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The game just got much worse
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SeaArcanist✭✭✭honestly if ZOS really wanted to fix pvp, they would only restrict the controversal sets. seeing as how they DONT want to do that. there is a much deeper meaning behind their intentions.0 -
WolfyRaps✭✭✭✭SeaArcanist wrote: »honestly if ZOS really wanted to fix pvp, they would only restrict the controversal sets. seeing as how they DONT want to do that. there is a much deeper meaning behind their intentions.
Like kill their own cash cow ? I think for many people the PVE is not enough to keep them in the game.. Anyway if they continue to show crass incompetence they will see their numbers drop and maybe then they will wake up..0 -
jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
✭PvP is not the only aspect of this game. Many changes have been made to the detriment of PvE players over the years as a direct result of complaints in PvP; the current no-proc test is entirely due to player feedback regarding PvP as well. ZOS does clearly listen to concerns in PvP, far more so than the flip side of the game, despite it making up a relatively small portion of the population compared to PvE players, and I'm not sure how you are unable to see that. The entire reason there aren't any worthwhile competitors for that style of PvP gameplay is precisely because ZOS invests such an absurd amount of effort, budget, and balance changes into PvP, often at the expense of the rest of the game. Please just be happy that you are their golden child, you already draw so much attention from them that is desperately needed to address other areas.
This, amazing how so many people forget pve is a thing. And proc sets literally made certain builds in pvp unkillable. Thus something had to be done less you wanted everyone god mode. Think back how many "x op pls nerf" threads popped up here?IGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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Ittrix✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »What they didn't tell me is that they had a hidden agenda that they were going to spring on us out of the blue, before the test period was even over. If they had told me ahead of time that they were planning to deny me access to 95% of the gear I have worked so hard and spent so much to get for at least half a year, I would never have taken part in the "test."
Welcome to MMOs. Either due to "balance" patches, expansions that change the mechanics, or other things; they regularly "mess up" people's carefully theorycrafted builds and make them go back to the drawing board.
I've been seeing this happen, in multiple games, for over 15 years. It's part of the genre. Be happy you're playing ESO, so each expansion doesn't up the level cap and entirely invalidate 100% of the gear you collected in the 1-2 years since the last level cap increase.
Ah yes, be happy that I got stabbed by a knife instead of a sword.
MMOs don't have to bork veteran players over regularly. It's nowhere in the definition. People played this one because while they made some oopses here and there they largely didn't make us refarm gear or re-level all our people. Now they did, and people are annoyed. I'm not shocked either.Edited by Ittrix on March 10, 2021 6:30PM3 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Today in Cyro I played my magsorc (half the players in no proc Cyro are sorcerers) and got my Kill 40 done in three minutes. I also played my 55k HP and 6k HP regen werewolf and ran around kiting and trolling 10 players until I got tired of it and went back in the keep. And this is all with "no proc" sets. And it's boring as hell!
I've spent hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours farming different sets that I could theorycraft with. The most fun for me is testing out different combinations of gear, and coming up with builds that others don't run. The best part of it is when people whisper me asking about my builds. But I sucked it up and played along with the test because ZOS told me they needed data to see how procs affected the performance. And nobody would be happier than me if they use the data to make the game run smoother for everyone.
What they didn't tell me is that they had a hidden agenda that they were going to spring on us out of the blue, before the test period was even over. If they had told me ahead of time that they were planning to deny me access to 95% of the gear I have worked so hard and spent so much to get for at least half a year, I would never have taken part in the "test."
My Cyro playing time had dropped off during the test, and there's honestly no reason for me to increase it now. I'll probably do the minimum necessary to get my daily rucksack, and then log off. What's most disappointing to me is that there are no real alternatives, and ZOS knows it. [snip]
[edited to trolling and baiting]
Isn't this what PvP players have wanted for years now? No proc sets? I could swear that every time over the last five years I read a PvP thread that someone was complaining about dying to a proc from Sloads, or Caluurion,or Zaan, or Viper, etc etc etc, calling for endless nerfs to proc sets...and now that the proc sets are gone its boring? Make up your mind.
At this point I could care less what changes ZoS makes to either PvP or PvE, I just adapt to whatever changes they make now, no point in getting upset about it, they never listen when people do get upset anyway.1 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about putting them back (proc sets) but just nerfing the ridiculous ones down! (Crimson/Leeching/etc)...it's mostly these healing sets pissing a large majority off from what I gather. They know which sets are overpowered...they know where these breaks in the chains are...so come oooooon...
OP says large amount of the player base are Magicka Sorcerers and Nightblades in PvP at the moment. It's like stepping back 4 years in time.
Problem with this game is that it's like politics...it's up and down...up and down...Just calm down ZOS and give us something quality that we can enjoy all together
Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on March 10, 2021 7:13PM0 -
WolfyRaps✭✭✭✭"Today in Cyro I played my magsorc (half the players in no proc Cyro are sorcerers) and got my Kill 40 done in three minutes. I also played my 55k HP and 6k HP regen werewolf and ran around kiting and trolling 10 players until I got tired of it and went back in the keep. And this is all with "no proc" sets. And it's boring as hell!
I've spent hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours farming different sets that I could theorycraft with. The most fun for me is testing out different combinations of gear, and coming up with builds that others don't run. The best part of it is when people whisper me asking about my builds. But I sucked it up and played along with the test because ZOS told me they needed data to see how procs affected the performance. And nobody would be happier than me if they use the data to make the game run smoother for everyone.
What they didn't tell me is that they had a hidden agenda that they were going to spring on us out of the blue, before the test period was even over. If they had told me ahead of time that they were planning to deny me access to 95% of the gear I have worked so hard and spent so much to get for at least half a year, I would never have taken part in the "test."
My Cyro playing time had dropped off during the test, and there's honestly no reason for me to increase it now. I'll probably do the minimum necessary to get my daily rucksack, and then log off. What's most disappointing to me is that there are no real alternatives, and ZOS knows it. [snip]
[edited to trolling and baiting]
Isn't this what PvP players have wanted for years now? No proc sets? I could swear that every time over the last five years I read a PvP thread that someone was complaining about dying to a proc from Sloads, or Caluurion,or Zaan, or Viper, etc etc etc, calling for endless nerfs to proc sets...and now that the proc sets are gone its boring? Make up your mind.
At this point I could care less what changes ZoS makes to either PvP or PvE, I just adapt to whatever changes they make now, no point in getting upset about it, they never listen when people do get upset anyway.
It certainly wasn't one of those. I was quite happy about the state of the game and activly recruting friends to play it. I leveled 12 different specs and I was happy to have pvp viable builds on all of them with my 50+ golden sets that I have in the bank.
I was the perfect quiet veteran player. Just made my first post on the forum after this joke of a "test" ..2