Weekly endeavors are now live

Abigail

LOL ... so we're expected to waste so much time that way way down the road we might acquire some BS prize? No thank you.

markulrich1966

is it 30 bosses per character, or per account?

Monte_Cristo

markulrich1966 wrote: »

is it 30 bosses per character, or per account?

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Brrrofski

Everyone always says it's pvp players thatu camp towns.

As someone who has PvPed for 6 years let me tell you, that the only people that "camp" towns during midyear mayhem is other PvE players looking for easy kills.

PvP players are off PvPing.

Sure, if they're in Bruma or one of the other two towns to capture them, people will kill everyone on sight. But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

bmnoble

Did the Cropsford dailies on the faction locked campaign PC/NA had no issues then again my mains a pact character and the town was kept under pact control took under half an hour with travel time if that.

Spared some AD questers was glad to see others doing the same, 3 other pact players and myself let an AD player pass on there way out of a delve, mostly left the ones coming into town alone so long as they did not touch the flag, those that did beyond clearing the guards to get into the building for the quest giver or those that attacked first got cut down by pact players there though.

Got alts for the other factions don't think I will mind if the other towns are used in future for weekly quests like this, then again who knows what my luck could be like on the unlocked campaign if it comes to that.

Starlight_Whisper

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

Gythral wrote: »

And they are already 'DEAD'

15x the work for very little reward or just gonna be camped by gamkers

Just go in an empty campaign, doing the quest in Cropsford take like 10 mins.
And no Pvpers will camp that place just to kill some stray PVers, we have better things to do

Says you...I remember getting chased half way across the map because they wouldn't let me go.

Starlight_Whisper

30 world bosses doesn't seem balanced compared to other 2 no?

zelaminator

Brrrofski wrote: »

Everyone always says it's pvp players thatu camp towns.

As someone who has PvPed for 6 years let me tell you, that the only people that "camp" towns during midyear mayhem is other PvE players looking for easy kills.

PvP players are off PvPing.

Sure, if they're in Bruma or one of the other two towns to capture them, people will kill everyone on sight. But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

Great, now let me tell you the same story, from over 25 years as a PvE player.. There is always a group of PvP players just waiting for such a chance, such an event.. you can always recognize them on gear, behaviour and builds.. that same person who chases/kills you again and again and again, even though you don't fight back, don't have anything for him to gain as a reward, nothing.. those players who never have understood, and never will, that in the long run it will only bring less players to the PvP activity.. it's the person who don't care about anything else than winning, no matter what it takes

Treeshka

You can complete this week without even going Cyrodiil anyway. If you want to do the Cyrodiil ones, well you can get a fire ballista and hit the guards from afar in a castle's resource that is not controlled by your alliance. It would take a few minutes to complete the daily and not every resource is being guarded by player.

Flamebait

Brrrofski wrote: »

Everyone always says it's pvp players thatu camp towns.

As someone who has PvPed for 6 years let me tell you, that the only people that "camp" towns during midyear mayhem is other PvE players looking for easy kills.

PvP players are off PvPing.

Sure, if they're in Bruma or one of the other two towns to capture them, people will kill everyone on sight. But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

In no-cp NA right now there are 2 magblades one is rank 47 the other is 43 and an overlord DK camping people trying to do the quest so yeah. How many PvE players are a rank 40+ is that? There were a couple others there as well mostly in the 20 rank wise. This is gonna be an interesting round.

Danikat

Luckily Monday is my day off and I'm only busy in the afternoon, so I was able to be online this morning. I went into Cyrodiil on a low level character and was able to do the 7 Cropsford dailies without trouble. I did see some players from other alliances but they were just doing the quests and we left each other alone.

Normally I'd go for the PvE weekly but it would take a lot more time to finish (I guess they're trying to encourage people to do Midyear Mayhem).

Also I just realised if it's next week I won't be able to do most of Midyear Mayhem or any of the weekly as I'll be away the entire time. That seems weird, for the past year or so I haven't had to worry about that. Now I'm glad I kept up my habit of ending events with 10-12 tickets.

