Which of these achievements is the most difficult?

kargen27

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

MerguezMan wrote: »

"Emperor" in Cyrodiil.

Those you mention mainly require time, but no real skilled effort, except maybe Godslayer.

So just like Emperor?

Emp is not about how good you actually are as a player, but about how much time you can spend farming AP.
So pretty much also mainly requires time.

Not entirely.

Grand Overlord is the achievement that requires just time spent grinding AP.

Emperor requires that you push for a lot of AP in a very short amount of time, outlasting your competitors and hoping to be on top when your alliance pushes the Emp ring. Often, Emperor pushes for first-time emps involve coordinating with your factions guilds. Having been a part of a number of Emp pushes, Emperor is not a matter of "if you keep doing this activity, you'll get it eventually" the way Master Angler, Black Market Mogul, or Grand Overlord are. It takes deliberste, sustained effort.

I wouldn't say Emperor is up there with Godslayer, but it's not really in the same category as the pure time-sink achievements either.

PvP guilds used to sell Emperor. That was back when AP was allotted differently though. They would take a keep then everybody but the person wanting Emperor would run out of range of the tick giving a ton of AP to the one person. Was a few other things they would do also. Still took some push on the players part but it did used to be a lot easier.

MasterSpatula

Godslayer

All three are tedious time-sucks that require you to do the same thing over and over and over again until you finally get the right result. Only one of them actually requires skill.

Beyond that, only one of them requires innate ability, which is to say there are some, maybe many, who will never achieve it no matter how long and how hard they try. They (or more properly, we) simply lack the dexterity and reaction times to pull it off.

wheresbes

Godslayer

as that requires some skills, not only a lot of patience and dedication (not that these are not important, kudos to everyone that got the master angler, I could never!)

On a side note, yesterday I looked at some achievements that I've unlocked (totally by chance) and the percentages of those who've also unlocked them were quite low, so I've also looked at achievements such as stonethorn delver which just means you did 2 dungeons on vet and only 0,10% have unlocked it on XBOX EU.

This really put things into perspective regarding the difference between what I read here in the forums and what people actually do in-game.

VaranisArano

kargen27 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

MerguezMan wrote: »

"Emperor" in Cyrodiil.

Those you mention mainly require time, but no real skilled effort, except maybe Godslayer.

So just like Emperor?

Emp is not about how good you actually are as a player, but about how much time you can spend farming AP.
So pretty much also mainly requires time.

Not entirely.

Grand Overlord is the achievement that requires just time spent grinding AP.

Emperor requires that you push for a lot of AP in a very short amount of time, outlasting your competitors and hoping to be on top when your alliance pushes the Emp ring. Often, Emperor pushes for first-time emps involve coordinating with your factions guilds. Having been a part of a number of Emp pushes, Emperor is not a matter of "if you keep doing this activity, you'll get it eventually" the way Master Angler, Black Market Mogul, or Grand Overlord are. It takes deliberste, sustained effort.

I wouldn't say Emperor is up there with Godslayer, but it's not really in the same category as the pure time-sink achievements either.

PvP guilds used to sell Emperor. That was back when AP was allotted differently though. They would take a keep then everybody but the person wanting Emperor would run out of range of the tick giving a ton of AP to the one person. Was a few other things they would do also. Still took some push on the players part but it did used to be a lot easier.

What I'm hearing is that even the cheesed method for one person getting Emperor required the effort, coordination, and cooperation of a bunch of allies at the right time.

That's why I separate it from Grand Overlord, which is a pure time sink. Sure, most Grand Overlords put a ton of time and effort into getting the achievement, but people have gotten it by just repairing walls before. (Which is an impressive achievement in of itself, but goes to show that it's really just a timesink.)

Kusto

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Kusto wrote: »

None of them is difficult. The first 2 are just time consuming and require no skill, and you can buy Godslayer carry. The only titles that have some weight are the ones from solo arenas, Flawless Conqueror and Spirit Slayer. Everything else either takes time or can be bought.

So you're just going to invalidate everyone who didn't buy a godslayer carry? You're also saying it's harder to get Falwless conqueror or spirit slayer when, it's only riding on you meanwhile for gs you need 12 individuals to be on their p's and q's? Lmao what kind of broken logic is this?

Flawless and spirit slayer are harder because you actually have to play the content and not dying. For group content achievements all you have to do is cough up the gold.

I know what you're saying. If you actually playing to get Godslayer then ofc its harder but how does anyone know if you bought the carry or did it yourself. Therefore group content titles are meaningless. You can blame the elitists selling the carries for that. Its ironic and funny how the sellers destroying their own achievements lol.

