Why no XP boost tools in PVP?

coop500

Is there some exploit I am unaware of? It's so frustrating to have to leave IC to turn on the cake every 2 hours.

Ackwalan

Mementos were not turned off for performance. They were turn off due to exploits. There were a number of mementos that while used in PvP, could make someone invisible, immune to damage, able to get under/inside objects. Because there are so many mementos, fixing one bug often created other bugs. So instead of playing wack-a-mole, they were all turned off.

zaria

coop500 wrote: »

Is there some exploit I am unaware of? It's so frustrating to have to leave IC to turn on the cake every 2 hours.

I agree, its stupid you can not use tools there.

VaranisArano

Most mementos are disabled in Cyrodiil. The exception is Pelinal's scroll for MYM, which takes up an inventory slot instead of being a true memento.

For example, there was one that let players create a fake "scroll beam".

Here, Jessica Folsom says:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In doing our conversion of items to Mementos, we made the decision to not allow them to be usable in Cyrodiil because of game performance. Each of these items creates a new game object for the server to track, impacting game performance. Once we get Cyrodiil performance back to where it needs to be, we can reevaluate if we want Mementos and Assistants to be usable in Cyrodiil.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/258140/momentos-removed-from-pvp

Kiralyn2000

And now I'm picturing an attack group doing a coordinated Cake Drop, to fill an area with interactable objects & mess with the other faction.

VaranisArano

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

And now I'm picturing an attack group doing a coordinated Cake Drop, to fill an area with interactable objects & mess with the other faction.

And just imagine a ball group being followed around by a small horde of bankers/merchants/fences!

virtus753

VaranisArano wrote: »

Most mementos are disabled in Cyrodiil. The exception is Pelinal's scroll for MYM, which takes up an inventory slot instead of being a true memento.

For example, there was one that let players create a fake "scroll beam".

Here, Jessica Folsom says:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In doing our conversion of items to Mementos, we made the decision to not allow them to be usable in Cyrodiil because of game performance. Each of these items creates a new game object for the server to track, impacting game performance. Once we get Cyrodiil performance back to where it needs to be, we can reevaluate if we want Mementos and Assistants to be usable in Cyrodiil.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/258140/momentos-removed-from-pvp

Five years ago to the month! Cyro performance still not "where it needs to be," alas.

DreadDaedroth

Put a single cake that doesn't give tickets in each pvp base.

Vlad9425

It’s kinda dumb they should let you use event XP boosts in Cyrodiil.

zaria

VaranisArano wrote: »

Most mementos are disabled in Cyrodiil. The exception is Pelinal's scroll for MYM, which takes up an inventory slot instead of being a true memento.

For example, there was one that let players create a fake "scroll beam".

Here, Jessica Folsom says:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In doing our conversion of items to Mementos, we made the decision to not allow them to be usable in Cyrodiil because of game performance. Each of these items creates a new game object for the server to track, impacting game performance. Once we get Cyrodiil performance back to where it needs to be, we can reevaluate if we want Mementos and Assistants to be usable in Cyrodiil.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/258140/momentos-removed-from-pvp

Reason is not performance but to avoid people doing insulting mementos on dead players or taunting on keep walls.
And yes stuff who have in game impact like fake scrolls

Greasytengu

Instead of having the tools be usable in Cyrodiil, could they instead have one at the base for the duration of the event?

They sort of do this with MyM, you can get the AP boost from the gore bowl at your alliance's base. So in this case, why not have a cake sitting at base for people to use at will? This way people can get their buff and not have to spawn multiple instances of the cake.

ZaroktheImmortal

They don't allow tools or mementos for some reason. Even the pvp event boost thing is an item which takes up space in inventory.

Kwoung

Pretty sure you can jump in Shegoraths little cave at your home base and it works there.

Thrasher91604

Yep, cheesemonger hollow allows you to eat cake.

Diminish

Greasytengu wrote: »

Instead of having the tools be usable in Cyrodiil, could they instead have one at the base for the duration of the event?

They sort of do this with MyM, you can get the AP boost from the gore bowl at your alliance's base. So in this case, why not have a cake sitting at base for people to use at will? This way people can get their buff and not have to spawn multiple instances of the cake.

Just go into the portal for Sheogorath, eat your cake, and take the portal back out to Cyrodiil.