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Why there are too many random people ?
amber31
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I see everywhere full of random people at pledges,bgs,trials,pvp coming to my group and he is 500 cp over me but he deals 0 damage i am tank but everytime i go pledge need to change dd because our dds ... This game is really easy to me did veteran maelstorm arena with 300 cp no buff run first try can solo veteran dungeon with solo build (tzogvin briarheart selene or velidreth maybe bloodspawn)(except anti solo bosses) never did normal trial only did veteran and didnt fail thats why i never understand how can 1500 cp dd or healer or tank be not different than a npc im asking because im really curious about it what is the hard part to deal damage or tank or healing [snip]?
[Edited to remove Baiting]
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on May 3, 2021 2:04PM [Edited to remove Baiting]
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Supertonicbaker✭✭✭That’s nothing. I don’t know if you’ve heard but there was an attempt on the king’s life and someone saved him. That someone was ME. You’re welcome.40
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alanmatillab16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Really? you are signing up for RANDOM events and complaining you are getting random players to go with your random event?
Thats your problem, your solution is find friends or guildings to play with if you can find any that want to play with you with that attitude.36 -
amber31✭✭alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »Really? you are signing up for RANDOM events and complaining you are getting random players to go with your random event?
Thats your problem, your solution is find friends or guildings to play with if you can find any that want to play with you with that attitude.
No i am asking i am random person for them too but why i am not npc whats the hard part they cant i am curious .1 -
teabelly✭✭✭have you ever thought that these Random people are the ones carrying you?
vMA means nothing with group dynamics....16 -
amber31✭✭have you ever thought that these Random people are the ones carrying you?
vMA means nothing with group dynamics....
No i ve never been carried but its not the subject here just asking why they cant deal damage getting sets and leveling skills are easy how cant they deal damage im asking0 -
Sju✭✭✭✭Weird, I wasn't even on the forums, and I heard a loud flexing sound, now I know where it came from.41
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Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.8 -
Inhuman003✭✭✭✭✭I asked myself this question and I throw myself in this category on DPS I'm no good or ok but the healing I'm good and tanking I'm ok. The problem for me it's hard to farm for the good gear and be a group of people that know what they're doing.
Edited by Inhuman003 on May 3, 2021 2:23PM0 -
Pauwer✭✭✭✭✭I also want to see the no damage logs, i kind of would want to ask for their builds, so i can queue for random dungeons too as a dd. Would be fun to see how it goes.0
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wazzz56✭✭✭✭✭Okey i have been misunderstood...
so please clear up what you meant..I read it as "weird flex, weird flex, weird flex, insult to random people just doing content for no reason" I could be just mesmerized but your badassery though....GM Tig Ole Critties ps5 NA small scale PvP guild
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."14 -
amber31✭✭Im not flexing just said if i can make those im curious why someone cant and i ve never flamed or kicked anyone for being low dps or anything just asking whats the hard part what is the thing you struggling ? Not saying im badass or flexing0
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Platanutre✭✭Because the game does very very bad job at teaching news players. No explanation of GCD, no explanation of Weaving, No explanation of how taunting works, no explanation of even what roll dodging even do apart from movement. There's a ton of stuff that flat out isn;t explained, and if you did vMA first try (which i doubt hard) you probably had a ton of guidance since you were a baby account, and i can infer that you got into a pretty good guild early that ingrained you a ton of stuff, which most don;t because most people start out this game as a questing/chill enviroment.13
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amber31✭✭Platanutre wrote: »Because the game does very very bad job at teaching news players. No explanation of GCD, no explanation of Weaving, No explanation of how taunting works, no explanation of even what roll dodging even do apart from movement. There's a ton of stuff that flat out isn;t explained, and if you did vMA first try (which i doubt hard) you probably had a ton of guidance since you were a baby account, and i can infer that you got into a pretty good guild early that ingrained you a ton of stuff, which most don;t because most people start out this game as a questing/chill enviroment.
