Maintenance?

Morgha_Kul

I'm not usually up quite so early, so I've never seen a maintenance shutdown before. Are they usually this LONG? I mean 4am to noon is a long time...

Dalsinthus

This is about 2x as long as normal. More typical would be 6 am to 10am.

Khenarthi

Yeah, they often take 6-8 hours, and sometimes get extended if issues are found.

Its a necessary evil.

For those of us in Central Europe maintenance starts at 10 a.m. which is even more annoying, if you happen to have the day off.

Rowjoh

They can be a short as 3 hours but usually 4-6 hours.

8 hours is unusual but not unheard of especially with a major update not too far away.

CountonMe

The standard window is 4AM-10AM EST. At 9:00AM they extended it to noon because I guess they realized they weren't close to finishing. 6 friggin hours wasn't enough!!

Everstorm

Any ETA?

L_Nici

Welcome to the life of EU players...its already 15:39/16:39/17:39 for us.

PigofSteel

EU is usually always 6-12 hours

Vanathil

Khenarthi wrote: »

Yeah, they often take 6-8 hours, and sometimes get extended if issues are found.

Its a necessary evil.

For those of us in Central Europe maintenance starts at 10 a.m. which is even more annoying, if you happen to have the day off.

I happened to take a day off today, maintenance started at 11am here, I already did my grocery shopping, did all the chores, watched netflix, now it's almost 6pm, cooking now my supper..in a way it was nice to take off my mind of the game, but still, I don't think many people take something like this lightly, especially when they get a chance of free time to enjoy the game

neverwalk

I wouldn't be surprized if zos is downloading some of BLACKWOOD 2 weeks early. Game was running great, no need for 8 hour shut down.

Huyen

neverwalk wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprized if zos is downloading some of BLACKWOOD 2 weeks early. Game was running great, no need for 8 hour shut down.

Expect to see an extension...

PizzaCat82

This is just the first part of maintenance.. there's a chance it could take many more hours.

CountonMe

neverwalk wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprized if zos is downloading some of BLACKWOOD 2 weeks early. Game was running great, no need for 8 hour shut down.

Last night the game was VERY buggy. There would be like a 2-3 second delay when activating abilities and it would constantly freeze in dungeons. You wouldn't notice you got hit by something until 5 seconds after it happened.

trackdemon5512

Seeing as this maintenance is taking place on a Monday which is abnormal AND is longer than typical I would speculate that this could be one of several in which ZOS is in the process of navigating data to NEW SERVERS as referenced earlier this year.

The developers did note that the process would take some time and wouldn’t be an instant switch so splitting it up under the general headline of regular maintenance seems appropriate.

CountonMe

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Seeing as this maintenance is taking place on a Monday which is abnormal AND is longer than typical I would speculate that this could be one of several in which ZOS is in the process of navigating data to NEW SERVERS as referenced earlier this year.

The developers did note that the process would take some time and wouldn’t be an instant switch so splitting it up under the general headline of regular maintenance seems appropriate.

What do you mean? Maintenance is always on Mondays. I just hate it when they do it during an event.

FrancisCrawford

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Seeing as this maintenance is taking place on a Monday which is abnormal AND is longer than typical I would speculate that this could be one of several in which ZOS is in the process of navigating data to NEW SERVERS as referenced earlier this year.

The developers did note that the process would take some time and wouldn’t be an instant switch so splitting it up under the general headline of regular maintenance seems appropriate.

Monday isn't really abnormal. Indeed, it's still the default in announcing maintenance.

But yes, I'd guess strongly that it's some kind of migration.

ghost_bg_ESO

pts update dropped before something like half an hour, i doubt if they were moving servers someone would care about pts...

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

Scheduling the event during a week with maintenance is bad planning, and bad marketing. Last week or next week would have been better choices.

TwiceBornStar

Yeah, I know right? It always happens on my day off. I don't expect anything else on a Monday, but last week it happened twice? Probably because I decided to try and take *that* day off instead. The universe hates me. It just does. I'm not going to tell you which day I'm taking off next week!

I already know what's going to happen..

Larcomar

Isnt there usually a patch to doanload by this time?

Sylvermynx

It's not a patch maintenance today.

Goregrinder

Yes, they can take this long. So Single player games like Skyrim are ran 100% off your own computer...the maintenance you would perform there would simply to reboot your computer. But ESO is a Massively-Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game, or also known in short as an "MMORPG", or simply "MMO".

MMORPG's use some form of server, which every ESO player connects to from wherever they live. There are different server configurations MMOs utilize, but ESO uses "Megaservers" for each region. So EVERYONE that lives in NA and plays on PC connects to the exact same server, or "Megaserver". That means thousands upon thousands of connections and sessions are made to that server all day long...every day....all hours of the day and night.

That will eventually cause performance problems, much like never rebooting your personal computer for 3 months...eventually you'll notice weird behavior from Windows, like apps crashing, other programs running slow, things not closing correctly, overall slowness, etc. You reboot your machine, maybe update your drivers every so often, etc and then you're back and off to the races.

Servers require similar maintenance. They sometimes require reboots in order to restart services, or apply an update to something, etc. Often times though, maintanence is "scheduled", as part of a proactive effort to minimize downtime. You can either never reboot, wait until SERIOUS problems happen, then do something about it...OR you can reboot every week, even if there are no serious problems, to insure the server is always in a high performance state.

