WE WANT STAMWHIP

Togal

Moan "OH YEAH" if you want stamwhip for dk!

AyaDark

I do not want.
Weapon spammable will be just better.
May be rework stone from 3rd skill line to it - than OK.

Hapexamendios

Poison whip would be good. Change one of the morphs to stam.

Lephrel

I'd prefer it, if they just gave all stamina classes a decent (instant cast) spammable. Also, be careful what you ask for. People were crying for stamina fragments for years...and look what we got.

That being said, having whip scale off of your highest resources (like soul trap) would be amazing!

Hotdog_23

Poison would be sweet I do admit but whip is fine as fire just make it scale with highest offensive stat instead of mag only.

Stay safe and enjoy the journey 😊

PS. ZOS stop the micromanagement of the green tree 🥺

TwinLamps

OH YEAH

I would pay 5 000 crowns to have #stamwhip

LightYagami

AyaDark wrote: »

I do not want.
Weapon spammable will be just better.
May be rework stone from 3rd skill line to it - than OK.

Stam wipe isn't available yet so we can't conclude that weapon spammable will be better.
It depends how ZOS make the stam wipe, if any.

Edit: typo

Luke_Flamesword

You don't have to take one morph from magicka to stamina - there is very usefull option "scale with highest stat". Fire or poison damage should be also matter of stats.

I think that whole class skills for every class should be reworked that way. Let's give people choice to play full potential of class no matter that you are stamina or magicka. This of course need further balancing, but imagine your builds possibilities with every class skill viable, no matter that you are stamina or magicka player. Morphs shouldn't be matter of stamina/magicka choice, but different work of skill (for example one morph gives you healing, another bigger damage - that kind of thing which you have already in full magicka skills).

Also how cool it would be, if we have fire/poison morphs for dks skills, but both scalling with highest stat, so you can create stamina fire theme build or magicka poison?

Olauron

No. Don't touch my whip.

Zer0_CooL

No we don't. Even if there's a stam whip you'd just stick to your dizzy swing because its OP.

the1andonlyskwex

I want mag versions of Uppercut and Reverse Slash.

(Edit: the whole 2H skill line, really)

Malthorne

Stamina DKs for years: we simply want a Stam whip or a morph of whip that scales with our highest resource

ZOS: here’s the new stone giant, a melee AOE that turns into a ranged projectile single target spammable for only 3 three hits with a stun at the end

danthemann5

I'll put my money where my mouth is:

If ZOS implements a good, non-crappy stam whip that compares favorably with Dizzy, I will buy $100 worth of crown crates.

Odovacar

Stam Whip!!! #notameme

ZOS: Maybe never ...

Chilly-McFreeze

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

No we don't. Even if there's a stam whip you'd just stick to your dizzy swing because its OP.

Maybe we're sticking to dizzy because we don't have a competitive alternative?

ealdwin

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

You don't have to take one morph from magicka to stamina - there is very usefull option "scale with highest stat". Fire or poison damage should be also matter of stats.

I think that whole class skills for every class should be reworked that way. Let's give people choice to play full potential of class no matter that you are stamina or magicka. This of course need further balancing, but imagine your builds possibilities with every class skill viable, no matter that you are stamina or magicka player. Morphs shouldn't be matter of stamina/magicka choice, but different work of skill (for example one morph gives you healing, another bigger damage - that kind of thing which you have already in full magicka skills).

Also how cool it would be, if we have fire/poison morphs for dks skills, but both scalling with highest stat, so you can create stamina fire theme build or magicka poison?

That's honestly not a bad idea. It would be kind of like a return to the old days of ESO when all Class skills were Magicka based (because at that point the classes were replacements for the traditional schools of magic) and morph choice was more about what you wanted from the ability and not a cool color based binary determined by the attribute you put more points into. (Magicka and Stamina in theory were also more about enabling yourself to cast different abilities more frequently, more Class abilities = Magicka, more Weapon abilities and movement = Stamina).

Starlight_Whisper

🤔 this came from class discussion discord.

Bradyfjord

I would love a stamina/poison whip. I would settle for the current whip (or a morph at least) scaling with highest resource.

Firstmep

Poison whip would make so much sense and would be so class defining and thematic, that Zos won't ever do it.
Enjoy throwing rocks instead.

Chaos2088

YASSSS!!!!!!

while we are at it, the original four classes need a tweek to aline how warden and necro are.

xxthir13enxx

https://youtu.be/bmaErg4FUAc

https://youtu.be/j_QLzthSkfM

Chilly-McFreeze

Chaos2088 wrote: »

YASSSS!!!!!!

while we are at it, the original four classes need a tweek to aline how warden and necro are.

Oh, please don't. I have no use for 2 defensive lines and only 5 damage abilities. It's more of a hinderance than it's useful. Thanks.

WrathOfInnos

I’d prefer reworking Stone Giant to be better (consistent range, no cast time, maybe improved visual). If stam whip is created that just means RIP stagger uptime since everyone will want to use the better spammable.

That being said, I noticed recently that there is a Poison Whip skill that exists already. Must be an NPC ability. It has a damage formula on UESP, and I assume the animations already exist somewhere in the game files. This means it would probably be easy to implement.

Greek_Hellspawn

Just make stone giant worthy to use, make it insta cast and melee, or make it like dizzy 0.8 sec cast time but increase the damage.

Jacozilla

Soon as they give mag 2 more weapon lines to equal stam 4, sure.

Lynxyn

They can add stam whip the minute they add mag weapon abilities that are as overpowered and kit completing as 2h.

Chilly-McFreeze

Jacozilla wrote: »

Soon as they give mag 2 more weapon lines to equal stam 4, sure.

On your magDK dd ...
Which Staff skill do you run frontbar? None?
Which one at all in a good group? Oh right, WoE and that's probably it.

Not that I'm against the idea of adding new mag weapons, on the contrary. But if you can't see the discrepancy between a mag layout and that of a stam (dk) your argument misses the mark.

YandereGirlfriend

Yes, add Stamwhip and then add Spell Penetration to Corrosive Armor.

And while they're at it, allow Magma Shell to shield more than 6 players!

Vlad9425

Stam whip is what we should have gotten in the 1st place instead of the ridiculous poop rock spammable that ZOS added which is the most clunky and dumb looking ability in the game.

Chaos2088

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Chaos2088 wrote: »

YASSSS!!!!!!

while we are at it, the original four classes need a tweek to aline how warden and necro are.

Oh, please don't. I have no use for 2 defensive lines and only 5 damage abilities. It's more of a hinderance than it's useful. Thanks.

Ratzkifal

No. Stonefist should be made more fun instead. Make it a melee ability with good damage, slap an additional special effect on it that makes people want to use it over other spammables, give it a cool animation that's also easy to weave and done!