch notes: Sword and Board provides 5% both weapon and spell damage instead of only weapon damage.

ClawOfTheTwoMoons · July 2021

Lol didn't they nerf potentates like a year ago from 5 to 3, and now they're bringing it back up? Seems zos can't make their minds up.

Jierdanit · July 2021

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Lol didn't they nerf potentates like a year ago from 5 to 3, and now they're bringing it back up? Seems zos can't make their minds up.

I would say its a good thing that they change something that they think is a mistake instead of keeping it the way it was.

And it this case it doesnt seem to be a bad change, seeing how the TTK got quite low this patch, so they try to make ppl a bit tankier again.

Amottica · July 2021

Yes, PTS has potentates back up to 5% and this is not in the patch notes.

Is this a novel mistake for Zenimax?

ClawOfTheTwoMoons · July 2021

Jierdanit wrote: »

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Lol didn't they nerf potentates like a year ago from 5 to 3, and now they're bringing it back up? Seems zos can't make their minds up.

I would say its a good thing that they change something that they think is a mistake instead of keeping it the way it was.

And it this case it doesnt seem to be a bad change, seeing how the TTK got quite low this patch, so they try to make ppl a bit tankier again.

Oh don't get me wrong, I don't mind the change I find the situation hilarious.

robpr · July 2021

Shantu wrote: »

VixxVexx wrote: »

[*] deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%

[snip]

Nerfed to 18% but affects ALL dots and channels now, not only phys.

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[edited to remove quote]

virtus753 · July 2021

robpr wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

VixxVexx wrote: »

[*] deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%

[snip]

Nerfed to 18% but affects ALL dots and channels now, not only phys.

[edited to remove quote]

But still only grants Weapon Damage and Weapon Crit. So they nerfed this for stam toons without making it competitive for mag.

YandereGirlfriend · July 2021

Has anyone checked Magma Shell to see if the damage shield to allies can now cover an entire 12-person group?

I would love that as another stealth buff.

ealdwin · July 2021

virtus753 wrote: »

robpr wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

VixxVexx wrote: »

[*] deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%

[snip]

Nerfed to 18% but affects ALL dots and channels now, not only phys.

[edited to remove quote]

But still only grants Weapon Damage and Weapon Crit. So they nerfed this for stam toons without making it competitive for mag.

Wouldn't even be that hard to fix. Allow the WD lines to provide WD and SD, and change the WCrit to Crit Chance. Done.

The nerf to 18% would even be justified since the set would theoretically add a good chunk of power to off-spec DoTs/channels due to the updated Medium Armor passive.

Nifok · July 2021

Another Change:

They changed Expert Summoner (The last passive in the Sorcerer, deadric summoning tree) from:

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have a Daedric Summoning pet active to

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have Daedric Summoning ability active on yourself

which works on the shield and on having bound armor slottet. Which is kinda huge for PvP.

YandereGirlfriend · July 2021

Nifok wrote: »

Another Change:

They changed Expert Summoner (The last passive in the Sorcerer, deadric summoning tree) from:

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have a Daedric Summoning pet active to

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have Daedric Summoning ability active on yourself

which works on the shield and on having bound armor slottet. Which is kinda huge for PvP.

Now this is an awesome change!

I just messed around with it and the only Summoning ability that it is not activated from is Daedric Curse, which makes sense.

RandomKodiak · July 2021

But still only grants Weapon Damage and Weapon Crit. So they nerfed this for stam toons without making it competitive for mag.[/quote]

Well usually the only stam that use Deadly is Templar and some DK builds and it buffs RoR and any fire DoTs and Burning from DK so overall not really a nerf or not much of one. No they did not make it useful for Mag though.

RandomKodiak · July 2021

Spurius_Lucilius wrote: »

Another thing misses in the patch notes: Sword and Board provides 5% both weapon and spell damage instead of only weapon damage.

Thanks I missed that

shrekt4303 · July 2021

virtus753 wrote: »

robpr wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

VixxVexx wrote: »

[*] deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%

[snip]

Nerfed to 18% but affects ALL dots and channels now, not only phys.

[edited to remove quote]

But still only grants Weapon Damage and Weapon Crit. So they nerfed this for stam toons without making it competitive for mag.

