I'd vote to kick Mirri from a pug dungeon

DjMuscleboy02

Finished the quest, made her look cool, then she 1v1ed a bear and got clowned

i am very disappoint

Netheniel

So Mirri and the bear left you to start a circus? I wish them both success.

Elsonso

She wanted to be a Warden.

Streega

She wanted to be with a Warden, instead she got Mr Musclehead 😝

ThoughtRaven

Look on the brightside. We didn't get any new classes or skill lines, but at least the new "feature" we got is completely useless, and performance hasn't improved at all. Oh, and we got more cp nerfs, and the usual round of new patch bugs. Let ZOS's consistency in delivering only the things we don't want envelope you like a warm toasty blanket.

Woven out of disappointment.

Amazing thread count though.

Thannazzar

This could be a really interesting video theme in the style of `Will it blend?'

We know Mirri cant take a bear, but can Mirri beat a skeever...

Elsonso

Thannazzar wrote: »

This could be a really interesting video theme in the style of `Will it blend?'

We know Mirri cant take a bear, but can Mirri beat a skeever...

Mirri can take a bear. That was actually an early first test that I did on a brand new Mirri in an attempt to see what her DPS was.

Gythral

Can and doing it at a reasonalbe pace is another matter

Public Dungeon trash pack, Mirri aggrod 1, I killed the rest and the next packl & then when looking for where she'd runaway to with that 1 mob! (still at 50% health)

DjMuscleboy02

Elsonso wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

This could be a really interesting video theme in the style of `Will it blend?'

We know Mirri cant take a bear, but can Mirri beat a skeever...

Mirri can take a bear. That was actually an early first test that I did on a brand new Mirri in an attempt to see what her DPS was.

My Mirri sucks then

She stood in it's cone and got knocked down then it finished her off

Amottica

Are we talking about a level 1 companion?

I expect they improve as they are leveled up, get more skills, get better gear.

Elsonso

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

This could be a really interesting video theme in the style of `Will it blend?'

We know Mirri cant take a bear, but can Mirri beat a skeever...

Mirri can take a bear. That was actually an early first test that I did on a brand new Mirri in an attempt to see what her DPS was.

My Mirri sucks then

She stood in it's cone and got knocked down then it finished her off

I don't think people really get that the best way to describe these companions might be as a complicated skill that is shared with all characters on the account. They have a certain amount of autonomy, which is configurable by the player, but they are not a set-it-and-forget-it thing. They requiire that the player learn to use them.

You don't just send them into the tavern and expect hooligans to start flying out the windows.

They are a combat system, a tool, not free DPS/Tank/Heal.

So, no, your Mirri does not suck. Mine was in the garb she came with, and I quickly learned that I needed to help them as they were helping me. When I did that, I was able to do stuff "solo" that I would not have expected to be doing with a character right out of the tutorial, and wearing not much more gear than a costume.

Now, I have not redone all my PTS tests on Live, and don't intend to. Mirri is going to be a ranged DPS healer for a tank character I am leveling. That is a role I did not have time to test on PTS. My tank is level 26, so Mirri has a bit of catching up to do.

Once she is leveled up and geared, and my tank no longer needs her, she will provide ranged DPS and heal support for a melee stamina character.

orion_1981usub17_ESO

Brand new companions should not be expected to bear overland mobs that are leveled to 50 when they are level 1. Best to give them ranged for the early leveling process.

Iccotak

Companions have to be leveled Yes?

SirAndy

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

I'd vote to kick Mirri from a pug dungeon

Why would anyone ever vote to kick another player from a pug dungeon?


It's all about managing one's expectations.
I always go in expecting to have to solo everything. If i get some help, great, if not, no big deal.

I have absolutely zero problem with carrying someone through a pug dungeon.

Elsonso

Iccotak wrote: »

Companions have to be leveled Yes?

Yes. I believe they level to 20.

Klad

I'm not seeing it..my wife and I are hitting all the group dungeons with both companions....they actually do a decent job, of course we have decent gear, consumables and they are maxed out.

I guess YMMV

Vevvev

Only way I got my Companion to not die was make her a purely ranged fighter with the Nightblade AoE fear ability. Also gave her the Mage's Guild meteor spammable, snipe, and funnel health so she could heal herself. Also put her in all medium armor so her peck damage is a little less "pecky".

dsalter

Elsonso wrote: »

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

This could be a really interesting video theme in the style of `Will it blend?'

We know Mirri cant take a bear, but can Mirri beat a skeever...

Mirri can take a bear. That was actually an early first test that I did on a brand new Mirri in an attempt to see what her DPS was.

My Mirri sucks then

She stood in it's cone and got knocked down then it finished her off

I don't think people really get that the best way to describe these companions might be as a complicated skill that is shared with all characters on the account. They have a certain amount of autonomy, which is configurable by the player, but they are not a set-it-and-forget-it thing. They requiire that the player learn to use them..

a new "skill" that cannot be used in relivent content like VET dungeons, PvP or Trials.
they are pure overworld fluff that even when kitted out properly are still outshined by most things.
and this is coming from heavily testing the PTS where it was easier to push the companions to max gear, skill, etc

Elsonso

dsalter wrote: »

a new "skill" that cannot be used in relivent content like VET dungeons, PvP or Trials.
they are pure overworld fluff that even when kitted out properly are still outshined by most things.
and this is coming from heavily testing the PTS where it was easier to push the companions to max gear, skill, etc

It would be wrong to assume that companions will be equally beneficial to every player of the game. As I see it, the people who really need companions are not the people who are doing veteran dungeons and trials. I think that they will work much better with the bottom 2/3rds of the players more than the top 1/3rd.

