Heavy Attack builds in CP 2.0

Firstmep

Looking back now the change to make empower affect heavy attacks as well was likely made with the new cp in mind.

Draxund

Mindcr0w wrote: »

Alright chaps.

After some extremely quick and dirty testing with two slightly different gear setups on my Sorc 2 pet HA build I am happy to report that HA builds not only aren't "fried", but in some cases may have actually lost less than other builds.

Now I call these initial tests quick and dirty for several reasons:

1.) Parsing in the days right after a major patch is always a bit off due to server issues.
2.) I did not parse with each setup repeatedly to get a "perfect parse". I just went in did a quick one and done with each to get a feel for things and called it a day.
3.) Certain things on my character were not yet optimized for the current patch. For example I am still in only 5 pieces of light armor.

So keeping all these things in mind it should be possible to squeeze at least a few k more dps out under better circumstances.

Ok, so I tested with my two favorite pre-patch gear setups:

1) Zaan+Medusa+Infall for mobile fights.

2) Zaan + Medusa + Siroria for fights where Siroria is usable.

My pre-patch best ever parse with Setup 1 was 93k. Post patch I hit 87k. A drop of only 6.5%. I believe this to be a significantly lower drop than what most players are reporting, which I believe to be in the 10-20% range on average. (Someone correct me if I am wrong here)

My best pre-patch with Setup 2 was 101k. Post patch I hit 90k. A 10.9% drop which is more in line with the average drop, but still somewhat on the lower side.

Now obviously the stronger setup lost more and is closer to the weaker setup than it used to be. This could be due to several things. Siroria being a very spell damage heavy set is being hit very hard by the diminishing returns caused by our higher spell damage pools. Higher end builds may have been hit harder than more mid tier builds. Or a combination of the two.

Either way, all things considered I'd say HA builds can maintain their niche in this strange new CP 2.0 world as long as we are willing to adapt.

@Mindcr0w This was very helpful info! Now that we've spent some more time in CP 2.0, are you finding similar results? More importantly, can you share more details about your HA build with Infallible? I've been wanting to utilize an HA build for various reasons, but this recent update had me scared it was a thing of the past.

Rebiludo

93k with Infaillible + Medusa + Zaan ? My best pre-parse was 84k (Magsorc). What rotation ?

Suna_Ye_Sunnabe

Mindcr0w wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

If that's intended behavior, you're right -- the whole build concept is fried.

Alright chaps.

After some extremely quick and dirty testing with two slightly different gear setups on my Sorc 2 pet HA build I am happy to report that HA builds not only aren't "fried", but in some cases may have actually lost less than other builds.

Now I call these initial tests quick and dirty for several reasons:

1.) Parsing in the days right after a major patch is always a bit off due to server issues.
2.) I did not parse with each setup repeatedly to get a "perfect parse". I just went in did a quick one and done with each to get a feel for things and called it a day.
3.) Certain things on my character were not yet optimized for the current patch. For example I am still in only 5 pieces of light armor.

So keeping all these things in mind it should be possible to squeeze at least a few k more dps out under better circumstances.

Ok, so I tested with my two favorite pre-patch gear setups:

1) Zaan+Medusa+Infall for mobile fights.

2) Zaan + Medusa + Siroria for fights where Siroria is usable.

My pre-patch best ever parse with Setup 1 was 93k. Post patch I hit 87k. A drop of only 6.5%. I believe this to be a significantly lower drop than what most players are reporting, which I believe to be in the 10-20% range on average. (Someone correct me if I am wrong here)

My best pre-patch with Setup 2 was 101k. Post patch I hit 90k. A 10.9% drop which is more in line with the average drop, but still somewhat on the lower side.

Now obviously the stronger setup lost more and is closer to the weaker setup than it used to be. This could be due to several things. Siroria being a very spell damage heavy set is being hit very hard by the diminishing returns caused by our higher spell damage pools. Higher end builds may have been hit harder than more mid tier builds. Or a combination of the two.

Either way, all things considered I'd say HA builds can maintain their niche in this strange new CP 2.0 world as long as we are willing to adapt.

Would you mind sharing your rotation?

YandereGirlfriend

Just as I thought, the Light/Heavy attack star is coming back in Blackwood.

FrancisCrawford

So in Update 30 they're adding CP buffs for basic attack back in. Presumably heavy attack builds will benefit.

Rebiludo

Any source link? : D

gariondavey

They are coming out with a cp to increase la ha damage in u30

FrancisCrawford

Rebiludo wrote: »

Any source link? : D

Check the latest Brian Wheeler combat update sticky.

Rebiludo

Yes. TY. I'm happy