Couple of weeks ago I saw gryphon heart in pug vSCP. I was the tank and thought nice, gonna be smooth run. Boy, I was wrong. During the first boss fight, he got into argument with the healer and healer rage quit. We queued for replacement but didn't get any, so we 3 manned the rest. That gryphon guy couldn't stay alive lol, he died 4-5 times at every boss and when he was alive, the dps was only 20-30k. Theres no way he earned the title. I've also seen godslayers in dungeons and pug vSS once. They died alot and did mediocre dps.

aleksandr_ESO

Vigarr wrote: »

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- Master Angler: 15 hours for me
- Black Market Mogul: about 30 days for 5-10 minutes

Are these difficult achievements, you think?

there's no way you did that in 15 hours...you have to fish every zone and rng catch each type of fish. Even if you caught each fish on your first cast just running around everywhere going zone to zone casting your line and waiting on a bite will take longer then 15 hours

- party of two players
- Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl
- CP "Reel Technique" and "Angler's Instincts"

it only took two nights with new CP. Minumum is 20 min/zone. Maximum is 1.5 hours. Total 20 zones.

Chrysa1is

Master Angler

because i will never waste my time fishing, this achievement is impossible for me.

JoDiMageio

aleksandr_ESO wrote: »

- Master Angler: 15 hours for me

Lol, 15 hours for Master Angler??
With all the CP points AND Artaeum pickled fish, takes me about 1.5h - 2h a zone. Either you have the RNG of a God, or you are exaggerating juuuuuuuust a wee bit.

Edit: I just saw your post about the party of two... I still think it's highly unlikely, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I guess...

kojou

Godslayer

My initial response is Godslayer, but I doubt my ADHD will ever let me get Master Angler, so they are probably more equal than I realize.

MirandaSharp

Master Angler

Because, Fishing is hard.....

Chaos2088

Godslayer

Is this a trick poll -confusion noises-

tmbrinks

Godslayer

2 can be accomplished by anybody on their own with time and perseverance.

1 requires the coordination of 11 other people along with your own personal flawless play to accomplish.

Rezdayn

Aaxc wrote: »

BrownChicken wrote: »

While these are fully different type of achievements and cannot be really compared, let me fill you in with basic statistics, that I see in the eso armory:

Master Fisher (Master Angler is the title, achievement name is Master Fisher)
Completed on 28.88% accounts and 3.96% characters

Black Market Mogul
Completed on 25.78% accounts and 3.45% characters

Godslayer of Sunspire (full achievement name)
Completed on 13.04% accounts and 2.76% characters

Do with this information as you please.

Not a chance 13% of players have finished godslayer. I doubt 13% of the player base could even finish every 4 man dungeon on hm.

I know this is not your information and you are not stating it. So I am not criticizing you. Its just virtually impossible that 13% have done it when the far far far majority of players struggle to walk in a straight line.

tmbrinks

Godslayer

Rezdayn wrote: »

Aaxc wrote: »

BrownChicken wrote: »

While these are fully different type of achievements and cannot be really compared, let me fill you in with basic statistics, that I see in the eso armory:

Master Fisher (Master Angler is the title, achievement name is Master Fisher)
Completed on 28.88% accounts and 3.96% characters

Black Market Mogul
Completed on 25.78% accounts and 3.45% characters

Godslayer of Sunspire (full achievement name)
Completed on 13.04% accounts and 2.76% characters

Do with this information as you please.

Not a chance 13% of players have finished godslayer. I doubt 13% of the player base could even finish every 4 man dungeon on hm.

I know this is not your information and you are not stating it. So I am not criticizing you. Its just virtually impossible that 13% have done it when the far far far majority of players struggle to walk in a straight line.

13% of the people who have submitted their information to ESO-armory (which is primarily achievement hunter types).

It does show that even among those who seek achievements, more than twice as many have Master Angler and Black Market Mogul as have Godslayer.

(Only thing with Godslayer is once you have the achievement it's "easier" to get on multiple characters, whereas MA and BMM are just as time consuming the 2nd time around)

ibkickin

Godslayer

Without a doubt Godslayer. At least with the other two I can make progress over time, Godslayer though without buying it is just beyond me.

SickleCider

Godslayer

Master Angler took me about a week to finish (off and on fishing), about an hour per zone (sometimes less). Fish Bowl + green tree passives help a ton.

Black Market Mogul took me about a month to complete after I decided to gun for it. Just a few minutes daily stealing at the Daggerfall docks. Occasionally, late at night, I'd visit the safebox room in Bal Foyen. I don't know what my progress was before that, but I remember it was a good chunk without having been trying.

On PS4/PS5 it's hard to even get a group together that's interested in doing vet dungeons, let alone vet trials. There just aren't a lot of try hards. Prog groups fall apart because the vetting process just isn't there, on account of general lack of interest. I have aforementioned Flawless Conquerer but it's going to be a long winter before I start to think getting Godslayer is even possible.