Account Wide Achievements and Titles, Yay or Nay?

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes

I am split. I absolutely support account wide achievements, or more accurately, an account wide achievement page in addition to the current character pages we already have. I do not believe the current character pages should be removed. Some people want to play each character completely fresh and they should absolutely have that option.

I do question whether titles should be part of the account wide discussion. They seem to be more appropriate to the character only. That said, I would rather them both be account wide than the status quo where neither of them are, so I voted yes.

JadonSky

Yes

Also mount training should be account wide

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes

achoo420 wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

Titles? Big no. Achievements should stay individual as well. But I would like an account wide achievement overview, that would be great.

already a thing on PC if you got the addon.

I haven't messed with the addon, but I am aware it exists. Lets take an achievement that requires you to kill 100 of whatever monster in a given dungeon. If I kill 60 on one character and 40 on another, will it give me the achievement in the addon? It's my understanding that it would not. This is where I find that solution to be lacking. I think its silly that I should have to do that on one character for it to count, unless there is a specific title associated with. Virtually every other game I can think of, achievements of this type can be done on multiple play throughs which is sort of the equivalent to doing it on alts. In other words, even the account wide achievement addon can potentially underrepresent what your point total should be, at least to my understanding.

tmbrinks wrote: »

Implement the Kyoma's Global Achievement add-on for everybody, so you can "see" where your overall account would be. Fine, sure, I use it (even if I've earned every achievement on my main personally to get to my total, there have been times that wasn't the case)

But too many other things are tied to individual characters and achievements that would require massive changes. To name a few.

Skill points are gotten on achievements (PVP in particular)
Motifs learned increase chances of master writ drops (only unlocked when you have the entire purple motif known... which is also when the achievement is earned... )
Titles themselves are given when the achievement is earned, would have to decouple those to make the difference.

it's also enjoyable to go for a title on another character/role/class/spec once you've already done it. Already having the title/achievement on an alt character would cheapen the replayability and make it so I wouldn't want to run through a trial again on say my warden healer instead of my templar healer, or on one of my DPS characters.

This game, IMO, has done a pretty good job of striking that center line between account-wide things and character based things, allowing for replay for those that like achievements/titles, but not requiring players to re-do content dozens of times for cosmetic items.

If the only argument is to "make it easier to buy achievement furnishings on alt characters" I feel that's a weak reason to overhaul an entire system.

I agree titles should be left to the individual character. I cant imagine it would be that difficult to decouple skill points, motifs, etc., from the achievement. If I make a new toon, I would not expect all skill points from my main to automatically be on the new character. If I wanted the title "covenant skyshard hunter" or whatever its called, I would have to go get those on the toon. I should still very easily be able to see if I have collected them all from an account perspective. Sure there would be a handful of achievements that would perhaps have to be given some extra consideration, but I think the difficutly woudl be minimal.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

No

achoo420 wrote: »

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

achoo420 wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

We're not asking for Skill points or level ups. Just achievements and titles. NOTHING MORE

What makes you think a set of players doesn't get their primary enjoyment and base the game's worth on acquiring titles? Making achievements and titles available to characters who have not completed the requirements cheapens the meaning of them no matter how you look at it.

Finding all the rarest things in the game, actually enjoy yourself. The game is starting to feel like a job and not a game.

Then maybe it's time for you to take a break.

IAmBones

No

So much of this game allows some things to be account-wide. I was SHOCKED to find out Champion Points were this way, BUT I was SUPER happy about it. I guess there is a line, and I don't know where it is, but some of the tedious ones should at least be talked about, things like the Fishing Achievement I have done 3 times, it wasn't that bad. I also have 17 toons with Max Crafting and all their research done (which was a challenge to balance and keep track of) is something to think about for the simple reason of the "timing" required for research.

ZOS_Bill

We've decided to close this discussion since it is a rehash of another recent discussion here which was closed for becoming unconstructive.