With CP 2.0 why ZOS try to nerf all the grind sources?

Agalloch

We know with CP 2.0 ZOS didn't scaled our xp . Now we must grind until 1800 or 2200 to gain all passives.

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

Why? Why this is intended? There is not enough content to fulfill the CP 3600 CP cap. ..so many people prefer to grind.

Please ZOS don't nerf our few grind spots left in the game. You nerfed xp gained from dungeons and trials ..nerfed Skyreach, now you nerf BRP?

Soon you will nerf Verrant Morass ...and other grind spots with zombies and Imperial.

This way you make us to reach 2800 or 3600 cp in 10-12 YEARS : , maybe more

I hope to let the grind spots untouched ..for us who want tp grind.

Thanks in advance.


English is not my native language.

colossalvoids

Same as brp rumors there are ones about 200%exp for anniversary event which is not looking like they want do decrease anything if true.

The only thing in nbrp method is wrong rn, it's the same issue as at VMA event with hundreds and thousands of same instances going simultaneously which we can feel at every part of the server especially on pceu. The right decision would be more free 150% scrolls, more even exp gains throughout other content and exp events on top to make people occupied and able to grind their whatever number they need currently.

remosito

Agalloch wrote: »

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

I missed that nbrp announcement. got a link?

Xuhora

remosito wrote: »

Agalloch wrote: »

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

I missed that nbrp announcement. got a link?

i think he is referring to my rumors has it discussion, if not, i would love to see the link as well ^^

Agalloch

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/566918/rumor-has-it-xp-in-blackrose-prison#latest

This thread is about BRP nerf.

But I 'm talking about other grind spots that were nerfed....

JerrysKid

When did they nerf skyreach?

Iarao

colossalvoids wrote: »

Same as brp rumors there are ones about 200%exp for anniversary event which is not looking like they want do decrease anything if true.

The only thing in nbrp method is wrong rn, it's the same issue as at VMA event with hundreds and thousands of same instances going simultaneously which we can feel at every part of the server especially on pceu. The right decision would be more free 150% scrolls, more even exp gains throughout other content and exp events on top to make people occupied and able to grind their whatever number they need currently.

there ya have it: sales of xp scrolls. i think it may have to do with how fast the babies now level cuz they gain xp faster than before. and of course zos wants us to keep from pulling away from them so things "level out".

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Free grind spot for everyone on here. I’ve been there mostly alone grinding CP when I need to for years now. When enlightened a CP every 20 minutes is beyond easy.

Go to Deshaan. There is a dolman at the South East corner. Across from the dolman is a farm field with wasps. Surrounding the field on all sides are Renrijia deckhands that drop massive XP and plenty of gold. Just go in a circle around the field. When you do a full lap the deckhands are already back.

There are a lot of great grinding spots in this game outside of Skyreach. I’ve now given you mine. Enjoy.

The_Old_Goat

No where in that thread that you linked did a dev ever say they were nerfing brp, so stop with the rumor mill please.

TequilaFire

We need to stop talking about our favorite grind spots on the forum or they will be nerfed one by one.

Tandor

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

redspecter23

Tandor wrote: »

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

If a player has a certain mindset on how to play the game, it's not for us to decide if it's right or wrong and simply telling them to not be like that isn't an answer either. ZOS recognizes this. Understanding player behavior and working around that behavior is a more reasonable way to influence change.

By saying "I don't grind because I don't see the point so you shouldn't either" won't lead anywhere constructive. The players that do want to grind have a completely different outlook so simply asking them to change that won't work.

Tandor

redspecter23 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

If a player has a certain mindset on how to play the game, it's not for us to decide if it's right or wrong and simply telling them to not be like that isn't an answer either. ZOS recognizes this. Understanding player behavior and working around that behavior is a more reasonable way to influence change.

By saying "I don't grind because I don't see the point so you shouldn't either" won't lead anywhere constructive. The players that do want to grind have a completely different outlook so simply asking them to change that won't work.

I'm not telling others how to play the game, merely pointing out that if they played it in a different way the problem they constantly complain about wouldn't arise.

Ackwalan

ZOS tracks a lot of data. When a spot reaches the top, it gets brought down. This is nothing new.

