(Edited title after testing) Leveling one companion -- 63 quests plus a bunch of combat XP?
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Marcus_Thracius✭✭✭✭At this point , I will run them naked and only romance them , they are of no good for the rest5 -
opaj✭✭✭✭✭That doesn't actually sound so bad. I mean, I'd rather they level up skills by adventuring with me naturally, but I can work guild quests into a few of my characters' routines.
Since you can't take your companions into Cyrodiil, I would imagine that this would be impossible to do.EDIT: Has anyone tested the Cyrodiil Fighter's Guild bounty quests? I also did the automax unfortunately.3 -
crazepdx✭✭✭✭To be honest, I don't care how long it takes me to fully level a companion. I want to have him as a long-term occupation/entertainment and not rush through everything within 1 week. But I also see companions more for the RP than as an aid in combat.
The Rp aspect is the only thing that makes them a maybe for me. Expecially considering that as my toon I've faced down and defeated daedric princes, was a vessel for the power of Akatosh multiple times etc... having a companion that doesn't struggle on encounters I find easy would be, although nice, almost counter to that story line. If that makes sense.0 -
Fennwitty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That doesn't actually sound so bad. I mean, I'd rather they level up skills by adventuring with me naturally, but I can work guild quests into a few of my characters' routines.
Since you can't take your companions into Cyrodiil, I would imagine that this would be impossible to do.
VERY good point
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cyberjanet✭✭✭✭✭DarcyMardin wrote: »For anyone who will be making a new alt with the new chapter, it might make sense to level the companions alongside the baby alt. (I’d be more likely to make buy a new alt slot if we were getting a new class with this chapter...oh well). Is it only through guild quests that the companions level those skills? Because with my already-leveled characters, I have no desire to do all those quests yet again.
I made a new character on the PTS for that purpose and the companion levelled r e a l l y s l o w l y. When I paired him with a normal level character, the levelling went much faster.Favourite NPC: Wine-For-All
Mostly PC-EU , with a lonely little guy on NA.2 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »
I've got a few characters that I'm doing the Bolgrul quests with. So I'll just carry the companion with me and pick up the daily mage quest also. The fighter's quests aren't worth the effort, I'll just kill undead or deadra instead
Guild quests are unfortunately the ONLY options for leveling companions' guild skills.
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✭@Fennwitty Companions can not be summoned in PVP areas, and FG Bounty quests are killing mobs in Cyrodiil, so companions can not participate.PC EU1 -
Fennwitty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Fennwitty Companions can not be summoned in PVP areas, and FG Bounty quests are killing mobs in Cyrodiil, so companions can not participate.
Yes thanks, I overlooked that.PC NA0 -
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✭I play on console and don't have access to the pts.
Can someone please tell me whether the levelling of a companion is account wide or associated with each character (like mount training) please?
I read that we'll need to do introductory quests on any character who would use them, but I have no intention of doing mages guild etc fetch and carry quests on any of my fully skillline levelled characters, but I would consider bringing them along on my alts that haven't completed MG etc yet, but only if it's account wide
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FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »I play on console and don't have access to the pts.
Can someone please tell me whether the levelling of a companion is account wide or associated with each character (like mount training) please?
I read that we'll need to do introductory quests on any character who would use them, but I have no intention of doing mages guild etc fetch and carry quests on any of my fully skillline levelled characters, but I would consider bringing them along on my alts that haven't completed MG etc yet, but only if it's account wide
Account-wide. The unlock quest is definitely character-specific, and the rapport-building optional quests are very likely character-specific as well. But anything that levels the companion's rank or skill lines is account-wide, the guild quests included.1 -
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✭✭✭It's really stupid that we have to go to Blackwood to unlock the companion quests there. That messes up the whole order, my Dunmer alt is just finishing the EP main questlines, but I want Mirri for him as companion.2 -
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Just tested and confirmed that this is definitely not the case. The unlock was at the account level as well.FrancisCrawford wrote: »The unlock quest is definitely character-specific, and the rapport-building optional quests are very likely character-specific as well.
I created a level 1 character Isle of Balfiera and immediately summoned in a fully leveled Mirri from my template character, before I even did the look around portion of the tutorial.
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Not to bne difficult, but you could wait a few months when they put them in the crown store. Or you could go to Blackwood to collect her, but RP that you actually recruited her while doing some of the Deshaan quests, afterall you do save a lot of dark Elves in the 'Bad Medicine' quest.It's really stupid that we have to go to Blackwood to unlock the companion quests there. That messes up the whole order, my Dunmer alt is just finishing the EP main questlines, but I want Mirri for him as companion.
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Lugaldu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭jwellsub17_ESO2 wrote: »Or you could go to Blackwood to collect her, but RP that you actually recruited her while doing some of the Deshaan quests, afterall you do save a lot of dark Elves in the 'Bad Medicine' quest.
Probably I will do that. Already with Greymoor it was so annoying that we had to go to Solitude for the Antiquarian skill lines.
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FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭jwellsub17_ESO2 wrote: »Just tested and confirmed that this is definitely not the case. The unlock was at the account level as well.
