Maintenance?

Extinct_Solo_Player

iksde wrote: »

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the maintenance, I was just wondering if they were usually so long...

(now 1:20, so longer even than posted)

i'm not one to care about maintenance, but it really does feel like its for nothing because the server performance is still abysmal.

for me many times it was even worse after these maitenances
not forgetting about some addons stopping their work after maitenance and reinstalling, updating them do nothing

idk how after this maitencna but Im realistic here with ZOS and I downt something will change with LA weaving, clunky animations after an 1-2 maitenances before....skills animations along with block or ligt attacks feel like Im playing 300-500 ping while game is showing basic 90-<200 as always, dps rotation clunky for me from EU on EU server like I was playing on NA server with 400-500+ ping

Yep i experience the exact same thing with below 90 ping, it's been like this ever since they moved most of the things from the client to the server. The patch where we had to redownload the client to improve performance but instead we got much worse delay with casting skills etc with the already previous failing performance. It feels like a major step back which they should have reverted but we are still yet to see it happen.

zharkovian

I was noticing shuttering in the game yesterday, I though it might have been my graphics card overheating, but that was fine at a balmy 65 degrees. The shuttering was quite noticeable at times, especially in the map screen. There are still long pauses when accessing bank, guild bank and traders and I hope they address those issues. Apart from that, I don't see too many issues while playing, but I expect that after the maintenance, and probably the patch, my wife will not be able to login to the game and the post patch timeout issue will be there, I can almost guarantee that is what will happen. I hope at some point they address that issue too.

iksde

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

iksde wrote: »

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the maintenance, I was just wondering if they were usually so long...

(now 1:20, so longer even than posted)

i'm not one to care about maintenance, but it really does feel like its for nothing because the server performance is still abysmal.

for me many times it was even worse after these maitenances
not forgetting about some addons stopping their work after maitenance and reinstalling, updating them do nothing

idk how after this maitencna but Im realistic here with ZOS and I downt something will change with LA weaving, clunky animations after an 1-2 maitenances before....skills animations along with block or ligt attacks feel like Im playing 300-500 ping while game is showing basic 90-<200 as always, dps rotation clunky for me from EU on EU server like I was playing on NA server with 400-500+ ping

Yep i experience the exact same thing with below 90 ping, it's been like this ever since they moved most of the things from the client to the server. The patch where we had to redownload the client to improve performance but instead we got much worse delay with casting skills etc with the already previous failing performance. It feels like a major step back which they should have reverted but we are still yet to see it happen.

maitenances/patches nobody asked for, yet introduced by cost of our time waiting for them and making our experience with game even worse, not even fixing a single significant problem in game but maybe "uncstucking" an spider or deer from overland world from wall or from under the pebble

mrfrontman

iksde wrote: »

maitenances/patches nobody asked for, yet introduced by cost of our time waiting for them and making our experience with game even worse, not even fixing a single significant problem in game but maybe "uncstucking" an spider or deer from overland world from wall or from under the pebble

Wow.. I am mind blown right now.. Maintenance is not something you ASK for, it's a completely regular routine which happens when something needs to be MAINTAINED, i.e. a fix for a serious glitch, exploit, or just regular maintenance.
There is absolutely no "cost" of your time. Nobody is forcing you to sit on your chair and stare at your screen until the servers come back online, go find something else to do and if your experience with the game is just getting worse, find something else to play.
You complain of significant problems yet fail to mention a single one.
Your theory of "unstucking a spider or deer from a wall" is completely false too. Do you honestly believe that sort of thing needs to be done manually? ALL types of NPC's get reset completely automatically upon maintenance, so you've obviously got no clue how maintenance even works.

Please stop stomping your feet like a spoiled 8 year old. You don't own the servers and you're not going to get it your way by making useless posts on the forums. Maintenance will keep happening whether you like it or not.

TwiceBornStar

Goregrinder wrote: »

Yes, they can take this long.

I know, right? I just want to write a couple of things about it because for me that's like group therapy.

*suffering withdrawal symptoms*

ADarklore

I'm just curious about the lengthy maintenance that has now been extended... which is rare... it would be nice if ZOS would at least comment on what's going on and expected ETA for completion.

Goregrinder

Massacre_Wurm wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Yes, they can take this long. So Single player games like Skyrim are ran 100% off your own computer...the maintenance you would perform there would simply to reboot your computer. But ESO is a Massively-Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game, or also known in short as an "MMORPG", or simply "MMO".

