xylena_lazarow wrote: »"and nothing of value was lost..."
Urzigurumash wrote: »If you're upset with the loss of tooltip from giving Caluurion's Spell Damage scaling: now you can put on Malacath.
If you're upset that Caluurion's builds were nerfed more than other proc setups: Most of them were using Malacath, which has been nerfed.
Good points right, or no?
Unified_Gaming wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »If you're upset with the loss of tooltip from giving Caluurion's Spell Damage scaling: now you can put on Malacath.
If you're upset that Caluurion's builds were nerfed more than other proc setups: Most of them were using Malacath, which has been nerfed.
Good points right, or no?
If you use it on a stam build then you get a massive buff. Don't you love the scaling - p.s. had my tooltip over 25k.
Urzigurumash wrote: »Unified_Gaming wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »If you're upset with the loss of tooltip from giving Caluurion's Spell Damage scaling: now you can put on Malacath.
If you're upset that Caluurion's builds were nerfed more than other proc setups: Most of them were using Malacath, which has been nerfed.
Good points right, or no?
If you use it on a stam build then you get a massive buff. Don't you love the scaling - p.s. had my tooltip over 25k.
For equivalent pieces of Medium and Light, depends on how many integer sources of Weapon Damage you have before you'd beat out the extra Spell Pen in Light - ignoring Melee weapon passives, since they can be used on a Mag build that doesn't need sustain from Heavies. I think, maybe I'm wrong.
Unified_Gaming wrote: »when using stated fury
Urzigurumash wrote: »If your point was that a 7 Medium + Bow/Bow + Sated Fury + Molag Kena + Caluurion's + Hunter's Venom (even plus Malacath now if you want to single-bar those 2 procs) is going to be outrageously OP, yeah ok, maybe, let me see that in action before I'm alarmed. That's an extreme, limited-use build. Clunky, squishy, unreliable, etc. Maybe.
With PVP magblade already being in a really bad spot, the harsh nerf to Caluurion's really kills it for me. It was basically the only super reliable damage I could get in the lagfest that is Cyrodil. Plus I loved the aesthetic, I thought it fit really well with my class.
Not really. I run a Caluurion and (currently) Zaan magblade in IC. I will not lie. In the current patch, this build actually works about as well as a pure stat-based stamblade, or at least it gets close. I think this may have something to do with Caluurion and Zaan both giving you crit and crit has become more effective. However if I face a pure stat-based stamblade of equal skill, they still have the edge, because they have similar burst and better sustained (spammable) damage. I'll get into why in a moment.Urzigurumash wrote: »If you're upset with the loss of tooltip from giving Caluurion's Spell Damage scaling: now you can put on Malacath.
If you're upset that Caluurion's builds were nerfed more than other proc setups: Most of them were using Malacath, which has been nerfed.
Good points right, or no?
As it stands right now, my build will be gutted next patch. 16% from Malacath is no compensation.
As far as I know it scales completely linearly, so it will be less than half of what it is on live.ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »As it stands right now, my build will be gutted next patch. 16% from Malacath is no compensation.
Hey Fred, so how bad is the tool tip on Cal? We played very similar builds back in the day. I was thinking of coming back in June but this looks pretty awful. What is the tool tip with about 3k spell damage?
xylena_lazarow wrote: »"and nothing of value was lost..."
I think you're confusing them with stamblades . Try to find a magblade in open world. That alone is hard and don't say it's because they're all perma-cloaking. If that was the case, if they have to be that careful, then you also know there's a problem. Yeah, there are some good duellers and a few bombers and some Caluurion magblades, but then count the number of stamblades, please, or the number of sorcs, and just how hard they hit you.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »xylena_lazarow wrote: »"and nothing of value was lost..."
I've never felt bad for mNB, maybe because I know how strong they are in 1v1 and open world. Not the best 1vX class at all but strong in the other 2 categories.
Looks like my Breton will have to become a Caluurion stamblade. Travesty!Unified_Gaming wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »If you're upset with the loss of tooltip from giving Caluurion's Spell Damage scaling: now you can put on Malacath.
If you're upset that Caluurion's builds were nerfed more than other proc setups: Most of them were using Malacath, which has been nerfed.
Good points right, or no?
If you use it on a stam build then you get a massive buff. Don't you love the scaling - p.s. had my tooltip over 25k.
Urzigurumash wrote: »Good points made by all. Hardly my area of expertise here, just a thought I had that I hadn't seen discussed.
My overall point is that probably MagDKs are the biggest losers out of this proc scaling. MagPlar has a little something extra in Minor Sorcery, Cros/Dens/Sorcs hardly need procs, and as for MagNB, well, at least you can put on Malacath now. It might not be ideal, but DKs were already wearing Malacath, and it's been nerfed.
Urzigurumash wrote: »Good points made by all. Hardly my area of expertise here, just a thought I had that I hadn't seen discussed.
My overall point is that probably MagDKs are the biggest losers out of this proc scaling. MagPlar has a little something extra in Minor Sorcery, Cros/Dens/Sorcs hardly need procs, and as for MagNB, well, at least you can put on Malacath now. It might not be ideal, but DKs were already wearing Malacath, and it's been nerfed.
No MagNB is going to use Malacath, mate. The class is heavily based around crit. A good amount of abilities and passives are synergized with it.
The only time I've ever seen NB's rocking Malacath is on a homogenized general-purpose stamina build that any class can use to be viable.