First i said they were over 500 cp me like 1500 cp still cant deal damage second yea i had ton of guidance from videos i watched not guilds third im not flexing just asking how can you deal 0 damage with 1500 cp character whats the hard part for you ?1 -
Platanutre✭✭I don't deal 0 damage lmao, i can parse decently well (did 98k on stamblade for foi which is around 4k off from max damage, at this point its just crit rng). CP doesn't really matter, i know people that entered the game and wanted to do hard content and went got good, others that took it lightly, are cp1000 but don't know what a rotation is yet. All you need to do to beat overland and questing stuff is to heavy attack and aoe, nothing else.3
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✭✭✭Platanutre wrote: »Because the game does very very bad job at teaching news players. No explanation of GCD, no explanation of Weaving, No explanation of how taunting works, no explanation of even what roll dodging even do apart from movement. There's a ton of stuff that flat out isn;t explained, and if you did vMA first try (which i doubt hard) you probably had a ton of guidance since you were a baby account, and i can infer that you got into a pretty good guild early that ingrained you a ton of stuff, which most don;t because most people start out this game as a questing/chill enviroment.
First i said they were over 500 cp me like 1500 cp still cant deal damage second yea i had ton of guidance from videos i watched not guilds third im not flexing just asking how can you deal 0 damage with 1500 cp character whats the hard part for you ?
Because, just maybe, they are casual players, playing the game for fun.
I've been playing since early access. I have high cp points. I use crafted gear. I don't normally do any group content. I don't really care what damage I do as long as the enemy dies before I do. I do NOT expect to do spectacular damage or superfast times or anything for trials or pledges, especially if I'm in a pug.
If you have expectations of people doing high amounts of damage you might want to look for a progression guild, or a trials guild that enforce "you must do X dps or you can't play with us" rules.22 -
Puzzlenuts✭✭✭I would guess answer to OP's question is that since the changes to CP in the last update people are grinding for more CP. So you have a lot of people doing random dungeons and bg's on all of their characters to get max XP for CP gain. So you may be doing a random with someone's crafter or characters that they haven't developed fully. This probably isn't always the case but I'm sure it happens12
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amber31✭✭LettuceBrain wrote: »Platanutre wrote: »Because the game does very very bad job at teaching news players. No explanation of GCD, no explanation of Weaving, No explanation of how taunting works, no explanation of even what roll dodging even do apart from movement. There's a ton of stuff that flat out isn;t explained, and if you did vMA first try (which i doubt hard) you probably had a ton of guidance since you were a baby account, and i can infer that you got into a pretty good guild early that ingrained you a ton of stuff, which most don;t because most people start out this game as a questing/chill enviroment.
First i said they were over 500 cp me like 1500 cp still cant deal damage second yea i had ton of guidance from videos i watched not guilds third im not flexing just asking how can you deal 0 damage with 1500 cp character whats the hard part for you ?
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You are absolutely right is seemed like flex but after i said like 5 times i didnt mean to flexEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on May 3, 2021 4:27PM1 -
amber31✭✭Platanutre wrote: »Because the game does very very bad job at teaching news players. No explanation of GCD, no explanation of Weaving, No explanation of how taunting works, no explanation of even what roll dodging even do apart from movement. There's a ton of stuff that flat out isn;t explained, and if you did vMA first try (which i doubt hard) you probably had a ton of guidance since you were a baby account, and i can infer that you got into a pretty good guild early that ingrained you a ton of stuff, which most don;t because most people start out this game as a questing/chill enviroment.
First i said they were over 500 cp me like 1500 cp still cant deal damage second yea i had ton of guidance from videos i watched not guilds third im not flexing just asking how can you deal 0 damage with 1500 cp character whats the hard part for you ?
Because, just maybe, they are casual players, playing the game for fun.
I've been playing since early access. I have high cp points. I use crafted gear. I don't normally do any group content. I don't really care what damage I do as long as the enemy dies before I do. I do NOT expect to do spectacular damage or superfast times or anything for trials or pledges, especially if I'm in a pug.