ClawOfTheTwoMoons

Why not just make more spots good for grinding exp? Or better yet, how about making quests give more xp. That way people aren't grinding mobs endlessly.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

colossalvoids wrote: »

Same as brp rumors there are ones about 200%exp for anniversary event which is not looking like they want do decrease anything if true.

The only thing in nbrp method is wrong rn, it's the same issue as at VMA event with hundreds and thousands of same instances going simultaneously which we can feel at every part of the server especially on pceu. The right decision would be more free 150% scrolls, more even exp gains throughout other content and exp events on top to make people occupied and able to grind their whatever number they need currently.

I would like them to release 2 hr. Enlightenment Scrolls. Right now I can burn through my daily enlightenment in about 5 minutes.

Ishtarknows

Tandor wrote: »

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

I'm obsessed (in your terms) of trying to undo the nerfs that zos did to my damage output and survivability with this patch. Why should I go backwards several steps just to fulfill your way of looking at playing?

trackdemon5512

Agalloch wrote: »

We know with CP 2.0 ZOS didn't scaled our xp . Now we must grind until 1800 or 2200 to gain all passives.

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

Why? Why this is intended? There is not enough content to fulfill the CP 3600 CP cap. ..so many people prefer to grind.

Please ZOS don't nerf our few grind spots left in the game. You nerfed xp gained from dungeons and trials ..nerfed Skyreach, now you nerf BRP?

Soon you will nerf Verrant Morass ...and other grind spots with zombies and Imperial.

This way you make us to reach 2800 or 3600 cp in 10-12 YEARS : , maybe more

I hope to let the grind spots untouched ..for us who want tp grind.

Thanks in advance.


English is not my native language.

CP 1350 or so is all passives. 1800 is just the icing on top.

Slyclone

I'm in no hurry to finish this game. I just want to live the role until real life ceases.

IrishOphidia

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Agalloch wrote: »

We know with CP 2.0 ZOS didn't scaled our xp . Now we must grind until 1800 or 2200 to gain all passives.

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

Why? Why this is intended? There is not enough content to fulfill the CP 3600 CP cap. ..so many people prefer to grind.

Please ZOS don't nerf our few grind spots left in the game. You nerfed xp gained from dungeons and trials ..nerfed Skyreach, now you nerf BRP?

Soon you will nerf Verrant Morass ...and other grind spots with zombies and Imperial.

This way you make us to reach 2800 or 3600 cp in 10-12 YEARS : , maybe more

I hope to let the grind spots untouched ..for us who want tp grind.

Thanks in advance.


English is not my native language.

CP 1350 or so is all passives. 1800 is just the icing on top.

Show math for that

trackdemon5512

IrishOphidia wrote: »

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Agalloch wrote: »

We know with CP 2.0 ZOS didn't scaled our xp . Now we must grind until 1800 or 2200 to gain all passives.

Something terrible is happening anyway...ZOS intend to nerf all the grind spots ( now we heard BRP nerf is coming) of the game.

Why? Why this is intended? There is not enough content to fulfill the CP 3600 CP cap. ..so many people prefer to grind.

Please ZOS don't nerf our few grind spots left in the game. You nerfed xp gained from dungeons and trials ..nerfed Skyreach, now you nerf BRP?

Soon you will nerf Verrant Morass ...and other grind spots with zombies and Imperial.

This way you make us to reach 2800 or 3600 cp in 10-12 YEARS : , maybe more

I hope to let the grind spots untouched ..for us who want tp grind.

Thanks in advance.


English is not my native language.

CP 1350 or so is all passives. 1800 is just the icing on top.

Show math for that

Count the nodes and what you need to put in.

robertthebard

redspecter23 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

If a player has a certain mindset on how to play the game, it's not for us to decide if it's right or wrong and simply telling them to not be like that isn't an answer either. ZOS recognizes this. Understanding player behavior and working around that behavior is a more reasonable way to influence change.

By saying "I don't grind because I don't see the point so you shouldn't either" won't lead anywhere constructive. The players that do want to grind have a completely different outlook so simply asking them to change that won't work.

Which they have done. Grind all you like, you're going to get there faster than someone that just plays. Just remember, once you're done grinding, that when you come to the forums to complain that there's no point, you brought that on yourself. Of course, that won't happen either, because it's always on someone else...