Cresent sweep will do more damage and so will radiant oppression. I already used cresent in my build, and now I can use an execute. Def still a stamina set.

universal_wrath · July 2021

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Nifok wrote: »

Another Change:

They changed Expert Summoner (The last passive in the Sorcerer, deadric summoning tree) from:

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have a Daedric Summoning pet active to

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have Daedric Summoning ability active on yourself

which works on the shield and on having bound armor slottet. Which is kinda huge for PvP.

Now this is an awesome change!

I just messed around with it and the only Summoning ability that it is not activated from is Daedric Curse, which makes sense.

So it needs to be used, not just slotted? Eh, it is a nice change but it should be for slotted skills like every damn similar passive in the game. I guess they made it for PvP for par swaping, but now would the regen passive would work like that or is it unchanged? I'm not sure why are they doing this, so it is good if you have bound armament but useless if you bound aegis.

universal_wrath · July 2021

RandomKodiak wrote: »

But still only grants Weapon Damage and Weapon Crit. So they nerfed this for stam toons without making it competitive for mag.

Well usually the only stam that use Deadly is Templar and some DK builds and it buffs RoR and any fire DoTs and Burning from DK so overall not really a nerf or not much of one. No they did not make it useful for Mag though.[/quote]

This change reminds me of draugrkin. Magicka set with all magicka bonuses but it is used on stam specs for pvp because of the last piece bonus.

YandereGirlfriend · July 2021

universal_wrath wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Nifok wrote: »

Another Change:

They changed Expert Summoner (The last passive in the Sorcerer, deadric summoning tree) from:

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have a Daedric Summoning pet active to

Increases your Maximum Health by 8% while you have Daedric Summoning ability active on yourself

which works on the shield and on having bound armor slottet. Which is kinda huge for PvP.

Now this is an awesome change!

I just messed around with it and the only Summoning ability that it is not activated from is Daedric Curse, which makes sense.

So it needs to be used, not just slotted? Eh, it is a nice change but it should be for slotted skills like every damn similar passive in the game. I guess they made it for PvP for par swaping, but now would the regen passive would work like that or is it unchanged? I'm not sure why are they doing this, so it is good if you have bound armament but useless if you bound aegis.

Shield and pets need to be activated active/summoned to receive the health bonus.

But Bound Weapons and Bound Aegis you only have to have them slotted.

Curse is the only skill left out and doesn't receive the bonus for being either slotted or activated.

The sustain passive has remained the same as far as I can tell.

chiipso · July 2021

robpr wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

VixxVexx wrote: »

[*] deadly being nerfed from 20 to 18%

[snip]

Nerfed to 18% but affects ALL dots and channels now, not only phys.

[edited to remove quote]

Has anyone tested any new abilities this now buffs?

Artemis_X_ · July 2021

Don't know how they do it in eso, but I remember talking to staff on SWG who collated patch notes saying they were given a huge. Almost code heavy print out of notes that needed deciphering to make the patch notes. It was often the miss reading of complicated code that lead to these missed notes than anything subversive

jaws343 · July 2021

Looks like today's Patch Notes list the Potentates buff as a mistake. And it is now back to 3%.

Dalsinthus · July 2021

I am really disappointed by the rejuvenation passive nerf.

DrSlaughtr · July 2021

Dalsinthus wrote: »

I am really disappointed by the rejuvenation passive nerf.

They gotta give people a reason to run the new slotable that gives 150 while having a negative effect. Which is really pointless. Most negative effects last 3-5 seconds, I believe. So at best you'll get 2 ticks from that cp, unless I'm mistaken. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

prof_doom · July 2021

TheEndBringer wrote: »

Dalsinthus wrote: »

I am really disappointed by the rejuvenation passive nerf.

They gotta give people a reason to run the new slotable that gives 150 while having a negative effect. Which is really pointless. Most negative effects last 3-5 seconds, I believe. So at best you'll get 2 ticks from that cp, unless I'm mistaken. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Except, like you point out, nobody will actually use it because it's useless.
If ZOS really wants us to have to think about active CP nodes, then they gotta come up with more than 4 that are actually useful. Right now, at best, the only time I really have to put thought into things is in the Warfare tree, where both DPS and Healers now have 5-6 decent slottables.

The green side is just an exercise in frustration.

And even with the nerfs, I doubt anyone other than tanks are going to give any thought whatsoever to the fitness tree, except maybe to think about whether to swap out one of the other mitigation passives for Ironclad (which will probably depend on what precisely you're trying to run.)