Starlight_Whisper

Amottica wrote: »

Are we talking about a level 1 companion?

I expect they improve as they are leveled up, get more skills, get better gear.

By lvl 7 I find mine is doing well. 👀 Just take them to a dolmen

radiostar

What's funny is Mirri said "Sera I hope you're watching" so I turned around to watch her and thought whoo she fixing to do something! And all she did was stand there in the red and died. OK, Mirri

ArchMikem

You were expecting the girl to carry you through Vet Falkreath on day one?

Awnia

ArchMikem wrote: »

You were expecting the girl to carry you through Vet Falkreath on day one?

As we all know, a single bear is as difficult to beat as vet fal. 👀

ADarklore

I've been leveling both of the Companions and I have yet to have ANY of them die... at all. I've run them through the guild quests multiple times per day on all my alts, just spent a few hours running dolmens and finally have Mirri to 12 and Bastian to 10... slowly been getting them better gear as they drop.

As has been mentioned above and what I think SO many players don't get... Companions are WORK... you have to level them, grind for their gear, and learn their rapport system. They are not "fire and forget" pets that work from day one like Sorc pets... not at ALL. As I've said in other threads, people's experience with Companions here reminds me of FFXIV and their 'Squadrons'. I kept seeing all these people complaining about how awful they were, how they always died, etc... and yet, when I took the time to level them and learn how to use them properly, I NEVER had a problem getting through any dungeon they could run. All the complaining was simply 'user error', where the players had huge assumptions about them and took no time to actually learn to use them properly. I see the same occurring here with Companions. I've been accused of being a 'companion fanboy' because I post the positives about them, my personal experience with them on LIVE, which is clearly very different from what many people experienced on PTS... so clearly they have been buffed a bit since early PTS, and I do believe late PTS they some people were stating their survivability had improved. HTM posted Youtube vids of Companions in content, he was then accused of only showing controlled situations with them... but personally, I have found what he showed to be spot on. So how is it that I, and many others, can get them to survive while others struggle with them dying? It all goes back to "user error". I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to tell people that if you are having a problem with them, then perhaps you should examine how you're equipping them, what skills (and what order) you're using, what content you're running, etc. NO... you're not going to be running a group dungeon for quite some time and expect them to survive... not until they're fully maxed with the best gear, and even then, you will probably need to slot mostly self-heals and defensive skills. Running overland content, when they're max level, load them up with DPS skills all you want. Just sayin.

Linaleah

Elsonso wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

a new "skill" that cannot be used in relivent content like VET dungeons, PvP or Trials.
they are pure overworld fluff that even when kitted out properly are still outshined by most things.
and this is coming from heavily testing the PTS where it was easier to push the companions to max gear, skill, etc

It would be wrong to assume that companions will be equally beneficial to every player of the game. As I see it, the people who really need companions are not the people who are doing veteran dungeons and trials. I think that they will work much better with the bottom 2/3rds of the players more than the top 1/3rd.

and people for who companions might actualy be helpful? companions are NOT helpful for. they are not going to help you do anything that you couldn't already do solo.

Hapexamendios

I didn't expect anything from them. Sounds like I won't be disappointed.

Toanis

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't think people really get that the best way to describe these companions might be as a complicated skill that is shared with all characters on the account. They have a certain amount of autonomy, which is configurable by the player, but they are not a set-it-and-forget-it thing. They requiire that the player learn to use them.
[...]
They are a combat system, a tool, not free DPS/Tank/Heal.

Warden and Sorc pets are combat systems. They do their job and don't complain about me "killing" bugs.
Give me an animal type companion I can use pet skins on, and I'm okay with them being little more than a fancy skill.

The current companions are supposed to be persons, though, just like quest NPCs like Eveli. And they sure are: They're naggy faultfinders that expect you to adapt to their mindset. Why tolerate them when they're also incompetent in combat?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

radiostar wrote: »

What's funny is Mirri said "Sera I hope you're watching"

Flashback to a Sera from another game, who had a thing for killing dragons. I sure hope *she* is not watching you, Mirri.

Everstorm

Mirri tagged along in solo normal Vaults of Madness and Banished Cells. She died a couple of times but more to adds than during boss fights. These dungeons aren't very hard but for a lvl 9 companion in white armor I was pretty content. Bow dps setup.
Whether she contributed in a meaningful way is of course another question but I don't think it made the run slower eventhough I was trying to taunt stuff off of her here and there with Inner Fire.
Was hoping to get some companion gear but no luck there. Did pick up a blue restoration staff and a blue bow somewhere else though.

Deter1UK

Golly, some people take ESO far too seriously. It's a GAME. Companions are a bit of fun.

If they don't float your boat and you can solo everything in the universe don't use them.

I find them quite amusing.

There is enough stuff IRL to get serious about.

eovogtb16_ESO

Mirri and I have solod harrowstorms together without her dying now. Some of the best fights I've had in ESO, it was a blast. As tank spec and on dps magplar its prettty easy to keep her alive in oh *** with honor the dead slotted. She is lv13 now but getting pretty strong!