Account Wide Achievements and Titles, Yay or Nay?

achoo420

This is just a poll to see how many people are actually on board of the idea compared to those whose who oppose. Yes I'm also aware that there was a post about this topic already and is now locked and not up for discussion. I'm just curious and want to see the numbers for myself. We're not asking for skill points, level ups or anything else of the sort. Just Achievements and Titles.

Mythreindeer

No

In before lock for testing dev patience.

achoo420

Yes

Mythreindeer wrote: »

In before lock for testing dev patience.

I may have also been toxic before the lock and I personally do apologize for being that toxic guy. But no need for debates here, just a yes or no so I can see the numbers.

Malthorne

Yes

Achievements, yes ... titles, no

achoo420

Yes

Malthorne wrote: »

Achievements, yes ... titles, no

Please don't do this. I don't want a debate here. Please don't force them to lock this post too. I'm seriously begging.

huntgod_ESO

Yes

I said yes, but mainly for achievements, I don't mind the titles being character specific, though I don't think it's a big deal if those are account wide as well.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

No

Just suggest ZOS sell them in the Crown Store as they do Skyshards and I'm sure they will do it.

Nastassiya

No

No. Just because you can do something on one character doesn't mean you reproduce the same result on another.

jedtb16_ESO

No

lvl 1 running round with grand master crafter title?

that is just silly, get a grip.

Caroloces

No

Achievements are indicators of what content your individual characters have completed. So if my guild wants to do a dungeon, I can check which of my characters needs completion on that particular content. So it seems to me that achievements should remain character bound, not account bound. Otherwise, what's the point?

achoo420

Yes

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

lvl 1 running round with frand master crafter title?

that is just silly, get a grip.

Don't have to use it. Just like you don't have to use your Champion Points on low levels and the outfit station as well. They didn't earn those.

achoo420

Yes

Caroloces wrote: »

Achievements are indicators of what content your individual characters have completed. So if my guild wants to do a dungeon, I can check which of my characters needs completion on that particular content. So it seems to me that achievements should remain character bound, not account bound. Otherwise, what's the point?

Convenience to purchase achievement furniture on one character instead of constantly switching.

Ippokrates

No

No, at least no to all of them. However it would be nice to convert a player account in to "house" or famiglia so particular members could have inherit some of the fame other member got

Nastassiya

No

achoo420 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

lvl 1 running round with frand master crafter title?

that is just silly, get a grip.

Don't have to use it. Just like you don't have to use your Champion Points on low levels and the outfit station as well. They didn't earn those.

The CP thing I can see as unintended but they just shrugged and said "oh well."

Dojohoda

No

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

WeerW3ir

No

enough with this. never gonna happen

Indigogo

No

My position will be tested when a non main picks up an elusive monster trophy... but largely, no. 😁

Holy crap, good point about alliance rank skill points! That would be busted AF.

achoo420

Yes

Dojohoda wrote: »

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

We're not asking for Skill points or level ups. Just achievements and titles. NOTHING MORE

Alinhbo_Tyaka

No

achoo420 wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

We're not asking for Skill points or level ups. Just achievements and titles. NOTHING MORE

What makes you think a set of players doesn't get their primary enjoyment and base the game's worth on acquiring titles? Making achievements and titles available to characters who have not completed the requirements cheapens the meaning of them no matter how you look at it.

Iluvrien

No

achoo420 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

lvl 1 running round with frand master crafter title?

that is just silly, get a grip.

Don't have to use it. Just like you don't have to use your Champion Points on low levels and the outfit station as well. They didn't earn those.

I would be more than happy to see account-wide Champion Points and Outfit Styles go too. I have been vocally against each of these since before they were rolled out.

As such, I'm not sure that likening this to CP and outfits helps your case a great deal.

redspecter23

Achievements yes. I could go either way on titles but would lean toward character based. Because of that, I can't vote.

redspecter23

Dojohoda wrote: »

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

I would assume that the intent of the suggestion would be to give the achievements and title to the account while the skill points would still need to be earned per character. You are assuming that the skill points would be tied to the achievement, but it could just as easily work independently.

TelvanniWizard

Yes

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

lvl 1 running round with grand master crafter title?

that is just silly, get a grip.

As silly as a level 1 with any vetDLC dungeon skin

achoo420

Yes

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

achoo420 wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

What would be the point of playing if I made a new character and it was instantly loaded with all the achievements (and associated skill points) and the other perks that were earned by my old character? My character's alliance war achievements alone would grant 50 skill points to new characters. Imagine going into the game with a new character and not ever seeing the achievement popups. I like those; they are my "atta girl" *wags tail*

We're not asking for Skill points or level ups. Just achievements and titles. NOTHING MORE

What makes you think a set of players doesn't get their primary enjoyment and base the game's worth on acquiring titles? Making achievements and titles available to characters who have not completed the requirements cheapens the meaning of them no matter how you look at it.

Finding all the rarest things in the game, actually enjoy yourself. The game is starting to feel like a job and not a game.

zvavi

No

Titles? Big no. Achievements should stay individual as well. But I would like an account wide achievement overview, that would be great.

achoo420

Yes

zvavi wrote: »

Titles? Big no. Achievements should stay individual as well. But I would like an account wide achievement overview, that would be great.

already a thing on PC if you got the addon.

Tsar_Gekkou

Yes

Your level 3 character can already wear your vCR3 skin while riding your Godslayer mount and people don't whine about that, so having the title along with it is fine.

tmbrinks

No

Implement the Kyoma's Global Achievement add-on for everybody, so you can "see" where your overall account would be. Fine, sure, I use it (even if I've earned every achievement on my main personally to get to my total, there have been times that wasn't the case)

But too many other things are tied to individual characters and achievements that would require massive changes. To name a few.

Skill points are gotten on achievements (PVP in particular)
Motifs learned increase chances of master writ drops (only unlocked when you have the entire purple motif known... which is also when the achievement is earned... )
Titles themselves are given when the achievement is earned, would have to decouple those to make the difference.

it's also enjoyable to go for a title on another character/role/class/spec once you've already done it. Already having the title/achievement on an alt character would cheapen the replayability and make it so I wouldn't want to run through a trial again on say my warden healer instead of my templar healer, or on one of my DPS characters.

This game, IMO, has done a pretty good job of striking that center line between account-wide things and character based things, allowing for replay for those that like achievements/titles, but not requiring players to re-do content dozens of times for cosmetic items.

If the only argument is to "make it easier to buy achievement furnishings on alt characters" I feel that's a weak reason to overhaul an entire system.

ivelbob

Yes

At an achievement vendor trying to buy a sweet furnishing for the house. But on the wrong character who doesn't have the achievement. Have to log out, go through the characters to find who has it and go back in again.

Aubrey_Kidona

No

I like re-earning my achievements and titles on different characters. I have recently switched to a healer main and I have very much enjoyed having to run content I cleared as a DPS to get my titles and achievements on my healer.

Iccotak

Yes

Caroloces wrote: »

Achievements are indicators of what content your individual characters have completed. So if my guild wants to do a dungeon, I can check which of my characters needs completion on that particular content. So it seems to me that achievements should remain character bound, not account bound. Otherwise, what's the point?

Or they can make separate categories for account and character achievements