Is 30 world bosses overkill compared to other options?

Starlight_Whisper

What do you think?

Red_Feather

I won't get it done. It'll hopefully get some world boss tours going which could help farm leads. I think right now just do yourself a favour and ignore endeavours. I see no good from it.

zelaminator

30 on a week is not really that hard.. I normally engage them when I run past their location anyway

Delfelnias

I did the weekly by hitting cyrodiil resource camp guard with a fire ballista. It's way faster than attacking keep walls (you do 8k initial damage + DoT for every guard you hit)

ajkb78

It's by far the most time consuming. You can jump into Cyrodiil and do the 7 cropsford quests in 20 minutes (like I did earlier). If you have a toon of the right colour that owns the town and go at a reasonably quiet time or in a dead campaign it's easy. The siege one is a bit more time consuming, but if you regularly PvP it will just come without doing anything out of the ordinary. I think 10-15 world bosses would have been more comparable to the other options, and also more comparable to the daily rate (20 seals for killing 1 world boss for a daily, but for 250 (12.5 as many seals) you have to kill 30 times as many world bosses in the weekly.

nukk3r

You have a week to kill 30 world bosses, if you clear 1 zone a day it'll take 5 days. Shouldn't take more than an hour per zone, even solo and with long boss respawn times.

The other two endeavors are there because MYM starts on Thursday. 400k siege damage can be pretty grindy too if someone has no idea how siege weaponry works and how much damage it deals, but even then it's possible to shoot the door with a ballista 200 times in one week.

Danikat

I think it's possible to kill 30 bosses in a week (although I wouldn't do it in a normal week) but I agree that it seems out of proportion with the other two.

I suspect people are right that they're trying to push people towards the PvP ones because of Midyear Mayhem and probably wanted to make sure they could be completed after it starts on Thursday, whereas the PvE one is something that would normally be spaced out over the whole week.

Grandchamp1989

It's not so much killing 30 world bosses as it is how the PVP options are so much easier and faster to complete compared to the PVE option.

I think Zos want to push us more into PVP...

Parasaurolophus

Just do dayliks in the acute zone, bosses are always killed there.

Edaphon

The thinking behind it was probably to give us a time-consuming weekly with a very low risk of failure and shorter weeklies with a higher risk due to other players fighting you.

But they implemented it in a way that doesn't really accomplish what they were after. The siege weapon weekly is just ridiculously short and doesn't even require you to go anywhere near an enemy player because you can just shoot NPCs in a remote corner of the map.

ajkb78

Danikat wrote: »

I think it's possible to kill 30 bosses in a week (although I wouldn't do it in a normal week) but I agree that it seems out of proportion with the other two.

I suspect people are right that they're trying to push people towards the PvP ones because of Midyear Mayhem and probably wanted to make sure they could be completed after it starts on Thursday, whereas the PvE one is something that would normally be spaced out over the whole week.

No, weeklies were similar on PTS, there were some PVE and some PVP. I remember the 30 world bosses one being there on PTS, I think another was complete 5 dungeons or something (which is quicker, can grind that in FG1 in 20 minutes, but you'll probably do it anyway without making any special effort). This is the worst of the pve ones from memory, as unless you're busy clearing zones or farming the kill 30 zone world boss achievements, it's not something everyone would necessarily do, at least not 5 per day. Whereas almost every pve player averages a dungeon per day, and almost every PvP player uses siege on a regular basis. It's no biggie, I'll just do one of the other weeklies when that one pops up, but it is unbalanced with the number of seals per world boss compared to the daily "kill a world boss" endeavour and it is something you likely have to go out of your way to do unlike the other choices (and unlike the other pve weekly endeavours when they pop up).

There being 2 PvP ones is nothing to do with midyear mayhem, it's just some of the random pool if possible weeklies, there's always at least one PvP and at least one pve, so some weeks there will be 2 PvP 1 pve and other weeks I guess there will be 2 pve and 1 PvP.

colossalvoids

It's a matter of choice, if you want it fast go Cyro obviously, but wb's can get you some gear to sell, leads and daily quest rewards as motives etc. along the way. Plus it's a weekly, you have plenty of time for that anyway.

iksde

Edaphon wrote: »

The thinking behind it was probably to give us a time-consuming weekly with a very low risk of failure and shorter weeklies with a higher risk due to other players fighting you.

But they implemented it in a way that doesn't really accomplish what they were after. The siege weapon weekly is just ridiculously short and doesn't even require you to go anywhere near an enemy player because you can just shoot NPCs in a remote corner of the map.

seems they wanted to push players into dead content for most which has been destroyed by beautifull balance here along with still overbuffing some classes/builds (stamina)
they are trying with force to pretend this content/map is not dead

JamieAubrey

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

It's not so much killing 30 world bosses as it is how the PVP options are so much easier and faster to complete compared to the PVE option.