MMORPG's use some form of server, which every ESO player connects to from wherever they live. There are different server configurations MMOs utilize, but ESO uses "Megaservers" for each region. So EVERYONE that lives in NA and plays on PC connects to the exact same server, or "Megaserver". That means thousands upon thousands of connections and sessions are made to that server all day long...every day....all hours of the day and night.

That will eventually cause performance problems, much like never rebooting your personal computer for 3 months...eventually you'll notice weird behavior from Windows, like apps crashing, other programs running slow, things not closing correctly, overall slowness, etc. You reboot your machine, maybe update your drivers every so often, etc and then you're back and off to the races.

Servers require similar maintenance. They sometimes require reboots in order to restart services, or apply an update to something, etc. Often times though, maintanence is "scheduled", as part of a proactive effort to minimize downtime. You can either never reboot, wait until SERIOUS problems happen, then do something about it...OR you can reboot every week, even if there are no serious problems, to insure the server is always in a high performance state.

Problems can still happen, however it is common practice to do weekly reboots, which is what normal server maintenance entails, among other things. It's like this...do you wait until your house is really dusty and dirty to vacuum or clean it, only once every like 6 months? Or do you dust and vacuum your house every 2 weeks or so, and perform regular house maintenance (taking out the trash, wiping down counters, cleaning your toilet, etc). It's a similar thing with servers and computers in general.

This is nice and all but i have played dozens of MMOS and usually maintenance is like 1-2 hours during daytime or 3-4 hours at night. Very long regular maintenance like this is ESO's feature.

Not every MMO has the same amount of tech performing maintenance, or same server topology or even same software running their VMs or however they have their servers setup. It's hard to say why ESO's maintenance takes this amount of time without knowing any other variable sin the equation, but what we do know is that maintenance happens in every MMO, and it's practically a requirement for a company to perform, especially when the service they offer is based on accessing their site or servers. It's a necessity, and the length of time varies. I'm sure other teams have their maintenance schedule down pat, but those other games aren't ESO, and there is only one ESO, and this is just how long it takes ESO's team to do it.

ghost_bg_ESO

Sad or annoying part is not that we have maintenance or that it is extended, but how it was handled (Again): Total radio silence all day, banner changed after people noticed that there is servers active already, not in timely matter... People can understand that before lunch of Blackwood ZOS will want to clean as much time for it as possible and in this case force all maintenances in one day, it was just poorly served, but communication is necessary...

iksde

mrfrontman wrote: »

Maintenance is not something you ASK for, it's a completely regular routine which happens when something needs to be MAINTAINED, i.e. a fix for a serious glitch, exploit, or just regular maintenance.

and yet we see no a single fixes in 90% of these maitenances and very often performance or something else is getting even worse

There is absolutely no "cost" of your time.

yes and no, right they are at all not wasting my entire time at this as I can do and do something else but yet they are wasting my time able to play this game at this time especailly when got ongoing paid *premium* with which I woudl want to actually play like I can play without such problems with many other games if not every other game, f2p, b2p, p2p or p2w

You complain of significant problems yet fail to mention a single one.
Your theory of "unstucking a spider or deer from a wall" is completely false too. Do you honestly believe that sort of thing needs to be done manually? ALL types of NPC's get reset completely automatically upon maintenance, so you've obviously got no clue how maintenance even works.

it was just example of "insane fixes" we are mostly have from maitenances, most fixes from ther are barely significant to anyone if even or they was discovered by mistake and then reported, by this single player, one of million who actually was going through this zone and by mistake went a bit out of his way or got bug/stuck by himself discovering this after doing specific action with this like using specific skill in that place

Please stop stomping your feet like a spoiled 8 year old. You don't own the servers and you're not going to get it your way by making useless posts on the forums. Maintenance will keep happening whether you like it or not.

I dont own servers and maybe I wont get my way by writing single posts with feedback how bad state is of what devs are doing but it will open a way for this by makiong more posts like this while agreeing with other players who feel same and so more posts will be created like this and it will be higher chance something will be noticed or definitelly atleast it will show from main page how not good state of game, maitenances is when someone will get on forums 1st time to chack what is going with game

and you you seem to behave like spoiled kid by not wanting to see feedback with different opinion than yours while stomping like 8year kid shouting about posts with negative feedback they are useless

stefj68

but why maintenance on everything same day... pts, xbox, ps4, pc/mac wow!