I created a level 1 character Isle of Balfiera and immediately summoned in a fully leveled Mirri from my template character, before I even did the look around portion of the tutorial.
My strong impression from PTS patch notes and so on is that that's an artifact of the PTS-only leveling feature, from which you've drawn an incorrect conclusion.0 -
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I hope you are right, but I did test it last week without a template character, 7.0.1, and week before last, 7.0.0, and both performed the same way. Under 7.0.0 and 7.0.1, I recruited and leveled Mirri the normal way, to level 6, and equipped her. I then created a new character, I was able to summon level 6 and equipped Mirri while still in the tutorial... I think I even mentioned it at the time about the potential for abuse.FrancisCrawford wrote: »My strong impression from PTS patch notes and so on is that that's an artifact of the PTS-only leveling feature, from which you've drawn an incorrect conclusion.2 -
crazepdx✭✭✭✭So I've been testing an unleveled Mirri through the guild quests. For the first 2 levels it was a one to one return. 1 quild level for one guild quest turn in. However level 3 appears to require 2 quests to go from level 2 to level 3. Which if it continues to hold at 2 for 1 level it will require twice what you estimated for all 3. This assumes that it doesn't keep taking more quests to level a they increase.
It's going to be a grind to level them on live.0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So I've been testing an unleveled Mirri through the guild quests. For the first 2 levels it was a one to one return. 1 quild level for one guild quest turn in. However level 3 appears to require 2 quests to go from level 2 to level 3. Which if it continues to hold at 2 for 1 level it will require twice what you estimated for all 3. This assumes that it doesn't keep taking more quests to level a they increase.
It's going to be a grind to level them on live.
Which guild?
My test was Mages Guild, and it looked like half a level for the one quest I did.
I'm pretty sure it's 100 points per level at all levels, and that quest gave 50 points.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jwellsub17_ESO2 wrote: »I hope you are right, but I did test it last week without a template character, 7.0.1, and week before last, 7.0.0, and both performed the same way. Under 7.0.0 and 7.0.1, I recruited and leveled Mirri the normal way, to level 6, and equipped her. I then created a new character, I was able to summon level 6 and equipped Mirri while still in the tutorial... I think I even mentioned it at the time about the potential for abuse.
This is not intended behavior for the Live release.
See the latest Official post: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/60015
"Additionally, Companions cannot be summoned while you’re in combat or if your current character has not yet completed the associated introductory quest (even if the collectible has been unlocked by another character.)"2 -
crazepdx✭✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »
Which guild?
My test was Mages Guild, and it looked like half a level for the one quest I did.
I'm pretty sure it's 100 points per level at all levels, and that quest gave 50 points.
It worked that way on all the guilds. 1st quest unlocked 1st level, 2nd quest level 2, 3rd quest put between level 2 and level 3. I'm on template tons so don't want to start another couple to see if it stays 2 quests per level. I'll know by level 4. Assuming only 2 per level to get to level 20 in ea guild that's 38 per guild or over a hundred dailies between all 3, if I'm not mistaken? Again this is assuming it stays at only 2 per level and doesn't take more quests the higher you go.0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
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It worked that way on all the guilds. 1st quest unlocked 1st level, 2nd quest level 2, 3rd quest put between level 2 and level 3. I'm on template tons so don't want to start another couple to see if it stays 2 quests per level. I'll know by level 4. Assuming only 2 per level to get to level 20 in ea guild that's 38 per guild or over a hundred dailies between all 3, if I'm not mistaken? Again this is assuming it stays at only 2 per level and doesn't take more quests the higher you go.
That sounds to me like:- The first quest got you halfway through Level 1.
- The second quest got you entirely through Level 1.
- The third quest got you halfway through Level 2.
That would be confirming evidence for my claim of two quests/level.
Thank you for running the tests!!0 -
crazepdx✭✭✭✭No I did 1 quest and unlocked level one Tuesday night. 1 quest got level 2 Wednesday night, 1 quest and got halfway through level 2 tonight. However aren't the guilds 20 levels?
I'm asking this because I am trying to research this and get it figured out before live.Edited by crazepdx on May 7, 2021 4:10AM0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No I did 1 quest and unlocked level one Tuesday night. 1 quest got level 2 Wednesday night, 1 quest and got halfway through level 2 tonight. However aren't the guilds 20 levels?
I'm asking this because I am trying to research this and get it figured out before live.
They max at Level 11.
I think the last skill is unlocked at Level 10, but I'm not sure.
And I predict strongly that you'll continue to see that it takes two quests to complete each level. With your 4th quest in the guild you'll finish Level 2 and hence unlock Level 3; with your 6th quest in the guild you'll finish Level 3 and hence unlock Level 4; and so on.
That the first level is grayed out until you finish your first quest in the guild is beside the point.0 -
carlos424✭✭✭✭✭Does anyone know if finding lore books gives mages guild xp to companions?Edited by carlos424 on June 5, 2021 2:17PM0
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FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭On live this seems to be working just as on the PTS.
On the plus side, the guild skills I want to equip all unlock at Level 6. I'm not too impressed with the last one in each tree.0