Blackwood – Enforced PvP

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Sable751
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The prologue quest forces you to go into the Imperial Sewers, a PVP zone. Managed to complete that without being challenged by any other players because everyone was focused on completing the quest.

And if you’ve completed the prologue, you’ll know the chapter plot is linked to the emperors, so I fully expect the chapter quest at some point to force you to go to the Imperial City, which is also PvP.

If some can tell me that I’m wrong about this I’ll be very relieved, otherwise having pre-ordered the chapter, I’ll be looking for a refund.
  • Epona222
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    It is a PvE instance of a small part of the Imperial Sewers - don't be confused by the name of the place

    You are not put into a PvP area at all.
    Edited by Epona222 on April 1, 2021 6:41PM
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  • Gythral
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    It is a PvE instance of a small part of the Imperial Sewers - don't be confused by the name of the place

    You are not put into a PvP area at all.

    As you can tell by the lack of Telvars :wink:
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  • SshadowSscale
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    you can just use the portal created to go to the new seperate pve instance with no need for any pvp at all
  • josiahva
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    BooHoo? So what? You could say the same of prologue quests forcing you to do PvE. Just don't do the quests, I rarely do any of the quests in the game these days, the writing is so bad an repetitive that I am just not engaged in the story.
  • Sable751
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    It is a PvE instance of a small part of the Imperial Sewers - don't be confused by the name of the place

    You are not put into a PvP area at all.

    Thank you, that's the reassurance I was looking for.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    It is a PvE instance. It only "pretends" to be in same spot as IC sewers. In fact, there is no door that would connect to "real" IC sewers. As far as I can tell similar thing was done to one of the base game main quest:
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Shadow_of_Sancre_Tor

    You travel to Sancre Tor, that is in Cyrodiil (PvP zone) - but instead you are loaded into a small PvE instance that only "pretends" to be in real Cyrodiil.
  • Icy_Waffles
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    Not to comment on my thought on the nature of this post, I will say this.

    It’s a pve part of the sewers. Added parts for the dlc are also going to be pve.

    There *may* be some optional things in cyro... but unlikely and hadn’t been shown.
  • M_Volsung
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    josiahva wrote: »
    BooHoo? So what? You could say the same of prologue quests forcing you to do PvE. Just don't do the quests, I rarely do any of the quests in the game these days, the writing is so bad an repetitive that I am just not engaged in the story.

    Yeah, because when playing PVE you're constantly getting ganked by try-hard NPCs with nothing better to do than grief players that don't want to be there.
    Edited by M_Volsung on April 1, 2021 7:18PM
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  • TequilaFire
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    I was disappointed there wasn't PvP. lol
  • MyKillv2.0
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    I think that it is safe to assume that ESO learned their lesson with Imperial City (the DLC not the dungeon) and will never force people to PvP again for a chapter or even a small quest line.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    It is mindboggling to me how scared some people are to die in a video game.

  • Goregrinder
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    Sable751 wrote: »
    The prologue quest forces you to go into the Imperial Sewers, a PVP zone. Managed to complete that without being challenged by any other players because everyone was focused on completing the quest.

    And if you’ve completed the prologue, you’ll know the chapter plot is linked to the emperors, so I fully expect the chapter quest at some point to force you to go to the Imperial City, which is also PvP.

    If some can tell me that I’m wrong about this I’ll be very relieved, otherwise having pre-ordered the chapter, I’ll be looking for a refund.

    Would be a nice give and take considering all PVPers are forced to PVE, but that's definitely not what is happening with blackwood.
    Edited by Goregrinder on April 1, 2021 9:09PM
  • Ekzorka
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    Sable751 wrote: »
    And if you’ve completed the prologue, you’ll know the chapter plot is linked to the emperors
    So naive...
    All those 2 years of "One-year story" ZoS never remembered a theme that started the story.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I'll bet when the PvPers saw the title of your thread, they did a quick happy dance before they realized you were mistaken. :D
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  • Vevvev
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    . . . really?

    Only way to get into the Imperial City Sewers is via a queue, which should have been the first clue that maybe the zone you're going into is not a PVP zone.
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  • Tandor
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    It is mindboggling to me how scared some people are to die in a video game.

