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Snipe + Sneak no longer stunning any enemy?

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Adam_Chattaway
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is this a nerf or something? i've tried it on mobs and in pvp but attacking with my bow from stealth no longer stuns enemy?
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  • Qbiken
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    Good :)
  • dinokstrunz
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    it's a nice change, I fully support it.
  • Adam_Chattaway
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.
    Edited by Adam_Chattaway on March 19, 2021 4:07PM
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  • dinokstrunz
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.

    Have you played the Might & Magic series? Bow is useless in that game so that statement isn't correct. Not sure that makes us woke.
  • Kartalin
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    Surprise Attack stuns if you flank your target, have you tried that?
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    Surprise Attack stuns if you flank your target, have you tried that?

    How does that help me as bow/bow? or ranged in general? Snipe now does weak damage, so it hits doesn't stun, enemy is not affected by it's *** tap light damage then they just easily out heal it like it's nothing...
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  • Larcomar
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    See the bug forums. Zos haven't said anythign ive seen but everyone assumes a bug because they havent changed the passives which extend the stun from sneak
  • Adam_Chattaway
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    Larcomar wrote: »
    See the bug forums. Zos haven't said anythign ive seen but everyone assumes a bug because they havent changed the passives which extend the stun from sneak

    That's a pretty big F up in terms of bugs but then again... as the god T O Double D Howard says:

    It just works...
    Edited by Adam_Chattaway on March 19, 2021 4:39PM
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  • orion_1981usub17_ESO
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    Magicka classes are slotting radiant magelight to prevent stuns from sneak for themselves and all party members in 12 m radius. So no one's getting snipe stunned near those who don't want to be sniped stunned.
  • Vevvev
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    I dueled someone after the patch came out and deliberately let them sneak attack me with a bow and the stun seems to be just gone. I run Inner Light not Radiant Magelight so it couldn't have been that. I'm guessing it's a bug because I don't even think the sneak attack bonus applied to the attack.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Either "stealth" nerf, or a bug, since nothing like this was mentioned on patch notes.

    Also, LT & HT from stealth do not seem to stun enemies.
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on March 19, 2021 8:26PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    [Quoted post has been removed.]
    Tbh. I say it to every Mag Sorc that streak away when low on health / magicka / stamina / shields or whatever... :D

    Besides, even game itself says it, during loading screens:
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Loading_Screens_(Online)
    "Fleeing is a perfectly valid tactic if you wander into a tough situation. Find or craft better gear, use Skill Points, or level up a bit more, then come back to fight another day."
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on March 19, 2021 9:28PM
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  • Sahidom
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    The target may have had Radiant Magelight slotted which prevents the stun from sneak attacks.

    https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/radiant-magelight
    Edited by Sahidom on March 19, 2021 9:45PM
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Sahidom wrote: »
    The target may have had Radiant Magelight slotted which prevents the stun from sneak attacks.

    https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/radiant-magelight

    I doubt that any NPC had it slotted.
  • orion_1981usub17_ESO
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    Maybe if the OP could post some video of this bug so we can understand better.
  • Dunning_Kruger
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.

    Imagine saying good in response to removing low skill low effort and over rewarding gameplay and all you can say is “soo woke”. My effect permeates.
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  • goldenarcher1
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    is this a nerf or something? i've tried it on mobs and in pvp but attacking with my bow from stealth no longer stuns enemy?

    For pvp, snipe has been nerfed into the ground,especially with the no-stun from sneak bug which came with update 29.

    Still useable in pve with the Vateshran bow.
  • Sahidom
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    Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »
    Sahidom wrote: »
    The target may have had Radiant Magelight slotted which prevents the stun from sneak attacks.

    https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/radiant-magelight

    I doubt that any NPC had it slotted.

    Now your treading into ZOS world. The combat mechanics rules are different in player versus monsters scenarios. Ask any Dragonknight why Fossilize is often greyed out, or the Sorcerers Rune Prison being greyed out too. These skills, similar to stuns, are "on hold" when the target is under CC immunity.
    Edited by Sahidom on March 20, 2021 7:51AM
  • Scardan
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.