BeefcakeManwich

Personally I get bored of grinding pretty fast. Why all the hate. OP was saying this is what they enjoy doing and why is zos trying to change it. They are not asking zos to nerf what u enjoy doing to balance it out. And for ppl who say u will get burnt out. So what? There's a lot of other ways to get burnt out with this game. Let the man have what he likes. It ain't hurting no one. So tin foil hat theory is xp scrolls from crown store. I wouldn't put it past them. Crown store is their cash cow. Facts.

robertthebard

BeefcakeManwich wrote: »

Personally I get bored of grinding pretty fast. Why all the hate. OP was saying this is what they enjoy doing and why is zos trying to change it. They are not asking zos to nerf what u enjoy doing to balance it out. And for ppl who say u will get burnt out. So what? There's a lot of other ways to get burnt out with this game. Let the man have what he likes. It ain't hurting no one. So tin foil hat theory is xp scrolls from crown store. I wouldn't put it past them. Crown store is their cash cow. Facts.

The thing is, I'm thinking I have about 57 of these scrolls, with assorted names, sitting in chests in my houses. They give them away like candy on daily log ins, and I haven't had a need to use them ever. So, if I decided I did need to start using them, I have the means to make a lot of progress, since I would only have to use them on one capped toon. If it's a monetization scheme, it's a very poor one.

Nevasca

I will never this obsession with max CP or 1800/2200. You're gaining 1-2k dps at best and your time investment is huge. Most people complaining aren't in any scorepushing guilds either. Why do you care about such a neglible increase in DPS? If you're >1000CP, which most vets were. you literally don't need to bother.

And if ZOS nerfs BRP it doesn't matter, there's plenty of other grind spots. If you really want to grind your soul out for extra CP stay awake for a few nights and grind Skyreach, it's literally 5x the XP from nBRP runs.

ThorianB

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Why not just make more spots good for grinding exp? Or better yet, how about making quests give more xp. That way people aren't grinding mobs endlessly.

Some quests do need to have the XP increased quite a bit. Mostly the story and side quests. You spend 20 minutes doing one story quest in multiple locations and get some green junk loot and get about the same XP as doing 6 daily writs, if you are really lucky. I can do markarth dailies as fast as i can do one storyline or side quest section and get 3-5 times the XP and far better loot.

AlnilamE

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Why not just make more spots good for grinding exp? Or better yet, how about making quests give more xp. That way people aren't grinding mobs endlessly.

Because this is not Black Desert Online, and the zones in ESO are designed with questing in mind, not grinding.

Grinding is an entirely player-driven activity in this game.

The devs would be happy if nobody went grinding ever.

BeefcakeManwich

I came over from bdo. So I can relate to ppl and their xp grind. Speaking for myself. I did like the grind back then. Not so much when another player would come by and faceroll me and take over my spot. It was a weird gratifying feeling to be able to rhythmically hit ur combos similar to a rotation. I kinda still do something like that now. I would get stoned and run a loop farming nodes in craglorn. I definitely am not doing it for the resources or gold. I think it's more the gratification of finding a nirncrux. Maybe that's what it's like when ppl gain a cp or seeing big numbers on a trial dummy.

bdyid

well if i'm not wrong, you can achieve CP3600 in about 500hours with atleast 250%exp boost.

Kidgangster101

Tandor wrote: »

If people weren't so obsessed with the need to reach a level cap by yesterday rather than playing the game for the longer term then they wouldn't feel the need to grind the whole time. If all they do is grind in order to reach the cap with the existing content then when developers add more content either they have to increase the cap and start the grind all over again or those players will complain that there's no point in playing the new content because they're already at the cap and it's all too easy.

If the community weren't such elitists "oh your not max cp you are trash and can't join us" then maybe people wouldn't be so stressed about reaching max?

Happens in all games not just this one.

ZaroktheImmortal

AlnilamE wrote: »

ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »

Why not just make more spots good for grinding exp? Or better yet, how about making quests give more xp. That way people aren't grinding mobs endlessly.

Because this is not Black Desert Online, and the zones in ESO are designed with questing in mind, not grinding.

Grinding is an entirely player-driven activity in this game.

The devs would be happy if nobody went grinding ever.

I think they want us to grind I mean they make everything from gearing to gaining levels to be a grind.