Jaraal

Treeshka wrote: »

If you want to do the Cyrodiil ones, well you can get a fire ballista and hit the guards from afar in a castle's resource that is not controlled by your alliance. It would take a few minutes to complete the daily and not every resource is being guarded by player.

That's a good point. You can set up at maximum range from a resource flag and hit the four NPCs guarding it, who will take around 11,500 damage per hit (depending on your personal damage modifiers). And if you are at max range the guards can't wander from their spawn point far enough to hurt you much.

Elsonso

Atrael7 wrote: »

I assume two out of three of these are there specifically because of MYM, but they both require no PVP to accomplish. Why not replace one of those with something like "Kill or assist on 100 players in Cyrodiil, Imperial City or Battlegrounds." That way everyone's happy.

The idea is to get inexperienced PVE players to go into Cyrodiil so they will get ganked, have a terrible experience, and never want to go back there.

Edaphon wrote: »

Just did some siege testing to see what counts as damage.

Answer: pretty much everything. Enemy players, Keep walls, enemy siege weapons and even random NPCs (sorry, little wolves ).

Can players attack and repair their own Alliance keep walls? Asking for a friend.

Brrrofski wrote: »

But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

Who knew that so many people playing in Cyrodiil were comedians.

Yeah, PVP players will look for PVE players. They are an easy way to finish the "kill X" type missions and endeavors, and they don't fight back. It may not be the normal or popular thing for PVP players to do, but the entire Cyrodiil campaign doesn't need to be there to make life hell for the PVE players who aren't there for PVP.

Edaphon

Elsonso wrote: »

Can players attack and repair their own Alliance keep walls? Asking for a friend.

I actually tried that as well. It doesn't work.

Kiralyn2000

Neriala wrote: »

I know they would not gift anything but the reward of 250 seals for the weekly endeavor is more than disappointing; you get more per week with the daily endeavors. At least i had expected 1000 seals :-( am i a dreamer? seems so

Definitely a dreamer. 250 is almost higher than I expected. (based on similar systems in other games)

Abigail wrote: »

LOL ... so we're expected to waste so much time that way way down the road we might acquire some BS prize? No thank you.

You're not "expected" to do anything. It's another option, for the people who've been clamoring for years to have an alternate way to get those "BS prizes".

Some people will just get the Endeavors without even looking at them, by their regular gameplay. Some will look at the Endeavors and deliberately focus their gameplay to bang them out. And others will just ignore the whole thing.

Just like everything else you can do in this game. No-one is holding a gun to your head to make you do it. /shrug


(me, I'm skipping this week. I can't imagine killing that many world bosses. And I don't pvp.)

Bl4ckR3alm93

Edaphon wrote: »

30 world bosses?! Im fine with that and 250 endeavors is good in my opinion!

sarahthes

Elsonso wrote: »

Atrael7 wrote: »

I assume two out of three of these are there specifically because of MYM, but they both require no PVP to accomplish. Why not replace one of those with something like "Kill or assist on 100 players in Cyrodiil, Imperial City or Battlegrounds." That way everyone's happy.

The idea is to get inexperienced PVE players to go into Cyrodiil so they will get ganked, have a terrible experience, and never want to go back there.

Edaphon wrote: »

Just did some siege testing to see what counts as damage.

Answer: pretty much everything. Enemy players, Keep walls, enemy siege weapons and even random NPCs (sorry, little wolves ).

Can players attack and repair their own Alliance keep walls? Asking for a friend.

Brrrofski wrote: »

But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

Who knew that so many people playing in Cyrodiil were comedians.

Yeah, PVP players will look for PVE players. They are an easy way to finish the "kill X" type missions and endeavors, and they don't fight back. It may not be the normal or popular thing for PVP players to do, but the entire Cyrodiil campaign doesn't need to be there to make life hell for the PVE players who aren't there for PVP.

Usually the sorts of pvpers who camp quest areas are almost as squishy as their prey. Push back a little and you'll find they die pretty fast.

That's been my experience, and I'm a potato at PvP.

paulychan

so the weekly endeavor is to bomb people at cropsford?

spartaxoxo

Brrrofski wrote: »

Everyone always says it's pvp players thatu camp towns.