    Bow is actually buffed. Snipe is better to weave with = DPS increase. I assume, you speak about PvE because you mention that bow is staple DPS weapon in other rpg games.
    If you speak about PvP, not sure that damage per second is important there, because I am not "pvping" much and when I do, I build for burst damage.
    dinokstrunz wrote: »
    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.

    Have you played the Might & Magic series? Bow is useless in that game so that statement isn't correct. Not sure that makes us woke.
    Actually, in Dark Messiah of Might and Magic bow is good weapon. xD

    Let's be extremely precise in our use of terms.
  • WildRaptorX
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    Bow is just terrible now. The animations are bugged, clunky and look awful.
  • relentless_turnip
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Good :)

    Good? so make bow nerfed to the point it's now the most useless and utterly pointless skill line and weapon in the game when its a staple big dps weapon of Any RPG game in history and you say GOOD with a smiley face? fml... you guys are soo woke.

    Good 😁
  • oscarovegren
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    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

    [snip]

    [Edited to remove Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 20, 2021 3:43PM
  • Adam_Chattaway
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    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

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    Tell me how does a bow deal with a melee DPS or spell DPS that can lcose the gap and gank them in a second or spam roll all their bow attacks? Bow skill line is boring asf and has no burse now but has all the vulnerability of a medium armoured ranged class. this is not world of warcraft you can't perma daze and slow people from 40m range
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 20, 2021 3:43PM
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  • oscarovegren
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

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    Tell me how does a bow deal with a melee DPS or spell DPS that can lcose the gap and gank them in a second or spam roll all their bow attacks? Bow skill line is boring asf and has no burse now but has all the vulnerability of a medium armoured ranged class. this is not world of warcraft you can't perma daze and slow people from 40m range

    We are talking about offensive capacity here, not defensive (snipe is the topic and it´s used offensively)
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    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

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    Tell me how does a bow deal with a melee DPS or spell DPS that can lcose the gap and gank them in a second or spam roll all their bow attacks? Bow skill line is boring asf and has no burse now but has all the vulnerability of a medium armoured ranged class. this is not world of warcraft you can't perma daze and slow people from 40m range

    We are talking about offensive capacity here, not defensive (snipe is the topic and it´s used offensively)

    Nerf Snipe from an hard hitting ambush attack and then the topic becomes defensive because soon as that weak asf snipe hits you, they do 2-3 rolls towards you then bend you over and kill you.
    Edited by Adam_Chattaway on March 20, 2021 5:17PM
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  • Joy_Division
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    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

    [snip]

    Tell me how does a bow deal with a melee DPS or spell DPS that can lcose the gap and gank them in a second or spam roll all their bow attacks? Bow skill line is boring asf and has no burse now but has all the vulnerability of a medium armoured ranged class. this is not world of warcraft you can't perma daze and slow people from 40m range

    Just like every other weapon; use your abilities (which work perfectly fine at point blank range), slot some defensive skills, and prepare to dodge, block, LOS, heal, just like every other weapon user must.
  • Adam_Chattaway
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    Joy_Division wrote: »
    Adam_Chattaway wrote: »
    oscarovegren wrote: »
    Bow is balanced now. The [snip] snipe desync from stealth playstyle had no counterplay. Your characters freeze and was died 2 secconds later by 4 snipes from 28m. How is that good PvP?

    [snip]

    Tell me how does a bow deal with a melee DPS or spell DPS that can lcose the gap and gank them in a second or spam roll all their bow attacks? Bow skill line is boring asf and has no burse now but has all the vulnerability of a medium armoured ranged class. this is not world of warcraft you can't perma daze and slow people from 40m range

    Just like every other weapon; use your abilities (which work perfectly fine at point blank range), slot some defensive skills, and prepare to dodge, block, LOS, heal, just like every other weapon user must.

    Wait are you trying to compare BOW in Melee to Dual Wield or 2H?
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  • orion_1981usub17_ESO
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    Did we lose weapon swapping? If you're bow/bow you're gonna have it harder than the typical bow/2H. They can pew pew and swing away. Or did you crutch so hard on desyncs that you never learned to actually fight in melee?
  • SshadowSscale
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    What I find more impressive is that snipe has 600 more damage on its tooltip than poision skulls and still has a 0. 8 cast time yet I have seen people still complain about snipe lol
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