Problems can still happen, however it is common practice to do weekly reboots, which is what normal server maintenance entails, among other things. It's like this...do you wait until your house is really dusty and dirty to vacuum or clean it, only once every like 6 months? Or do you dust and vacuum your house every 2 weeks or so, and perform regular house maintenance (taking out the trash, wiping down counters, cleaning your toilet, etc). It's a similar thing with servers and computers in general.

method__01

PS4 EU is up

HumbleThaumaturge

I am assuming today's planned 8-hour maintenance was part of the preparation for Update 30 going "live" in two weeks. It's telling that the test server (PTS) was also taken offline, as well as the NA and EU servers. I often play PTS when the live servers are down for maintenance, but not today. Possibly hardware upgrades for all servers?

Huyen

Khenarthi wrote: »

Yeah, they often take 6-8 hours, and sometimes get extended if issues are found.

Its a necessary evil.

For those of us in Central Europe maintenance starts at 10 a.m. which is even more annoying, if you happen to have the day off.

I happen to have the day off, and live in Europe...

PigofSteel

So 4 mondays is 4 days of eso+ ? Is there any compensation ?

Massacre_Wurm

Goregrinder wrote: »

Yes, they can take this long. So Single player games like Skyrim are ran 100% off your own computer...the maintenance you would perform there would simply to reboot your computer. But ESO is a Massively-Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game, or also known in short as an "MMORPG", or simply "MMO".

MMORPG's use some form of server, which every ESO player connects to from wherever they live. There are different server configurations MMOs utilize, but ESO uses "Megaservers" for each region. So EVERYONE that lives in NA and plays on PC connects to the exact same server, or "Megaserver". That means thousands upon thousands of connections and sessions are made to that server all day long...every day....all hours of the day and night.

That will eventually cause performance problems, much like never rebooting your personal computer for 3 months...eventually you'll notice weird behavior from Windows, like apps crashing, other programs running slow, things not closing correctly, overall slowness, etc. You reboot your machine, maybe update your drivers every so often, etc and then you're back and off to the races.

Servers require similar maintenance. They sometimes require reboots in order to restart services, or apply an update to something, etc. Often times though, maintanence is "scheduled", as part of a proactive effort to minimize downtime. You can either never reboot, wait until SERIOUS problems happen, then do something about it...OR you can reboot every week, even if there are no serious problems, to insure the server is always in a high performance state.

Problems can still happen, however it is common practice to do weekly reboots, which is what normal server maintenance entails, among other things. It's like this...do you wait until your house is really dusty and dirty to vacuum or clean it, only once every like 6 months? Or do you dust and vacuum your house every 2 weeks or so, and perform regular house maintenance (taking out the trash, wiping down counters, cleaning your toilet, etc). It's a similar thing with servers and computers in general.

This is nice and all but i have played dozens of MMOS and usually maintenance is like 1-2 hours during daytime or 3-4 hours at night. Very long regular maintenance like this is ESO's feature.

Morgha_Kul

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the maintenance, I was just wondering if they were usually so long...

(now 1:20, so longer even than posted)

iksde

Massacre_Wurm wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Yes, they can take this long. So Single player games like Skyrim are ran 100% off your own computer...the maintenance you would perform there would simply to reboot your computer. But ESO is a Massively-Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game, or also known in short as an "MMORPG", or simply "MMO".

MMORPG's use some form of server, which every ESO player connects to from wherever they live. There are different server configurations MMOs utilize, but ESO uses "Megaservers" for each region. So EVERYONE that lives in NA and plays on PC connects to the exact same server, or "Megaserver". That means thousands upon thousands of connections and sessions are made to that server all day long...every day....all hours of the day and night.

That will eventually cause performance problems, much like never rebooting your personal computer for 3 months...eventually you'll notice weird behavior from Windows, like apps crashing, other programs running slow, things not closing correctly, overall slowness, etc. You reboot your machine, maybe update your drivers every so often, etc and then you're back and off to the races.

Servers require similar maintenance. They sometimes require reboots in order to restart services, or apply an update to something, etc. Often times though, maintanence is "scheduled", as part of a proactive effort to minimize downtime. You can either never reboot, wait until SERIOUS problems happen, then do something about it...OR you can reboot every week, even if there are no serious problems, to insure the server is always in a high performance state.

Problems can still happen, however it is common practice to do weekly reboots, which is what normal server maintenance entails, among other things. It's like this...do you wait until your house is really dusty and dirty to vacuum or clean it, only once every like 6 months? Or do you dust and vacuum your house every 2 weeks or so, and perform regular house maintenance (taking out the trash, wiping down counters, cleaning your toilet, etc). It's a similar thing with servers and computers in general.

This is nice and all but i have played dozens of MMOS and usually maintenance is like 1-2 hours during daytime or 3-4 hours at night. Very long regular maintenance like this is ESO's feature.

dont fprget there are also plenty of games which for maitenances is enough to just restart game, they are introducing maitenance/small patch while players still play and then all needed is just to restart game by players and playa gain if no need to download more content

Extinct_Solo_Player

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the maintenance, I was just wondering if they were usually so long...

(now 1:20, so longer even than posted)

i'm not one to care about maintenance, but it really does feel like its for nothing because the server performance is still abysmal.

iksde

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the maintenance, I was just wondering if they were usually so long...

(now 1:20, so longer even than posted)

i'm not one to care about maintenance, but it really does feel like its for nothing because the server performance is still abysmal.

for me many times it was even worse after these maitenances
not forgetting about some addons stopping their work after maitenance and reinstalling, updating them do nothing

idk how after this maitencna but Im realistic here with ZOS and I downt something will change with LA weaving, clunky animations after an 1-2 maitenances before....skills animations along with block or ligt attacks feel like Im playing 300-500 ping while game is showing basic 90-<200 as always, dps rotation clunky for me from EU on EU server like I was playing on NA server with 400-500+ ping