    It's mind-boggling to me that some people think that people who play a MMORPG purely for PvE don't do PvP because they're scared. A lot of PvEers simply don't like PvP, rather like some PvPers don't like PvE.
  • robertthebard
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I'll bet when the PvPers saw the title of your thread, they did a quick happy dance before they realized you were mistaken. :D

    I'll bet the disappointment is why there's so much extra salt in here too. :*
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Tandor wrote: »

    It's mind-boggling to me that some people think that people who play a MMORPG purely for PvE don't do PvP because they're scared. A lot of PvEers simply don't like PvP, rather like some PvPers don't like PvE.

    We aren’t talking about not liking an activity. We are talking about an OP threatening to request a refund based on the mistaken belief that a quest might stray into a PvP zone for a few minutes. I am comfortable with my analysis.
  • ArchMikem
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    Guys. Guys.

    It's the "Imperial Sewers", not THE Imperial Sewers. The Prologue Quest takes you to a PvE zone completely separate from the PvP Sewers. The only thing they share is their name, that's it. There's no PvP in there.
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  • SeaGtGruff
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    [Quoted post was removed]

    [snip]

    I'll bet the disappointment is why there's so much extra salt in here too. :*

    Actually, I enjoy the PvP zones, even if I stink at PvP because I'm too stubborn to git gud at it. I plan to spend a lot of time in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City during the Anniversary event, grinding out those jubilee boxes. :)

    EDIT -- And now I'll probably be hunted down thanks to the huge red "X" I just put on the back of my cuirass! :D

    [Edited to remove Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 2, 2021 12:24PM
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  • Lumsdenml
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I'll bet when the PvPers saw the title of your thread, they did a quick happy dance before they realized you were mistaken. :D

    I did.
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  • Lumsdenml
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    How about we have a year long PVP adventure? How about a little PVP love?
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  • Faded
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    It is mindboggling to me how scared some people are to die in a video game.
    I was on coms once with guildies in IC and one who was handling herself fine literally burst into tears after the second or third fight. It wasn't fear, we weren't losing and weren't going to lose. I think it was the intensity of it. She was getting something opposite of the little rush PVPers enjoy.

    Every time they try to "entice" people who don't PVP into IC I remember that and get a little pissed off. It is a game. Nothing in it is worth feeling that bad for one second.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Faded wrote: »
    I was on coms once with guildies in IC and one who was handling herself fine literally burst into tears after the second or third fight. It wasn't fear, we weren't losing and weren't going to lose. I think it was the intensity of it. She was getting something opposite of the little rush PVPers enjoy.

    Every time they try to "entice" people who don't PVP into IC I remember that and get a little pissed off. It is a game. Nothing in it is worth feeling that bad for one second.

    I pvp'd in WoW and RIFT (in a friend's guild on a pvp server in WoW; casually in RIFT with family). It wasn't fun. It's never going to be fun for me. I have a whole other criterion for fun....

    So it doesn't matter to me what the devs or the players try to do to make it attractive; I'm not ever going there again.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Because it’s an Elder Scrolls PvE game with optional PvP on the side. [snip]
    Ezorus wrote: »
    [Quoted post was removed]

    [Edited to remove Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 2, 2021 12:25PM
  • Vlad9425
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    Because it’s an Elder Scrolls PvE game with optional PvP on the side. [snip]

    It’s an MMO. It’s marketed and balanced around both PvP and PVE. I’d love to know where you’re getting the idea that this is only some kind of PVE game because it really isn’t.
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 2, 2021 12:25PM
  • Ezorus
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    Because it’s an Elder Scrolls PvE game with optional PvP on the side. [snip]

    Like above mentioned it's first and foremost am MMO.. many die hard Elder Scrolls fans dislike ESO cause it's so light on the Elder Scrolls aspect. Why even play an MMO if you don't want to play with people against other people who can challenge you much more than any prescripted AI fight
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 2, 2021 12:26PM
  • shimm
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    Lumsdenml wrote: »
    How about we have a year long PVP adventure? How about a little PVP love?

    I really enjoy Cyrodiil ... it’s really why I play the game all these years later, but... there are probably 1,000 pve’ers for every person that plays pvp.
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    If I suddenly wanted to do PvP again, I'd load some proper PvP game from my cobwebby Steam library and play that.
  • SshadowSscale
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I'll bet when the PvPers saw the title of your thread, they did a quick happy dance before they realized you were mistaken. :D

    I was annoyed that a pve player where complaining about pvp in a new instanced zone wich does not have pvp at all.... always complaining about pvp and blaming pvp in some way or another even though pvp had nothing to do with it even
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