Agreed.phaneub17_ESO wrote: Β»Well yeah, it's the selling point like Warden, Necromancer, Jewelcrafting, etc. At some point probably it'll become DLC content or sold separately in the crown store just like everything else once its over.
I understand the conceptualization just fine, just confirming that was the case.NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: Β»Jewelcrafting is locked behind Summerset, antiquities behind Greymoor etc. So yes, one of the key features of Blackwood requires Blackwood.
What makes you assume I am surprised? It's exactly what I expected. Again, I understand the conceptualization just fine, I simply asked a question to confirm I heard it right. ThanksWhy are you surprised that you need to own the chapter in order to access one of it's main features?
Isn't that how expansion packs have always worked in games? It's certainly how they all work in ESO as you yourself pointed out.
Yeah, same. Not going for it this time, especially when it will be on sale likely a few months after release as they have in the past. The cosmetics items being the big perk of pre-purchase isn't enough to sell me on it.Sylvermynx wrote: Β»Apparently. I'd be buying the chapter eventually, but I refuse to pre purchase it. I'll pick it up on sale somewhere. Though I'm not very interested in companions personally - never have been in any game I've ever played.
If it is this way you will have it in the future for free becausse old chapters always are free
Why are you surprised that you need to own the chapter in order to access one of it's main features?
Isn't that how expansion packs have always worked in games? It's certainly how they all work in ESO as you yourself pointed out.
scorpius2k1 wrote: Β»What makes you assume I am surprised? It's exactly what I expected. Again, I understand the conceptualization just fine, I simply asked a question to confirm I heard it right. ThanksWhy are you surprised that you need to own the chapter in order to access one of it's main features?
Isn't that how expansion packs have always worked in games? It's certainly how they all work in ESO as you yourself pointed out.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: Β»Why are you surprised that you need to own the chapter in order to access one of it's main features?
Isn't that how expansion packs have always worked in games? It's certainly how they all work in ESO as you yourself pointed out.
This. Why would Big Expansion Feature be available without the Big Expansion? In any game, ever?
(my god, the paywalled the Druid & Assasin for Diablo 2 in the Lord Of Destruction expansion!)
scorpius2k1 wrote: Β»What makes you assume I am surprised? It's exactly what I expected. Again, I understand the conceptualization just fine, I simply asked a question to confirm I heard it right. ThanksWhy are you surprised that you need to own the chapter in order to access one of it's main features?
Isn't that how expansion packs have always worked in games? It's certainly how they all work in ESO as you yourself pointed out.
The wording, the italics and the fact that you act like it's necessary to confirm you've understood correctly.
People don't usually think it's necessary to double check in case they've misheard something they expected to hear and consider normal. If you order a Coke and they say "Is Pepsi ok?" you're not going to say "Did I hear that correctly? Are you asking if I'll accept Pepsi instead of Coke?" Unless you're surprised the place doesn't have Coke.
If it is this way you will have it in the future for free becausse old chapters always are free
lmao I didn't even think about that one. Madness.TequilaFire wrote: Β»I feel sorry for people in banks.
Companions, assistants, combat pets, and non combat pets all out at the same time. lol
You mean I have to purchase a game to play it? Did I read that right? I am going to write a strongly worded letter to these capitalist scum! Why just the other day at work my lunch was LOCKED behind a paywall , I had to use my debit card just to eat. The madness I tell you!
You buy the base game for a set price. This is already a huge amount of content. If you want additional features and dlc content, you have to pay extra. What is so weird about it? This is how game expansions work.
JanTanhide wrote: Β»ZOS is a business that people work for to earn a living. Nothing in life is free. Someone has to work to make it happen and those people deserve to be paid for their work.
Haven't bothered with the pre order either, the mount you get for pre ordering is fine I guess but it bugs me we have a system for horse armor and they decided using it is too much hassle for the art department so you can't its helmet off.
But no doubt I'll pick up the dlc release on release day.
You buy the base game for a set price. This is already a huge amount of content. If you want additional features and dlc content, you have to pay extra. What is so weird about it? This is how game expansions work.
That ESO+ craft bag though...spartaxoxo wrote: Β»Which means you don't need to pay for eso+ at all to get access to all the major systems, only the expansions.
Companions was never revealed as a base game feature or free update. Setting aside the observation that ESO should be a free-to-play title given its monetization structure, that's not how they've rolled with these things for multiple years. Of course it's "paywalled." Customers pay for yearly chapters and their main features, even if they already have a subscription because... corporate gymnastics? Let's call it corporate gymnastics.
Better question to ask is in what way is this feature going to be monetized further, if at all. Historically, ZoS has been (mostly) respectful about not monetizing major chapter features. If it weren't for last year's violation of this, I'd consider it a given that we're in the clear for that, but... last year happened.
scorpius2k1 wrote: Β»That ESO+ craft bag though...spartaxoxo wrote: Β»Which means you don't need to pay for eso+ at all to get access to all the major systems, only the expansions.
Exactly this. Glad there is an understanding of the logic here behind why I started this thread in the first place other than the expected monochrome responses. I thought it would be fairly obvious after last year, but I digress. Anyway, I still am not sure what to think of this new system from everything I have gathered thus far. It is definitely unique but not sure it's going to be something I would use regularly and hard to be certain until the chapter is here. Having a "combat pet" like feature available to all toons though with the exception of solo and pvp content will be interesting. A lot of systems involved with them (rapport, personalities, etc) and future companions were confirmed in the reveal, so not at all going to be surprised of them turning up in the crown store just like the housing assistants. I am curious to see where ZOS takes this, could be a big hit or a miss.Companions was never revealed as a base game feature or free update. Setting aside the observation that ESO should be a free-to-play title given its monetization structure, that's not how they've rolled with these things for multiple years. Of course it's "paywalled." Customers pay for yearly chapters and their main features, even if they already have a subscription because... corporate gymnastics? Let's call it corporate gymnastics.
Better question to ask is in what way is this feature going to be monetized further, if at all. Historically, ZoS has been (mostly) respectful about not monetizing major chapter features. If it weren't for last year's violation of this, I'd consider it a given that we're in the clear for that, but... last year happened.