If you have expectations of people doing high amounts of damage you might want to look for a progression guild, or a trials guild that enforce "you must do X dps or you can't play with us" rules.
thats the answer i wanted thanks but you said you dont do group content but i am asking about pledges0 -
amber31✭✭Puzzlenuts wrote: »I would guess answer to OP's question is that since the changes to CP in the last update people are grinding for more CP. So you have a lot of people doing random dungeons and bg's on all of their characters to get max XP for CP gain. So you may be doing a random with someone's crafter or characters that they haven't developed fully. This probably isn't always the case but I'm sure it happens
i thought so too at bgs even me entered for daily exp with pve sets0 -
amber31✭✭Inhuman003 wrote: »I asked myself this question and I throw myself in this category on DPS I'm no good or ok but the healing I'm good and tanking I'm ok. The problem for me it's hard to farm for the good gear and be a group of people that know what they're doing.
Yes i think everyone once asked that question to himself but i asked little wrong sorry why is it hard to farm good gear for you ?0 -
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✭✭✭Inhuman003 wrote: »I asked myself this question and I throw myself in this category on DPS I'm no good or ok but the healing I'm good and tanking I'm ok. The problem for me it's hard to farm for the good gear and be a group of people that know what they're doing.
Yes i think everyone once asked that question to himself but i asked little wrong sorry why is it hard to farm good gear for you ?
To get the "good gear" you have to do the harder group type content, right? So the people who don't have the gear and don't do the dps to get the gear are supposed to get the gear...how? If they are in good guilds that take time to teach and help out, they can get the "good gear". Still doesn't mean they have the skill to use it to the best effect, but they'd have the gear.
I could have the Adamantine Armor of Untouchability and the Sword of Ultimate Badassery and I'd still suck at trials and pledges. Gear doesn't equal skill.9 -
DawnsLight65✭✭✭have you ever thought that these Random people are the ones carrying you?
vMA means nothing with group dynamics....
No i ve never been carried but its not the subject here just asking why they cant deal damage getting sets and leveling skills are easy how cant they deal damage im asking
Dear, at some point in your ESO life you HAVE been carried by another member of your dungeon run. We all have. It is impossible for you not to have done so unless you never did a dungeon before CP 810.Ra'avi Ahjonihr Khajit Stamblade, Level 1500Master ThiefCrafter and ExplorerHero of the Dominion, Pact, and CovenantMember of the DragonguardFriend to Razum-darFavored of Azura'It does not matter to M'aiq how strong or smart one is. It only matters what one can do.' -M'aiq the Liar12 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ya know some people also have alt character they do pledges or random dungeons with and those characters are mostly not fully geard,lack of skill morphs and skillpoints and now with the cp changes also may not have their cp points in the right spots.
Another option is people trying out new roles,I will take myself as an example I play mainly as healer for group content but the times I changed to DD it was for solo content where I pretty much can do what I want, but when someone needed help for a dungeon or pledges I helped as DD as changing back to healer just for one or 2 dungeons wasnt really needed.My dps wasn't great but I could carry my own weight,for not being used to play as dd i did ok,not great but ok (because I play a sorc and that makes things a loooot easier as I use 2 pets)
Option 3 would be people playing for fun and they don't care what gear they wear or if they deal the greatest dps,what is in 90% of the content not an issue as long as it isn't vetDLC dungeons or vet Trials.
Question answered?
Edit: typosEdited by Lady_Galadhiel on May 3, 2021 3:47PMTotal ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.6 -
amber31✭✭Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »Ya know some people also have alt character they do pledges or random dungeons with and those characters are mostly not fully geard,lack of skill morphs and skillpoints and now with the cp changes also may not have their cp points in the right spots.
Another option is people trying out new roles,I will take myself as an example I play mainly as healer for group content but the times I changed to DD it was for solo content where I pretty much can do what I want, but when someone needed help for a dungeon or pledges I helped as DD as changing back to healer just for one or 2 dungeons wasnt really needed.My dps wasn't great but I could carry my own weight,for not being used to play as dd i did ok,not great but ok (because I play a sorc and that makes things a loooot easier as I use 2 pets)
Option 3 would be people playing for fun and they don't care what gear they wear or if they deal the greatest dps,what is in 90% of the content not an issue as long as it isn't vetDLC dungeons or vet Trials.
Question answered?
Edit: typos
Yes answered that was the most proggresive answer i got thanks.0