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After 152 (and counting) Arx Corinium runs...

  • amber31
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    Sorry to say that but I sold flame bsw and medusa to vendor too many times because i hate magicka
  • RandomKodiak
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    Around 100 runs through MA no inferno :( I feel your pain. Got my MA bow first run after the changes, the range gods in this game are a fickle bunch, stick with it is all I can say. Best of luck to you hope you get it soon.
  • JanTanhide
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    I hear ya. Same here. Tons of runs and everything but the fire staff. I have seen it drop two times for others though so there is that.

    Got the Burning Spell Weave inferno years ago two times and also got the Overwhelming Surge staves long ago. But not the Medusa fire staff.

    LOL. And on we go!
  • Raegwyr
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    In dungeons you have 2,2% that one specific drop will happen for you (if you count only weapons/jewelery drop from last boss). Chest have ~1,51% chance for specific drop each. These numbers don't change with bigger ammount of your tries.
    Your first run have only 2,2% to drop inferno medusa from last boss. Your 100th run have the same chance.
    Simple RNG mate, unfortunately there might be another 150 runs without inferno drop for you and someone else will drop 3 inferno medusa staffs during 20 runs.
    RNG is just that. RNG
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    agegarton wrote: »
    There should be coding in the game to ensure you don't drop duplicates until your sticker book is full. There were able to do that in other areas in-game. It makes zero sense to force this kind of unproductive grind.

    I have to be honest, these stories keep me away from BIS builds. I simply cannot be bothered with this level of crappy coding. I find running some of these dungeons once to be a drag. Running them tens or even hundreds of times? You must be kidding.

    @agegarton

    What do you mean they were able to?
  • Shantu
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    Hard for me to understand the entertainment value in designing a game so the possibility exists of running the same content 150+ times and still not getting the item you want. It's completely absurd. Going through the same thing with vVH and the perfected daggers. Part of me enjoys the content, while another, ever-growing part, despises it because of the RNG.

    Sometimes I think this game has little to do with entertainment and more about the leverage of obsession.
  • GusTheWizard
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    Wow your RNG really sucks. I was farming it with two of my friends, my one friend got his in like 5 runs and then about 5 runs later me and the other friend both got one out of the same chest.
    Edited by GusTheWizard on May 3, 2021 2:23PM
  • mzprx
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    i once tried to get a lightning vMA staff (back when there were no "perfected" weapons). for my magSorc. to have a kind of lightning build focused on shock damage. stoped counting after 250 veteran MA runs. not including the ones before that (when i didn't get a lightning staff either). the game knows. it knows what you want and laughs in your face..

    edit: i did get the lightning staff in the end. no idea how many tries it took after i stopped counting at 250..
    Edited by mzprx on May 3, 2021 2:30PM
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  • agegarton
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    agegarton wrote: »
    There should be coding in the game to ensure you don't drop duplicates until your sticker book is full. There were able to do that in other areas in-game. It makes zero sense to force this kind of unproductive grind.

    I have to be honest, these stories keep me away from BIS builds. I simply cannot be bothered with this level of crappy coding. I find running some of these dungeons once to be a drag. Running them tens or even hundreds of times? You must be kidding.

    @agegarton

    What do you mean they were able to?

    They did it with a motif - I think the one that is available from the master writ vendor. Instead of buying each piece you get a random drop, but not one you already have unless you have them all already. I’m sure there was something else too but I can’t remember what it was !
  • DawnsLight65
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    MoreTune wrote: »
    Still no Medusa inferno staff...

    But.

    Completed stickerbook for Lamia’ Song set.
    Completed stickerbook for Undaunted Infiltrator set.
    Only need Medusa Inferno to complete Medusa Set.
    Leveled Jewelry from 11 to 50
    Leveled Legerdemain from 1 to 8
    Made over 100,000 gold in selling items to merchants

    ESO RNG at its finest...convinced the RNG in this game isn’t actually equally distributed. Wouldn’t make sense as to why I completed the entire stickerbook for two other sets...

    Welp. Hopefully won’t need another 150+ runs. Back to Arx I go...

    I'm doing that in Drake Villa cause the only thing I need is a Kinras chest....and I am getting everything else BUT that. I swear the game knows what I am going for and deliberately makes sure I dont find it.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Remember the four you deconned years ago?
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • tmbrinks
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    If there are 45 drops of each weapon/jewelry from final boss.

    152 runs still means there's a 3.3% chance ((44/45)^152) of you not getting a particular item. Still not even statistically significant data sample.
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  • sashabeear1000
    I remember running Arx to get a UI Lightning staff. I can't even tell you how many times I ran it as I lost count after 6 months. I finally got it though it took forever. Now I've been trying to get the Necklace of Medusa. Back to Arx. I think the game does know what you're looking for because two runs in a row - I got the UI Lightning staff!!! Now I don't need it and I keep getting it! I know when I was looking for it (pre-sticker book), I got the Medusa Inf staff multiple times and decon'd them and that stupid necklace I'm looking for now. LOL
  • Nastassiya
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    A friend of mine looted one, not to long ago, and deconstructed it. I told him I was looking for it and how rare it was then I heard the sad sound of him dying inside as he told me what he had recently done.
  • MoreTune
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    ***update***
    Just dropped out of an advanced chest on run 172.