As someone who has PvPed for 6 years let me tell you, that the only people that "camp" towns during midyear mayhem is other PvE players looking for easy kills.

PvP players are off PvPing.

Sure, if they're in Bruma or one of the other two towns to capture them, people will kill everyone on sight. But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

I mean I've seen PvPers bragging about it, so...

I think it's mostly people who aren't that good and so won't to pick on someone weaker than them and troll personality types that enjoy making people miserable.

Blacknight841

Selling 10 items to merchant - 5 seconds
Doing 30 world bosses - 3 hours
Realizing that the daily rewards 1000x better rate …. Priceless

what_the

Blacknight841 wrote: »

Selling 10 items to merchant - 5 seconds
Doing 30 world bosses - 3 hours
Realizing that the daily rewards 1000x better rate …. Priceless

People are already completing the weekly with ease...
About 60 a day for dailies
250 for weekly
that's around 670 for the week, for very little extra effort in your daily gameplay, which will enable you to get crate items for free

Ackwalan

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

That third one is going to be majorly camped all week.

It looks like the unlocked campaign will be taking turns owning crops.

Danikat

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Everyone always says it's pvp players thatu camp towns.

As someone who has PvPed for 6 years let me tell you, that the only people that "camp" towns during midyear mayhem is other PvE players looking for easy kills.

PvP players are off PvPing.

Sure, if they're in Bruma or one of the other two towns to capture them, people will kill everyone on sight. But this idea that there's 20 pvp players waiting in sneak for an hour just to gank one person who won't fight back is hilarious.

I mean I've seen PvPers bragging about it, so...

I think it's mostly people who aren't that good and so won't to pick on someone weaker than them and troll personality types that enjoy making people miserable.

My favourite was when I picked up a sky shard inside an enemy base, then wanted to leave Cyrodiil and also wanted to get a drink in real life, so I left my character sitting on a bench in the hope someone would kill me and save the trouble of running back.

I came back two minutes later to see one person tea-bagging my corpse while their friend danced and cheered next to them as if 2 players killing 1 afk person was the greatest achievement in the history of PvP. I mean, maybe they were little kids and it was their first time playing a PvP game but even so seeing anyone act pleased about that was pretty funny.

SeaGtGruff

If you look at the average number of seals rewarded per endeavor so far-- as opposed to per day-- then 250 seals for 1 weekly endeavor seems pretty generous to me as compared to 20 seals for 1 daily endeavor.

The fact is, we know from the news announcement a few months ago that (1) the number of seals rewarded per endeavor is going to vary, as we've already seen with the daily endeavors; and (2) the number of endeavors we can complete each day and each week is also going to vary, which we've yet to see other than the difference between the daily cap and the weekly cap.

Right now, it's too early to tell what the average number of seals per daily endeavor is going to be, or even what the average cap on the daily endeavors is going to be, let alone the averages for the weekly endeavors.

The closest comparison might be to the daily login rewards, and the way they vary in both quantity and quality from day to day and month to month. For instance, some months we get a free pet; other months we don't. Some days we get X number of potions; other days we get Y number of the same type of potions.

I think it's great that 2 out of 3 of this week's weekly endeavors include activities in Cyrodiil, given that Midyear Mayhem will presumably be starting later this week, because it suggests that future weekly endeavors are likely to be chosen to correlate with special events or celebrations that might be going on that week, which means a lot of players are likely to be engaged in those types of activities anyway and will be able to earn their weekly endeavors quite easily.

As for the endeavor which requires doing a number of job quests in a specific city in Cyrodiil, the point about players who are likely to camp out in that city in an attempt to harvest questers is well made, but past celebrations in Cyrodiil have shown that there are usually skilled PvP players from each alliance who will gladly root out the campers so that PvE questers can do the city job quests. Also, this is going to encourage me to do all of the job quests in that city, which I haven't already done yet.

Besides, we can complete only 1 of this week's 3 weekly endeavors, and 1 of them is a PvE endeavor that doesn't require going to Cyrodiil at all, which should help keep everyone happy.