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Pariah
regime211
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It needs a nerf, seeing as it will be the most used set, and it will keep people from dieing due to getting a lot of resistance in the back end.
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Pepegrillos✭✭✭✭✭The armor given by the 5 piece (which varies according to health %) was nerfed already a few patches ago.7
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Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't we get enough nerfs already? ._.Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.20 -
Marcus_Aurelius✭✭✭✭✭It will keep people from dieing to a ganker.
It will not keep people from dieing in a fair fight.
I like it.18 -
Spurius_Lucilius✭✭✭Comparing it to Fortified Brass, the set is definitely very strong.PC NA Casual/PVP0 -
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It won't. Dmg is way too high this update for a min-max tank to survive vs min-max ganker or bomber.Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »It will keep people from dieing to a ganker.
It will not keep people from dieing in a fair fight.
I like it.
I mean, compared to survivability & sustain sets, dmg dealing sets are unproportionally stronger.3 -
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✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »What a weird mindset. Asking for nerfs.
Why? Balance is the goal - which surely means addressing the outliers.
Surely the weird mindset is to do this with only buffs?
Buff 300 sets instead of nerfing one..? I'm not sure that's the best use of the Devs' time. Not to mention they would then have to go and buff all the mobs too, to match all those buffed sets...
Minalan owes me a beer.
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Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭It helps, but not that much either.
Perhaps revise your build before asking for nerfs and don't hard focus tanky targets
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LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »This set is so old. Why are people wanting it nerfed suddenly lol
Because ganking is so good in PvP now with U30.
Gankers want to 1-hit or 2-hit kill everyone. Pariah prevents gankers from achieving 1 that, so they want to nerf this set.No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.8 -
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✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »What a weird mindset. Asking for nerfs.
Why? Balance is the goal - which surely means addressing the outliers.
Surely the weird mindset is to do this with only buffs?
Buff 300 sets instead of nerfing one..? I'm not sure that's the best use of the Devs' time. Not to mention they would then have to go and buff all the mobs too, to match all those buffed sets...
Well... for one, specifically in regard to this thread, Pariah isn't an outlier by any means.
But if balance is the goal, then there should be a mix of small incremental buffs as well as the occasional small incremental nerfs. Continually trying to nerf the "outliers" or those elements perceived to be over performing just leads to an endless cycle of nerfs that results in an eventually lackluster element, whether that be a skill, passive, or gear set. It's like one of those comedic scenarios when someone attempts to even out a wobbly table by cutting down the other legs. There's always one that gets cut down a bit too short leading to cutting more off. Eventually the table is only a foot off of the ground, and useless.
This is especially concerning when one considers that ZOS' approach to "balance" over the more recent years has been less scalpel-precision and more sledgehammer demolition. Or has the decimation of all DoTs left our memory too quickly. When player skills have consistently seen their power and unique utility removed in favor of "spreadsheet balancing" wrought by widespread nerfs, resulting in drastically fluctuating metas, I don't think it is weird at all to be completely tired of nerfs and subsequently the request for more of them.2 -
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✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »This set is so old. Why are people wanting it nerfed suddenly lol
He probably recently tried to kill someone wearing Pariah and couldn't close out the fight, or got rocked, so he wants the gear his opponent was wearing nerfed.8 -
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✭Spurius_Lucilius wrote: »Comparing it to Fortified Brass, the set is definitely very strong.
Exactly it needs to be adjusted just like every other set.0 -
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✭Mythreindeer wrote: »
Because that set is now being mentioned in a lot of builds for blackwood, it now has been talked about being the "New Meta"0 -
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✭✭Mythreindeer wrote: »
Because that set is now being mentioned in a lot of builds for blackwood, it now has been talked about being the "New Meta"
Something being apart of the current metagame doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed.3 -
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✭✭✭That set has been around for a while. Its okay, but doesn't turn your build into god-mode in PVP2 -
Extinct_Solo_Player✭✭✭✭✭Mythreindeer wrote: »
Because that set is now being mentioned in a lot of builds for blackwood, it now has been talked about being the "New Meta"
So, that means everything that seems to be good needs to get nerfed? Just look at the amount of sets turned into trash because they were over nerfed to oblivion due to clueless players complaining just for the sake of it. What you seem to not comprehend is that people will just find another alternative and the cycle repeats lol.4 -
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✭Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »Mythreindeer wrote: »
Because that set is now being mentioned in a lot of builds for blackwood, it now has been talked about being the "New Meta"
So, that means everything that seems to be good needs to get nerfed? Just look at the amount of sets turned into trash because they were over nerfed to oblivion due to clueless players complaining just for the sake of it. What you seem to not comprehend is that people will just find another alternative and the cycle repeats lol.
Just balanced like the rest of the sets that is all.1 -
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✭Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »Don't we get enough nerfs already? ._.
nooooooo :-)
nerf everything! nerf itallllllllllllllll
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✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »What a weird mindset. Asking for nerfs.
Why? Balance is the goal - which surely means addressing the outliers.
Surely the weird mindset is to do this with only buffs?
Buff 300 sets instead of nerfing one..? I'm not sure that's the best use of the Devs' time. Not to mention they would then have to go and buff all the mobs too, to match all those buffed sets...
Then if balance is the goal....THEY SHOULD NERF (BAN) TF OUT OF CHEATING BOOSTERS!!
At this point it is so bad, it is the worst thing in PvP. Far past any skill class or gear.
Pathetic player(s) that are not even playing PvP. They’re just using a few co-cheaters to BOOST MASSIVE AP TICKS. They don’t bother with even PvPing and fighting actual opponents or the real grind.
There is no balance till BOOSTERS get their accounts banned. Make it happen ZOS !!
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Have videos and screens showing the worst offenders. Showing just plain straight up cheating.
Buff fair play or to a reasonable amount.Edited by Girl_Number8 on June 9, 2021 4:27AM0 -
ResidentContrarian✭✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »This set is so old. Why are people wanting it nerfed suddenly lol
Because, other options have been nerfed.
The truth is, since Fortified Brass nerf it has always been part of the "secret meta" because it provides enough resistances in one 5-piece that you can stack damage or sustain on all other pieces.
For stam in many cases you don't need to bother stacking sustain (like on stam sorc), but that's also true for someone in a group or faction stack scenario.
With the addition of Gaze of Sithis + this set, it allows a definite amount of defense and tankiness in the game that wasn't allowed before without sacrifice.
Start adding in skills that give % reduction in damage, stam being able to stack lots of damage, etc. and you get a few godmode stam builds that are more powerful than any other build pre-proc nerf, but even moreso, more powerful than any other build when speaking of build power in PvP relatively.
Players that are "in the know" already know what I mean, but hey...better to pretend it's not the case.
That's why I said Gaze, even nerfed is a bad idea.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »nerf everything! nerf itallllllllllllllll
Don't worry. If there's a way to nerf something, ZOS will find it.
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✭1. Stamblade can't gank a DK in Pariah.
2. Go to forum and call for Pariah nerf.
What's next?
Pariah has a huge drawback. When you get those juicy resistances, you are already low on health.
Maybe you want to nerf Buffer of the Swift next? Pariah already got a nerf some time ago, as did Fortified Brass. Oh, let's not talk about Bastion of the Heartland which is a pile of garbage now. We already saw several other defensive sets recently nerfed, like Eternal Vigor or Orgnum's Scales (through health recovery nerf). That's the reason you see Pariah now, everything else gets stomped.
Which defensive set would you recommend if Pariah is considered OP?Edited by vesselwiththepestle on June 9, 2021 6:42AM1000+ CP
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