I think Zos want to push us more into PVP...

Just wait until its kill 100 players and see how much the PVE'ers complain

Luke_Flamesword

People will kill World Bosses like crazy now - just travel through base zones (easiest bosses) and join random fights. You can also ask guilds or zone chat to make a group, so not a big deal.

Sometimes I think that even if ZOS gave us thousands of seals just for login, people would be still complain.

It's weekly task, so it's not for almost free like daily ones. You have option to do it fast but in PvP environment or slowly and grindy, but in comfort, overland conditions.

Old_Foggy

I have bagged 18 of the bosses so far, so no I don't see 30 being too many.

pklemming

Killed the 30 WB in a couple of hours, jumping from zone to zone and completing bosses I had missed. Longer than 7 quests, but not really difficult.

Curryganz

not that hard, honestly. There's always someone camping in front of one so it can be done very quickly, certainly in less than a week (I did it in five hours)

Andyhunter21

Starlight_Whisper wrote: »

What do you think?

its literally just 4-5 a day you cant be serious....

markulrich1966

on xbox you can camp at the 3 werewolf bosses close to the exorcised cottage home in Glenumbra. Just beside a dolmen, so always people around farming dolmen + bosses. Takes a while to do it 30 times, but an option for low level players who cannot solo basegame bosses yet.

In Stormhaven, there is a strange "boss", somewhere in the center, consisting only of 3 bannekin. Takes 10 seconds to kill this "boss".

Other suggestions?

BalticBlues

IT SUCKS that 2 of 3 weekly options are PvP
when probably 90% of players only do PvE.

I even liked PvP before, but after Update 30
there is NO WAY I go into Stamina-PvP again with my patch-crippled MagToons.

So the 30 WBs are a MUST this week.
Even though 30 is a bit much in my opinion because this will need HOURS of boss riding/waiting.

bmnoble

4- 5 world bosses a day to get it done before the reset. Just join in the Summerset WB groups doing the daily quest shares.

Then again it took me under 30 minutes to do the 7 daily quests in Cropsford, so long as you have an alt for the faction that controls the town I don't see those kinda weekly's being hard to do at all, if the town gets taken over switch to another campaign or another character you will get the 7 done easily enough.

Be a different story once Mid year mayhem starts up though and people start camping the towns but the rest of the year I don't see it being that hard to do.

As for the do damage with siege weapons if you siege keeps as part of your regular PVP you will get it done easily, one person mentioned they got it in a few shots of a meatbag catapult in zone chat while I was doing the town dailies.

Danikat

ajkb78 wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

I think it's possible to kill 30 bosses in a week (although I wouldn't do it in a normal week) but I agree that it seems out of proportion with the other two.

I suspect people are right that they're trying to push people towards the PvP ones because of Midyear Mayhem and probably wanted to make sure they could be completed after it starts on Thursday, whereas the PvE one is something that would normally be spaced out over the whole week.

No, weeklies were similar on PTS, there were some PVE and some PVP. I remember the 30 world bosses one being there on PTS, I think another was complete 5 dungeons or something (which is quicker, can grind that in FG1 in 20 minutes, but you'll probably do it anyway without making any special effort). This is the worst of the pve ones from memory, as unless you're busy clearing zones or farming the kill 30 zone world boss achievements, it's not something everyone would necessarily do, at least not 5 per day. Whereas almost every pve player averages a dungeon per day, and almost every PvP player uses siege on a regular basis. It's no biggie, I'll just do one of the other weeklies when that one pops up, but it is unbalanced with the number of seals per world boss compared to the daily "kill a world boss" endeavour and it is something you likely have to go out of your way to do unlike the other choices (and unlike the other pve weekly endeavours when they pop up).

There being 2 PvP ones is nothing to do with midyear mayhem, it's just some of the random pool if possible weeklies, there's always at least one PvP and at least one pve, so some weeks there will be 2 PvP 1 pve and other weeks I guess there will be 2 pve and 1 PvP.

I'm aware that there were usually a mix of PvE and PvP weeklies on the PTS. My point was about the fact that they paired up a relatively time consuming PvE weekly with two relatively easy PvP ones, including one which you yourself said most PvP players do anyway.

It looks like what they want is the majority of people deciding it would be much easier and quicker to do the PvP ones, even if they normally only play PvE, especially since it's likely to coincide with a PvP event.

Taco_Tuesday

It sounds like a hard task to complete, but I think its fine... Mainly because it gives you a week to complete it. Also being that this new system is going to be so popular that you are going to see lots of people waiting to complete the task... Just be alert and get your hit in on the boss before its dead.

fizl101

markulrich1966 wrote: »

on xbox you can camp at the 3 werewolf bosses close to the exorcised cottage home in Glenumbra. Just beside a dolmen, so always people around farming dolmen + bosses. Takes a while to do it 30 times, but an option for low level players who cannot solo basegame bosses yet.

