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Anhedonie
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Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.
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  • ArchMikem
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    I don't believe they said that. I don't know what video you mean but Elder Scrolls only has one timeline. Or several, depending on how you view Dragon Breaks. The events of ESO however still happened within the same reality as the main line titles. They're definitely not spinoffs, if Bethesda has anything to say about it.
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    My opinion might not be "lore kosher," but I think that each ES game's timeline is The One True Timeline as far as that game is concerned.

    If you want to start preaching lore and criticizing one or more ES games for "breaking lore" or whatever, then IMO we could say that every ES game since TES:Arena has played fast and loose with the lore, changed the timeline for its own purposes, etc.

    Frankly, I think it's a good thing that Bethesda and ZOS have allowed the lore to be expanded or even altered for the benefit of each game.
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  • Anhedonie
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I don't believe they said that. I don't know what video you mean but Elder Scrolls only has one timeline. Or several, depending on how you view Dragon Breaks. The events of ESO however still happened within the same reality as the main line titles. They're definitely not spinoffs, if Bethesda has anything to say about it.

    They said exactly that in one of the videos, that's why I'm asking for the link. Can't find it atm.
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  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Never heard them say that. ESO is not a different timeline.

    Is this one of those "ESO iS nOt CaNoN! things?
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    Lolno its the other way around ESO is a per definition spin off game and if they really said that they need to get off their high horses
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? (...)
    Events from previously released Elder Scrolls titles aren't spin-offs or separated in a different time line from ESO, they just happened in different Eras. Time line is the same one for the entire Elder Scrolls universe.
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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.
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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.

    Wow I had no idea ESO was in the past of the story I thought it was after all that.
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    [snip]

    https://youtu.be/dkZD3D1jfGk

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on July 16, 2021 4:43PM
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    [snip]

    Not sure if they even said that, but previous loremaster Lawrence Schick said the world's despiction is the actual canon or something compared to the main games?

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on July 16, 2021 4:42PM
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    At the moment it seems no one else remembers seeing this video.

    Are you able to remember anything else about it? What was the format? Was it an interview style with people discussing the game, or a preview of something? If it was a preview do you know what it was about? Do you remember anything else which was discussed in the same video? That might help us find it.

    Currently we have nothing to go on except that it included a comment about ESO being the canon timeline, and since you yourself seem unsure about that (since you're looking to confirm) it seems likely other people may have understood it differently or it may not have been a very memorable comment in the context of the video, which makes it difficult to identify. Any other information you can remember would help narrow it down.
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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.

    ~800 and ~1000 relatively speaking, but otherwise, yeah.
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.

    As far as I can remember, the only game which is (kinda) out of continuity is Legends. (Its story is 4th Era, but many of the cards are from other timeframes.)

    ESO and Redguard are set in the Second Era.

    Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, Morrowind, and Oblivion are Third Era.

    Legends (sort of), Blades, and Skyrim are 4th Era.

    That should be a roughly chronological order.

    With the exception of Legends, everything is canon. (And, even then, Legends storylines are probably canon, up to a point.)
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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.

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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.

    Wow I had no idea ESO was in the past of the story I thought it was after all that.

    Actually if my math is right, The Elder Scrolls: Online takes place 747 years before the events of TES 4: Oblivion, and 948 years before TES 5: Skyrim.

    ESO begins in 2E 582. The 2nd Era ends in 2E 896. The 3rd Era begins, then ends in 3E 433 with the Oblivion Crises. Then the events of Skyrim happens in 4E 201.
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    ESO is set in the 2nd Era, 2E 582 to be precise.

    Arena, Battlespire, Daggerfall, Morrowind and oblivion are set in the 3rd Era, Skyrim is set in the 4th Era

    ESO is 1000 years before Oblivion and 1200 Years before Skyrim.

    Wow I had no idea ESO was in the past of the story I thought it was after all that.

    I'm convinced that ESO is the reason mudcrabs are so aggressive in Skyrim. They evolved to deal with adventurers farming them
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    No wonder there are only 8 Divine's
    in ESO because in Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind there's 9 Divine's.
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    No wonder there are only 8 Divine's
    in ESO because in Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind there's 9 Divine's.

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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.

    Can you recall anything else from the video to help us further to help you out? Like, can you recall of whom said it? Was it focus on any of the chapters? Was it only focus on ESO or the TES franchise in general, something like the 25th Anniversary Panel? Can you recall what year you first saw the video?

    Do you think you probably misheard what they said?

    As like others, I never heard it.
    Edited by Clyde_BlueSnake on July 17, 2021 2:04AM
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.

    Can you recall anything else from the video to help us further to help you out? Like, can you recall of whom said it? Was it focus on any of the chapters? Was it only focus on ESO or the TES franchise in general, something like the 25th Anniversary Panel? Can you recall what year you first saw the video?

    Do you think you probably misheard what they said?

    As like others, I never heard it.

    Was it a fan theory from Camelworks?
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    No wonder there are only 8 Divine's
    in ESO because in Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind there's 9 Divine's.

    Because Tiber Septim hasn't been born yet...
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.

    Can you recall anything else from the video to help us further to help you out? Like, can you recall of whom said it? Was it focus on any of the chapters? Was it only focus on ESO or the TES franchise in general, something like the 25th Anniversary Panel? Can you recall what year you first saw the video?

    Do you think you probably misheard what they said?

    As like others, I never heard it.

    I suspect it's this.
    It was certainly brought up a lot if ESO is considered canon or a spinoff but the Devs were always very clear that ESO is indeed canon to the main series, same as every other game (except for maybe Elder Scrolls Travels: Dawnstar).
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    It's not a spinoff, it's a "retcon"
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link for that video where devs say that ESO is the main canon timeline and other TES games are kinda spin offs? I can't recall where I saw that.

    Can you recall anything else from the video to help us further to help you out? Like, can you recall of whom said it? Was it focus on any of the chapters? Was it only focus on ESO or the TES franchise in general, something like the 25th Anniversary Panel? Can you recall what year you first saw the video?

    Do you think you probably misheard what they said?

    As like others, I never heard it.

    I suspect it's this.
    It was certainly brought up a lot if ESO is considered canon or a spinoff but the Devs were always very clear that ESO is indeed canon to the main series, same as every other game (except for maybe Elder Scrolls Travels: Dawnstar).

    I don't think I'd ever heard speculation that Shadowkey or Dawnstar were non-canon, just that Legends might not be.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I don't believe they said that. I don't know what video you mean but Elder Scrolls only has one timeline. Or several, depending on how you view Dragon Breaks. The events of ESO however still happened within the same reality as the main line titles. They're definitely not spinoffs, if Bethesda has anything to say about it.

    Technically Dragon Breaks are not alternate timelines but a moment where multiple possible realities happen at once... and they're all correct in the main timeline. It's still the main timeline but in an area on Nirn the events become burred and indistinguishable as everything is both true and false.
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    Not sure if this helps at all but at 2:30 he answers if the lore timeline match up / are canon

    http://https://youtu.be/lNUCtNOp5dQ"]https://youtu.be/lNUCtNOp5dQ
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    Not sure if this helps at all but at 2:30 he answers if the lore timeline match up / are canon

    http://https://youtu.be/lNUCtNOp5dQ"]https://youtu.be/lNUCtNOp5dQ

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