    Done with Arx forever.
  • scorpius2k1
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    Edited by scorpius2k1 on May 4, 2021 3:10PM
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  • Jacozilla
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    Whatever the odds are of BSW and Medusa inferno dropping, it is 4x worse that whatever percent you're thinking of. Because in ~7yrs, I've never even seen a BSW inferno drop in group, much less get it myself.

    If I saw one drop in group, at least I'd say, welp - it dropped but random 1/4 luck I wasn't one that got it. But seriously, ~7yrs of random + applied farming runs and never even seen it drop in group. I know obviously other ppl and groups do see it, perhaps even more than once or many times.

    But I expect my medusa inferno luck will be the same...please revisit this thread and necro it +7 years from now if ESO still kicking and I will still not have medusa inferno.
  • SkorosMindkiller
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    I feel your pain, it took me over 6 years in this game to get an ebon shield. I MAY have had one before the dungeon sets were made bind-on-pickup, but if I did, I gave it away before I made my tank.
  • Matchimus
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    I burnt out chasing the inferno. Got it (very last item in dungeon) but cost is I rarely log in atm and subscription cancelled. Zero desire to farm another item. The potential time to do so is too great. Once bitten, forever shy
  • Athan1
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    Woulda given up after 3 runs, so respect.
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  • Pauwer
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    I have bsw inferno staff and i think medusa too. I play stam, but i have kept weapon drops over the years, because they are so hard to get. I have noticed that maybe these things drop for me because i play stam tank. Always get mag set weapons. Never farmed any of the dungeons. Maybe i need a mag dd to get the bone pirate bow, which has never dropped for me. I don't want it for
    playing anymore, but for collections sakes.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    It helped me to queue as tank (DD with taunt) for normal Arx. When the dungeon started I told in chat that I was looking for fire medusa staff and was paying 100k for it. After that tactic it only took me 4 runs to get it, maybe it can help you too.
    Edited by Septimus_Magna on May 5, 2021 5:22AM
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  • Ippokrates
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    They should definitely connected rng factor to sticker book, so as long as you're missing some piece, you are not going to get the same one and the pool is going to be smaller and smaller.

    In worst scenario you will still have to make like 23 runs to complete everything, but definitely 100+ is out of question.

    The reduced amount of grinding will be better for players mental health, general atmosphere (allowing to have fun with builds instead of mindless grinding) and... for servers -_-
  • SickleCider
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    I got all four staves and all jewelry in under ten runs, and I feel slightly bad. 🤔
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  • Khrogo
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    That’s a horrific number of runs. It was about 25 runs for me, and by the end of it, I hated the dungeon. Fire staff dropped from final boss on normal and the lightning staff was in a chest right next to her.

    The good thing about Arx is that it has more chests than normal. Not sure how many, but pretty sure I have looted five on a run.
  • Indigogo
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    I said a very quiet blessing to the sticker book yesterday when I picked up a lvl 29 bsw inferno.
    Running a magblade through arx solo is making the grind slightly more palatable.
    Stealth through, nuke gateway bosses, hunt chests at my own pace. Leave, do a sweep on vet to the first gate, rinse and repeat.

    Still not looking forward to the hours (days?) it's going to take to find any darn destro medusa.
  • Oldmanlawlor
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    I got so frustrated collecting my own Medusa inferno staff (finally got it) that as soon as someone in guild chat asks for help running Arx that I will without hesitation devote 2 or 3 hours farming it with them and handing over the goods.
  • DawnsLight65
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    MoreTune wrote: »
    ***update***
    Just dropped out of an advanced chest on run 172.

    Done with Arx forever.

    YEah, pretty much me too. Arx was my first dungeon at level CP170. And just for a laugh, my guildmates snuck in Veteran Mode. I died. Alot. Then when we got to Sellistrix, because they had always taught me to pick up shiny books and paper, I picked up the hard mode scroll. And died alot more. They laughed alot more.

    I dont die anymore. And I only run Arx when its for my random dungeon, cause transmute crystals.
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  • zvavi
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    Indigogo wrote: »
    Running a magblade through arx solo is making the grind slightly more palatable.
    Stealth through, nuke gateway bosses, hunt chests at my own pace. Leave, do a sweep on vet to the first gate, rinse and repeat.

    *magblades, u should find a whole crew and do it on vet with 4 stealthblades :D it is very fun.
  • kmfdm
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    Do you think you may increase the odds of getting inferno staff if you pick the lock pins in a special order? Yes, ... no? Maybe, after another hundred runs I'll find a correlation there, or maybe I just need a sanity check.
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