In Stormhaven, there is a strange "boss", somewhere in the center, consisting only of 3 bannekin. Takes 10 seconds to kill this "boss".

Other suggestions?

Can I ask where those banekin are please?

ajkb78

Danikat wrote: »

ajkb78 wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

I think it's possible to kill 30 bosses in a week (although I wouldn't do it in a normal week) but I agree that it seems out of proportion with the other two.

I suspect people are right that they're trying to push people towards the PvP ones because of Midyear Mayhem and probably wanted to make sure they could be completed after it starts on Thursday, whereas the PvE one is something that would normally be spaced out over the whole week.

No, weeklies were similar on PTS, there were some PVE and some PVP. I remember the 30 world bosses one being there on PTS, I think another was complete 5 dungeons or something (which is quicker, can grind that in FG1 in 20 minutes, but you'll probably do it anyway without making any special effort). This is the worst of the pve ones from memory, as unless you're busy clearing zones or farming the kill 30 zone world boss achievements, it's not something everyone would necessarily do, at least not 5 per day. Whereas almost every pve player averages a dungeon per day, and almost every PvP player uses siege on a regular basis. It's no biggie, I'll just do one of the other weeklies when that one pops up, but it is unbalanced with the number of seals per world boss compared to the daily "kill a world boss" endeavour and it is something you likely have to go out of your way to do unlike the other choices (and unlike the other pve weekly endeavours when they pop up).

There being 2 PvP ones is nothing to do with midyear mayhem, it's just some of the random pool if possible weeklies, there's always at least one PvP and at least one pve, so some weeks there will be 2 PvP 1 pve and other weeks I guess there will be 2 pve and 1 PvP.

I'm aware that there were usually a mix of PvE and PvP weeklies on the PTS. My point was about the fact that they paired up a relatively time consuming PvE weekly with two relatively easy PvP ones, including one which you yourself said most PvP players do anyway.

It looks like what they want is the majority of people deciding it would be much easier and quicker to do the PvP ones, even if they normally only play PvE, especially since it's likely to coincide with a PvP event.

I'd be very surprised if the endeavours were hand picked at all. It'll be generated by server RNG, probably in 2 steps: 1, decide if it's 2 pve and 1 PvP or the other way round, 2, pick random endeavours from the pools of possible pve and PvP endeavours.

Why would ZoS do it manually when a computer subroutine can do it automatically? More manual input required = less profit.

Jaimeh

Yes, time-wise it's the most consuming option. I think sieging is the fastest, and I think it's worth it even for players who hate to go into Cyrodiil. It took me less than 20 minutes, including riding around. My advice is to have a lot of siege in the inventory in case you are attacked and have to abandon them, use 3-4 at a time ideally at a remote keep, and try not to flag it, just move on to another structure before it flags.

markulrich1966

fizl101 wrote: »

markulrich1966 wrote: »

on xbox you can camp at the 3 werewolf bosses close to the exorcised cottage home in Glenumbra. Just beside a dolmen, so always people around farming dolmen + bosses. Takes a while to do it 30 times, but an option for low level players who cannot solo basegame bosses yet.

In Stormhaven, there is a strange "boss", somewhere in the center, consisting only of 3 bannekin. Takes 10 seconds to kill this "boss".

Other suggestions?

Can I ask where those banekin are please?

If I remember correct, it is the abandonned farm, see map here: https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Stormhaven+World+Bosses

North-west of Dro Dara Plantation wayshrine.

fizl101

markulrich1966 wrote: »

fizl101 wrote: »

markulrich1966 wrote: »

on xbox you can camp at the 3 werewolf bosses close to the exorcised cottage home in Glenumbra. Just beside a dolmen, so always people around farming dolmen + bosses. Takes a while to do it 30 times, but an option for low level players who cannot solo basegame bosses yet.

In Stormhaven, there is a strange "boss", somewhere in the center, consisting only of 3 bannekin. Takes 10 seconds to kill this "boss".

Other suggestions?

Can I ask where those banekin are please?

If I remember correct, it is the abandonned farm, see map here: https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Stormhaven+World+Bosses

Have an awesome, thank you

EF321

colossalvoids wrote: »

if you want it fast go Cyro obviously, but wb's can get you some gear to sell

A lot of cyro sets worth a ton.

Taco_Tuesday

Just a Quick Tip

The task is account bound, so it can be completed by multiple characters working for the same goal... The grindy part of this task is the traveling from Boss to Boss. So park your toons at the boss locations, log in kill a boss or just get a hit in (there is going to be a lot of people running bosses, so there is going to be lots of help), change toons located at a different boss and repeat.